This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"
Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.
If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces
instead.
For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:
- #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
- #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
- #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
- #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
- #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
- #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
- #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
- #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
- #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
- #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.
I'd be grateful for input.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM
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You will have to either track down the page editors or find a forum (thread).
Otherwise, I can't see any way to split a YMMV tab - just cutlist it and be done with it would be my call.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I just cutlisted it. It's three entries, I can't figure out what to do with them, and there's only 2 inbounds. If someone wants to add them back, no one will stop them.
How should the Evil Overlord List, The Grand List Of Console Role Playing Game Cliches, etc. be namespaced?
I'm pretty sure those would fall under JustForFun/.
EDIT: And apparently that's not an official namespace. Don't we have a namespace specifically for Just for Fun pages?
edited 15th Jun '12 4:01:16 PM by Nocturna
No, we don't. Maybe we should.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
I'd say we should as well.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
I've seen a few pages in JustForFun/ and see no reason why it cannot be made official.
I was asking the same thing on the last page. And Administrivia/, too.
I thought Administrivia/ was already an official namespace.
It's not on the list. Although I have to admit I'm surprised about that, too.
In uffish thought
I think [=Just for Fun/ and Administrivia/ should definitely be official, since they're already used and make sense and all.
What's up with AnimaSolus.Anima Solus? Clearly that's the wrong namespace, but I'm having trouble figuring out what is. Is it meant to be Roleplay/?
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
I also agree with shifting Just for Fun pages to JustForFun.
With Administrivia/, though, there is the problem of the numerous redirects (Ask The Tropers, Lost And Found etc.), locked pages and Wiki Tropes.
My take is that Wiki Tropes should stay on Main/ but everything else (except these redirects and of course Home Page) can go to Administrivia/. Can we get official clearance here?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAnimaSolus.Anima Solus. Looks like Roleplaying to me, doesn't it?
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Looks right. Also has nearly two hundred inbounds though.
The Evil Overlord List doesn't seem any more (or less) Just for Fun than, say, The Tough Guide To Fantasyland. How about a Books on Trope namespace? Or perhaps a (works of) Criticism namespace?
What is the medium of these works?
The Tough Guide To Fantasyland is a print book, so I guess Literature, and by the same logic I suppose Web Original is not wrong for the Evil Overlord List.
What would Lucha Jack be? It's currently under the WebOriginal namespace - but we're not using that, anymore.
@elwoz and Septimus: Some time ago, I suggested a "Tropology/" (my first idea) namespace for Books on Trope (link). Fast Eddie said it "could be useful" (but nothing has come of it so far).
Some of the pages on Books on Trope are not actually about a single or an entire work — for example, The Hero's Journey. And even for the rest, IMO it makes sense to put works that discuss or analyze tropes (for example, Aristotle's Poetics) apart from works that use them for storytelling.
edited 24th Jun '12 1:02:50 AM by LordGro
Let's just say and leave it at that.
Web Original is being phased out.
I think that to address the Tropology/ question (and the Administrivia/ and JustForFun/), we might need a crowner.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Yes, I'm aware of that. My question was, what is Lucha Jack? I need to know, so that I can move it.
edited 24th Jun '12 7:59:08 AM by movie007
Its source seems to be a webcomic, but the article reads like a meme.
Speaking of memes, where should articles for other memes like LOL Cats or Chuck Norris Facts go?
I am tempted to chuck them onto Memes.Something Awful and Memes.Chuck Norris
. Don't think we need a meme namespace, sicne We Are Not A Meme Site.
I don't know enough about the games to determine where the different entries need to go.
Neither of the games are particularly well known, so I'd be speculating at best. Any way of getting someone more familiar with these works to determine how the page needs to be split?