This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"
Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.
If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces
instead.
For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:
- #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
- #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
- #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
- #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
- #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
- #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
- #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
- #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
- #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
- #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.
I'd be grateful for input.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM
The Other Troper
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And by a happy coincidence, such a solution was also brought up in that other thread.
What is the deal with Hazuko Shirayukis Brotastic Adventure? The only mention of it I can find is in Na No Wri Mo, but if it only exists in novel form, then you can't really put it under manga.
edited 31st Jul '12 2:38:42 AM by lu127
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
In uffish thought
Is that page worth keeping? No tropes, first-person stuff, it isn't published (the Na No site doesn't support publishing your novel, just a brief extract)... I reckon it belongs in Darth Wiki/ as an unpublished work.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
A manga in progress ought to go to Darth Wiki, at least.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Maybe it goes to Franchise/. It needs an index as well.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Where do pages for forums like Jelly Neo Forums and Sega Forums get namespaced at? WebSite/ or something?
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
akkalime
Hello... I'm new to this whole page creation business so forgive me for anything stupid that I might bring up :D
Anyway, I'm here to ask as to which namespace I should put Kagerou Project in? It's a series of songs, but it also has a novel and manga... An anime is also in the works.
Basically, the songs and the novel go hand in hand and the whole plot is best understood when you have them together. The manga is based on the novel, and the anime is yet to be released.
I originally thought of making a creator page for the song writer, but considering how it's a whole series with a complex plot and many characters I thought that maybe I should put it on another page. I also thought of placing it under light novels, but the songs are an integral part to the series so now I'm not quite sure....
Should I make a separate music page and have a link on it leading to the light novel, and then make the main page a disambiguation page? I feel like that would be the best course of action seeing as there are so many aspects to the whole series in general, but I'm not quite sure.
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I see the Awesomeness.
Franchise might work best as the "main" page for where most of it is discussed.
Fight smart, not fair.Manga.The Truth About Bleach is misplaced. It's not actually a manga, but a parody of the manga Bleach in the same way Abridged Series are parodies of other anime. Where would it go?
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Which medium is it?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I see the Awesomeness.
I think it counts as webcomic maybe? The same as something like Darths And Droids does.
Fight smart, not fair. Sounds about right.
Now, Welcome To The NHK...it didn't start as an anime. It started as a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_N.H.K. novel.]] The manga and anime are adaptations...where to move it?
edited 23rd Aug '12 9:41:31 AM by lu127
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Split the page between them, or in the absence of knowledge required for the split ask in a Trope Repair Shop thread or in the show's forum thread.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWhy? According to Wikipedia, I can't find any differences significant enough to merit a split.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
In uffish thought
Then go to the original medium, Literature/.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Could someone please point me at some documentation for how to create a new page in a manner that ensures that it goes into the correct namespace?
This page contains a list of currently supported namespaces. Um I don't really know about "ensuring" per se...best way to be certain you're doing it right would be, like, to ask here and get someone to check your work? I guess?
Hope that helps.
edited 27th Aug '12 6:55:58 PM by troacctid
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Not a lot. I know the namespace I want to use, but I'm puzzled about how to create a new work page so that it goes into that namespace.
In uffish thought
Just type TheNamespaceYouNeed/TheWorkName in the sandbox or this thread or something, click the link, and edit that page. If you say what the page and namespace are, someone can make the link and maybe do a null edit to the page for you.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
In uffish thought
New Sith Brotherhood: Roleplay website. Normally I'd put it in Roleplay/, but I don't know whether to do Website/ instead in this case since it isn't a specific RP game and the trope list begins with "This website includes examples of".
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.Well try this test. If you're describing it to someone who's never heard of it before, would you start with "New Sith brotherhood is a website..." or "New Sith Brotherhood is a roleplay..."?
Rhymes with "Protracted."
In uffish thought
New Sith Brotherhood is a roleplay website. New Sith Brotherhood is an <adjective> <noun> (alternatively, NSB is a website for roleplay). Therefore, website. Thanks!
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Paradise Lost is the name of a book and of a band. The book currently has a YMMV page. I just removed some YMMV tropes from the Music.Paradise Lost page... and found I have nowhere to move them. Uh, what do I do? Should the band's page be renamed Music.Paradise Lost (Band) ?
Anyway, here're the entries, for posterity.
- Germans Love David Hasselhoff - Despite being a British band, Paradise Lost are considerably more popular in mainland Europe.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks! - This is par for the course with a band that changes its sound pretty much every album.
- Wangst - Oh, come on, they're a gothic metal band!
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I saw a case like that recently while fixin' wicks, where something had a page like Anime/FooOVA, with links to and from Anime/Foo. I don't remember the work's name, but if the OVA really is that distinct, that seems like it might be a reasonable approach.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.