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IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI
#3251: Feb 19th 2018 at 9:56:51 PM

Ever since I learned that Jim was a long-time Dynasty Warriors fan (until 9 came along), I've always been wondering whether he knows of the Dynasty Warriors: Gundam series.

Based on that video, I guess he does. (Or that could be from his research, not sure if he played them yet.)

"I won't forgive what they DID to Zhang He!"
I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Jim seeing Tecmo-Koei forever ruining his favorite Dynasty Warriors character, but part of me chuckles on his inflection of the word "did" in relation to Zhang He.

Also, "Autoerotic Assetflipsiation"... [lol]

edited 19th Feb '18 10:07:07 PM by IncognitoNinja

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mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
Forever Gorgeous
#3252: Feb 20th 2018 at 6:04:38 AM

as someone who does play dynasty warriors, dw9 is actually one of those "this shouldn't be a relief" reliefs for me. Like hey, one less good game means one less game to think about buying.

Jokes aside, though, it's a disappointment to see how it turned out, so Jim ripping into it is cathartic.

edited 20th Feb '18 6:07:29 AM by mrsunshinesprinkles

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#3254: Feb 23rd 2018 at 7:16:37 AM

Too far, nostalgia. Too far.

edited 23rd Feb '18 7:16:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3255: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:32:30 AM

It's really hilarious when Trump echoed that opinion.

Why? Because plenty of the MR As and Nazis that elected him are also gamers who are probably shitting themselves now trying to rationalize this little problem.

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#3256: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:34:36 AM

As sweet as the irony would be if they fucked over their video games, the rest of us would suffer and I rather not sacrifice my hobby to make one group suffer.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
IncognitoNinja Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gravity Beams and BIDIBIDIBIDIBIDI
#3257: Feb 24th 2018 at 11:24:53 PM

To paraphrase Abridged!Alucard:

"YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THAT VIDEO GAMES MAKE PEOPLE VIOLENT. BUT I'D SAY NOT HAVING GOOD VIDEO GAMES MAKES PEOPLE PRETTY FUCKING VIOLENT!"

Not to mention that cliched, 90s-era statement also feels like a distraction to the new tens' loot box issue. (wild mass guess I wouldn't be surprised if some corporate suits raking in the MTX money also funded those same politicians spouting out that "video games make people violent" statement as part of their own corporate False Flag Operation.)

EDIT: On a different note, I can't believe Jim forgot about the "$10 for a save slot" thing in Metal Gear: Survive. Also, he did make the whole review about Metal Gear: Survive a "FucKonami News" segment...

edited 25th Feb '18 12:22:42 AM by IncognitoNinja

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GraymanofBelka The Senate from Coruscant Since: Dec, 2017
The Senate
#3258: Feb 26th 2018 at 6:31:30 AM

WHY ARE WE STILL HERE JUST TO SUFFER?

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
LikeVileVillians from Russia Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#3260: Feb 27th 2018 at 9:23:12 AM

ESRB says it will label games with micro transactions and in game purchases. (Note that this doesn't differentiate from any purchase. Lootboxes would be marked the same as microtransactions)

edited 27th Feb '18 9:26:59 AM by Ghilz

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#3261: Feb 27th 2018 at 9:31:06 AM

You see, government?

It's all the same thing! :^)

Now look away from the boss' paper that says to deliberately muddy the waters to keep us out of trouble...

NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Inheritor of the Wing
#3262: Feb 27th 2018 at 11:46:27 AM

"In-game purchases" meaning... DLC, right?

If plain ol' DLC is included in that umbrella, this is the opposite of a good thing and very very shady of the ESRB to do; as it outright hides information from the consumer and leaves them to research the extent of the in-game purchases on their own. Is it a game with additional content you can purchase once and be done with, or is it a game with no upper limit on spending? That shouldn't be something that the consumer can't figure out if they have to buy a game on the spot.

If it doesn't include DLC and it's just microtransactions and loot boxes being labelled... it's still muddier than I'd like but I'll take any inch we can get. Microtransactions in of themselves have kind of been a no-no word in console games for a while now, so lumping them in with the bigger no-no word doesn't seem like it'll hurt much.

