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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:13:17 AM

^Most things are not that obvious. These are the problem - YKTTW where the complaining aspect isn't spelled out so clearly*

So, we need a gauge.

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#27: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:27:33 AM

My proposed standard is: no new YMMV, Darth Wiki, or audience reaction articles that are designed to document negative opinions. We have enough of them.

edited 22nd Feb '12 9:27:57 AM by Fighteer

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#28: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:30:10 AM

Even if we were to create them, I would have them exampleless.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#29: Feb 22nd 2012 at 9:32:12 AM

Basically, if it's

  1. YMMV (or Darth Wiki-level)
  2. is mostly about (negative) reception and
  3. cannot be repurposed to be something else than about negative reception,

it should be discarded (or cut if it's already launched)?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#30: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:27:13 AM

Just for Fun darth wiki pages are still okay?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#31: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:27:57 AM

^I hope so.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Feb 22nd 2012 at 10:43:04 AM

Presumably Grandfather Clause applies.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#33: Feb 22nd 2012 at 11:50:50 AM

More gushing pages probably aren't necessary either, though those aren't such a big problem considering people have a natural tendency to complain.

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#34: Feb 22nd 2012 at 12:01:09 PM

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment, I'd like to remind everyone that you're currently Complaining About Complaining. tongue

That said, I do agree with the general sentiment that we don't need more complaint pages. That's not what this wiki's about. Don't really have any suggestions for this that haven't already been offered up, though.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35: Mar 4th 2012 at 1:02:48 PM

Just to make sure; I'm allowed to nuke this kind of thing, right?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#36: Mar 4th 2012 at 1:04:24 PM

[up]I suggest yes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37: Mar 20th 2012 at 8:06:01 AM

Just to be sure: This kind of thing should be nuked, right?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#38: Mar 20th 2012 at 8:19:18 AM

It looks much like a complainy form of Informed Obscenity.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39: Mar 20th 2012 at 8:24:13 AM

To me it reads like "bitch about changes you didn't like/get the point of".

It basically has a "enter 4Kids RAEG rant" label on it.

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Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#40: Mar 22nd 2012 at 11:26:11 AM

That was awful. Thank God it's been discarded.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#41: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:08:00 PM

Uh...what?

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#42: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:11:59 PM

[up] Hm, it appears to be a duplicate of Never Live It Down, with just a smidge of ComplainingAboutAdaptationsYouDontLike. Not something we really need, to be honest.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#43: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:14:36 PM

And it has a Bad Trope Namer.

By the way, this thread is getting a lot of requests. Should we make a dedicated Complaining cleanup thread for all the wiki, YKTTW and articles?

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#44: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:15:53 PM

"Purging bitching thread"?

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#45: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:18:35 PM

By the way, this thread is getting a lot of requests. Should we make a dedicated Complaining cleanup thread for all the wiki, YKTTW and articles?

Sure. We might as well make one for pointless gushing; while it's not as big a problem as pointless complaining, it's still something we don't need.

Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#46: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:21:17 PM

There IS already one for gushing - I've linked it in the What Goes Where In The Forums thread.

I think we just need to find a name for a complaining cleanup thread and then pin it in Special Efforts.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:22:48 PM

We made gushing cleanup before bitching cleanup? Seems odd.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#48: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:28:48 PM

There is a bitching cleanup thread for Headscratchers pages, The Great Headscratchers Complaining Cleanup. However, a wider name and a more fleshed out OP would be necessary for a more general thread.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#49: Mar 25th 2012 at 11:59:49 AM

Bump. Any opinions on making a dedicated complaining cleanup thread in Special Efforts?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#50: Mar 25th 2012 at 4:34:12 PM

I support it.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.

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