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Deadlock Clock: Dec 10th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#101: Dec 12th 2012 at 2:15:59 PM

No response, so I made a crowner. Calling for a hook.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#102: Dec 14th 2012 at 6:45:26 AM

Hooked.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#103: Dec 16th 2012 at 2:37:55 AM

Bump for more votes

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#104: Dec 28th 2012 at 3:04:57 PM

Looks like we're getting close to a decision here, but a few more votes would definitely help.

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Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#105: Dec 29th 2012 at 10:01:19 PM

The leader of the moment bothers me because 'weirdness' is subjective, and broad enough to probably cover most Urban Fantasies. Planet Anything Goes is much clearer on that.

edited 29th Dec '12 10:01:38 PM by Noaqiyeum

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#106: Dec 30th 2012 at 12:40:09 AM

Hey, they're both my suggestions; I have a hard time complaining if either wins. :)

But I do kind of see your point.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#107: Dec 30th 2012 at 5:23:41 AM

There seems to be a huge contingent of tropers who thing that alliteration always makes everything better. It's rather odd.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#108: Dec 30th 2012 at 5:26:00 AM

We have 4 names with consensus ATM. Personally, I like World of Weirdness because it's the most straightforward.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#109: Dec 30th 2012 at 6:22:39 AM

[up]I really don't see how it's straightforward. "Absurd" and "Anything goes" at least have fairly clear definitions (of which "anything goes" is closer to what we're going for here; "absurdity" usually involves deliberate craziness in order to mess with the reader's mind). "Weird" can mean unusual, abnormal, surreal, uncanny, magical, creepy, or just out-of-the-ordinary. Most fictional settings are "weird" on some level.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#110: Dec 30th 2012 at 6:36:17 AM

World OF Weirdness, not Weird World. Also, "Anything Goes" can be something like Eternal Sexual Freedom.

World Of Absurdity would be close to Bizarro Episode.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#111: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:53:07 AM

[up]Yeah, those are legitimate criticisms. I really don't think we've come up with a good one.

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#112: Dec 30th 2012 at 11:09:42 AM

We have 4 names with consensus ATM.
4 names with consensus

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#113: Dec 31st 2012 at 12:03:15 PM

Well, fortunately, we're actually down to two now. So we just need enough more votes to resolve which of the two to use. If all else fails, we could have a run-off, but I'm hoping that won't be required.

I do think people are being a little too paranoid about the potential for misunderstanding here. English has a lot of inherent ambiguity, due to words with multiple meanings and whatnot, and some people will misinterpret just about any name. I agree that World of Weirdness might be a little too ambiguous (even though it was my suggestion), but Planet Anything Goes seems clear enough to me. Anyone who would assume that means Free Sex Future is probably going to be misusing so many other tropes that they should be called in for a little chat with the mods. :)

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RoninCatholic Petting Zoo Person Since: Dec, 2010
Petting Zoo Person
#114: Dec 31st 2012 at 5:09:09 PM

I don't like any of these names with "planet" in the title. Does that sound wrong and arbitrary?

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#115: Dec 31st 2012 at 7:35:55 PM

Well, not entirely. I could see Planet Anything Goes being used for social-anarchist paradises like New Hong Kong, but those are infrequent enough that I wouldn't expect much confusion.

That said, World Anything Goes would be acceptable but I don't think it flows quite as well.

Here's a compromise suggestion: World Of Whatever?

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#116: Dec 31st 2012 at 7:50:46 PM

World Of Whatever sounds like a planet where apathy is their hat.

Anyway, I think our problem is too many good choices. I don't see how adding more will fix that. I've actually already voted down choices I think are good simply to help push this towards a resolution, but it hasn't helped.

(Personally, I still think Unconstrained Absurdity is one of the best choices, but that seems to have sunk to the bottom, for whatever reason.)

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#117: Jan 1st 2013 at 1:37:06 AM

I think people believe this is a setting trope. I would not mind using a runoff crowner for this.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#118: Jan 1st 2013 at 2:03:50 AM

I think people believe this is a setting trope.

Are you saying it isn't?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119: Jan 1st 2013 at 2:08:49 AM

No. Don't read that much into it. That is why they don't use Unconstrained Absurdity.

edited 1st Jan '13 2:09:18 AM by SeptimusHeap

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RoninCatholic Petting Zoo Person Since: Dec, 2010
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#120: Jan 1st 2013 at 2:23:40 PM

To me, all the ones with "planet" in them immediately make me think it has something to do with space travel, whereas "world" does not carry the same connotations by virtue of being vaguer (as it could refer to the setting as a whole, a literal planet, a dimension, or the like).

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#121: Jan 9th 2013 at 1:48:50 PM

Bump for more votes. We really need to resolve this at some point...

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#122: Jan 9th 2013 at 1:50:16 PM

Do we need a runoff crowner?

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#123: Jan 23rd 2013 at 12:03:20 PM

I think first place is looking pretty solid, though we might want to consider using some of the runners-up as redirects.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#124: Jan 23rd 2013 at 12:05:07 PM

Eh, when I do a rename, I usually turn the runners-up in green into redirects unless they are bad.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#125: Jan 25th 2013 at 6:24:32 AM

Have we swapped in the new description?

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Crown Description:

Here are the short definitions that tropers proposed in this thread for Planet Eris.

To get an idea of where we should be going with Planet Eris, please vote for the ones you like, and against the ones you disagree with. These options should not be considered mutually exclusive.

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