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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#1: Mar 5th 2012 at 9:28:27 AM

0 wicks, 0 inbounds, and a really odd and unclear description. What to do? I'd say cut it, but it seems similar to a trope I wanted to YKTTW called "Disposable Dragon", which means that the Big Bad will ditch, demote or kill his dragon when he finds someone he likes more or when he gets the thing he's looking for (be it Artifact of Doom or Sealed Evil in a Can).

What do you think?

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#2: Mar 5th 2012 at 9:40:03 AM

Fixed the tag. (You need to enter the article as a Wiki Word when you make the thread.)

This trope is when the bad guy kills off his second-in-command because the second-in-command is too evil and starting to make the boss nervous. This might be tropable, but by the look of it, it needs more incubation in YKTTW, and I'd say a better title as well.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#3: Mar 5th 2012 at 9:44:10 AM

The lack of wicks and inbounds is the fault of whoever launched it. The person never wicked or or indexed it. However, I see enough examples of the main page to meet the minimum requirements for a trope.

I say crosswick it and put it on an index and call it done.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#4: Mar 5th 2012 at 10:06:09 AM

I'd say the description could us a bit of help, too. But it does seem to be a valid trope, just one that was mishandled on launch.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#5: Mar 5th 2012 at 3:37:00 PM

I think the name is a Bad Snowclone.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#6: Mar 5th 2012 at 3:57:07 PM

I don't think we'd loose anything by a rename. I'm wondering how anyone even managed to find the trope to start a TRS thread about it.

Anyone have ideas for a better name?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Mar 5th 2012 at 10:55:11 PM

Name is definitely a bad snowclone. I thought it was about actual dragons at first.

Perhaps something about problematic underlings? I really really don't want to name it in such a way that you have to get another trope before getting the title.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#8: Mar 6th 2012 at 8:09:59 PM

I recognize the snowclone relation to Shoot the Dog. Bad Snowclone indeed ... but related to You Have Outlived Your Usefulness, I presume?

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Mar 6th 2012 at 8:56:31 PM

Yes, but more like the boss is upset that they're too high on the villain threat-o meter and may usurp them.

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TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Mar 13th 2012 at 3:58:34 PM

hmm... Lose the Loose Cannon?

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Mar 24th 2012 at 5:53:23 AM

Crowner soldered to thread.

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#13: Mar 24th 2012 at 5:54:30 AM

Three years around and still o wicks or inbounds. Rename this FAAST.

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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#14: Mar 24th 2012 at 7:15:32 AM

[up] times 8 By mashing the random button in hopes that I find a trope that applies to Warrior Cats, which I am trying to get onto Trope Overdosed.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Mar 24th 2012 at 10:46:48 AM

Obviously there'd be no harm in a rename, but how would it help? "Shoot The Dragon" seems to accurately describe the trope.

Can we at least get a couple new name suggestions first (and, ideally, an argument for why they would actually improve the use of this page)

edited 24th Mar '12 10:47:38 AM by abk0100

ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#16: Mar 24th 2012 at 4:45:07 PM

I agree with the 'bad snowclone' crowd. "Shoot the Dog" refers to good guys doing morally ambigious things that need doing. Why would a Big Bad worry about ambiguity for any reason other than being an Anti-Villain with standards? If we want to include more reasons than that I say rename to one of the proposed names 'Disposable Dragon' which refers to the Big Bad's willingness to kill their second in command or 'Lose the Loose Cannon' which is Exactly What Is Says On The Tin and is supported by the description refering to the offed character as 'pyscho'.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#17: Mar 24th 2012 at 4:48:45 PM

"Lose The Loose Cannon" could just as easily be about the scene in every cop movie where the protagonist has to turn in their badge and gun for taking things too far.

pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Mar 25th 2012 at 4:36:22 AM

It's kind of the like Dragon, crossed with an averted The Starscream. Seems pretty straightforward to me, but Needs A Better Name.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#19: Mar 25th 2012 at 3:41:04 PM

A name that doesn't depend on knowing the definition of a different trope would be nice.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#20: Mar 25th 2012 at 4:24:26 PM

Something punnish? Disposable Villainous Maul. Plays on the idea of a "blunt instrument."

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#22: May 2nd 2012 at 6:33:27 AM

We have a consensus to rename, let's see some alt name suggestions.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#23: May 16th 2012 at 3:09:23 PM

Crowners exchanged.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#24: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:04:11 AM

Bumping for votes.

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#25: Aug 2nd 2012 at 5:16:11 AM

Calling the crowner in favor of the rename to Shoot the Dangerous Minion. Make it so.

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24th Mar '12 5:44:04 AM

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