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#3263: Feb 27th 2018 at 12:01:56 PM

I don't think DLC counts as an in-game purchase. Some games do feature options to buy it from the main menu, but even that is usually just a quick shortcut to that DLC's entry in the general marketplace. You buy DLC out of game, install it, and then load up your game and it's there.

edited 27th Feb '18 12:02:25 PM by TobiasDrake

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GraymanofBelka The Senate from Coruscant Since: Dec, 2017
The Senate
#3264: Feb 28th 2018 at 7:34:48 AM

The ESRB should divide additional purchases into 5 categories Free DLC Cosmetics Micro transactions DLC Expansions

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3265: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:06:18 AM

It doesn't matter how ERSB does it. It was made a toothless poststamp agency for a reason. Everyone knew it only existed to get the politicians off the industry, and if the measures end here, nothing will actually change.

Much like the 90s parents never bothered to read the content ratings, so does the industry hope the parents of today won't understand what "in-game purchases" means.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#3266: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:33:24 AM

The main effect that an ESRB rating will have is that it defangs the parental argument. With content warnings, parents are assumed to be making an informed choice when they purchase the game. If you didn't read the content warnings provided on the game, then that's not the publisher's fault; you're just a bad parent.

With this move, the microtransaction debate can no longer revolve around "THINK OF THE CHILDREN". The industry believes that this will therefore end the debate entirely and allow them to resume business as usual. It will be up to consumers and activists to determine whether or not they're right.

Politics are an elaborate chessgame. The games industry just declared Check.

edited 28th Feb '18 8:33:49 AM by TobiasDrake

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#3267: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:36:16 AM

In fairness, that's not wrong. Parents should pay a lot more attention to content warnings.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#3268: Feb 28th 2018 at 8:40:05 AM

It's indeed not wrong. The games industry has reserved the right to say, "If YOUR child stole YOUR credit card to use features that we clearly marked and labelled on the product YOU bought, how is that my fault?" The burden of responsibility to avoid predatory gambling in video games is now on parents and consumers, and not on publishers.

If the only problem with microtransactions is kids falling prey to them, then this solves that problem. The only thing wrong with it is that this is not the core problem with microtransactions. The children argument was the most vocal symptom of the problem, and now the industry's provided a remedy for just that symptom that looks reasonable enough to any casual viewer, and declared the problem solved.

As I said, it's on consumers and activists to ultimately determine whether this will be the end of the discussion, as the industry intends it to be.

edited 28th Feb '18 8:41:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3269: Feb 28th 2018 at 9:33:31 AM

And here's the thing, no offense to any parents presently reading this, but parents are never informed.

The only parents who have even a faintest clue on what microtransactions represent are or were gamers themselves. And we do have a lot of parents who aren't, who can't possibly understand what the innocious and sickeningly neutral "in-game purchases" is supposed to mean. And the whole thing is designed that way, to bank on your classic soccer mom or rugby dad being too stupid to understand what exactly their little Timmy or Betty is asking them to buy.

And sadly, they're right. A parent can't possibly keep up with all the latest nonsense because they're too busy being, you know, a parent.

For all the parent knows, "in-game purchases" just means you use in-game money to buy in-game items like 80% of all games have.

It shouldn't be surprising for anyone who read any of my posts, but corporate neutral speak like that makes me want to explosively evacuate from both ends.

edited 28th Feb '18 9:37:57 AM by Luminosity

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#3270: Feb 28th 2018 at 9:45:12 AM

Yes we can blame the parents for not researching the games their kids get, but the M rated label never stopped the moral guardians from starting a crusade.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3271: Feb 28th 2018 at 9:47:42 AM

A crusade that (in the M-rating's case, thankfully) accomplished nothing time and time again.

They're banking on this ending up in the same manner.

edited 28th Feb '18 9:51:04 AM by Luminosity

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#3272: Feb 28th 2018 at 9:48:10 AM

Well, I think it's the end of the discussion as far as it goes for actual government regulation. Getting it out of games as a whole requires mass consumer boycotts.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#3273: Feb 28th 2018 at 9:55:14 AM

[up][up]Of course this time many gamers are on the side of the angry moms.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#3274: Feb 28th 2018 at 11:01:25 AM

[up]x2 The industry is more likely to implode on itself first.

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#3275: Mar 1st 2018 at 12:00:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT77jq3FiJo - The Warrior of Treasures (Not Quiiiiiite Dark Souls) (Direct To Video)

edited 1st Mar '18 12:00:58 PM by LikeVileVillians


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