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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1601: Sep 19th 2012 at 7:34:44 AM

Then you figure out that mimes can mime Calculators, Dancers and Bards, the doods who target either your entire team or every enemy on the map, most of the time.

A Mime doubles the number of attacks that go off. If you've got four dancers and a mime, you can, in theory, kill every enemy in the map without moving a single square in relatively few turns.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#1602: Sep 19th 2012 at 7:47:08 AM

My favorite tactic was to get a character to learn Holy, then turn them into a Calculator, Kuro. They run on ultra-basic math, so I can usually target only the bad guys and not my units, Kuro (the value of 'elevation', 'level', and 'multiple of 4' is vastly underrated, Kuro. People who complain Calculators are hard to use or useless are math-flunking morons, Kuro). Cue mass Holy, at absolutely no mp cost, Kuro.

edited 19th Sep '12 7:49:44 AM by SCMof2814

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1603: Sep 19th 2012 at 7:48:05 AM

Exactly.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#1604: Sep 19th 2012 at 7:54:09 AM

The fun part is this works even on bosses, Kuro. Since most boss fights happen on maps were the terrain is level and has no decimal places, you can consistently target bosses, Kuro. Calculators also have no casting delay, meaning they can't be sucker-punched, Kuro. The most reliable way to hurt a boss is to cast float on your whole party, raising them up by .5 elevation and making them impossible to target with elevation, then using elevation as a targeting factor, Kuro. Most bosses stand on squares whose elevations are factors of 3 or 5, Kuro.

Though if you happen to prefer doing it the bloody way, a ninja/knight with a Blood Sword in both hands is your best bet, Kuro. Two attacks AND healing, Kuro.. Or a monk/ninja, since a monk's barehanded attack is a double attack yet still counts as a weapon, meaning you attack 4 times, Kuro. Still prefer Calculators though, Kuro.

edited 19th Sep '12 7:58:58 AM by SCMof2814

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#1605: Sep 19th 2012 at 7:55:48 AM

[up] ... Wait, why do you constantly write "Kuro" in your sentences? Is that some sort of meme or...? XD

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#1606: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:00:26 AM

It's my Verbal Tic, Kuro. In the FSN thread, it's "Kuro", on the Nanoha thread it's "Nano", and in the Negima thread it's "Poyo", Kuro.

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#1607: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:06:33 AM

In short, he's neurotic like that. Just ignore it.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#1608: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:08:47 AM

Yes, ignore him, Kuro. He just can't appreciate the beauty of giving someone a verbal tic they didn't have in canon, Kuro. Homu-homu.

edited 19th Sep '12 8:09:05 AM by SCMof2814

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#1609: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:11:31 AM

Well, it doesn't make any sense! If there was a reason for the meme, then fine!

And on that note, courtesy of Hitomi's Dub Text:

Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls! GIRLS CAN'T LOVE GIRLS! <runs away having a freakout>

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#1611: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:14:51 AM

PMMM meme, born from the English dub after Sayaka declares that "You're mine, Madoka! Mine, mine, MINE!"

But this isn't the thread for that.

Also, forgot to mention this: FFV Mimes aren't limited to Miming something once, though - they can Mime it indefinitely as long as the allied units don't make another action.

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#1612: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:38:36 AM

[up]Especially amusing since you don't have to push too hard to read the whole series as a love story between, yes, two girls.

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#1613: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:43:52 AM

As did Isad

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You have to be blind, death, and in massive denial to not be able to read it that way.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1614: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:50:29 AM

I can't recall whether mimes could mime it or not, though I think they could.

The Blood Sword deals too little damage to be considered. If you're so desperate to have a self healing main attacker, just use Orlandu. It's not like you won't, anyway.

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#1615: Sep 19th 2012 at 9:03:55 AM

Blood Sword is Game-Breaker for the Final Boss in FFII and useful in V, IIRC.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1616: Sep 19th 2012 at 10:03:37 AM

That's because in those games, it deals % damage, IIRC. In FFT, Drain still works like that (in fact, it's Ultima's nightmare, as it always hits for 999 damage on her), but the Blood Sword now has a fixed attack power.

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#1617: Sep 19th 2012 at 11:48:46 AM

I see. Have you got anyone for Chemist yet? I propose Nicholas Flamel or John Dee.

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#1618: Sep 19th 2012 at 11:53:59 AM

Flamel sounds good. Are there any offensive chemists? Maybe a guy that knows acids really well?

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#1619: Sep 19th 2012 at 12:00:33 PM

Unless we count fictional characters, not that I can think of.

Suggestions for Mediator: Winston Churchill, John F. Kennedy, or King Solomon.

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#1621: Sep 19th 2012 at 12:11:43 PM

Ah. I thought Elijah was Summoner?

Ah well.

Tentative list of Servants mentioned thus far, along with more suggestions of my own:

  • Archer = EMIYA
  • Dancer = (proposal: Mata Hari)
  • Bard = Mozart (proposed alternate: Orpheus)
  • Calculator = Einstein
  • Chemist = Nicholas Flamel
  • Geomancer
  • Knight = Arturia
  • Lancer = Longinus
  • Mediator = Churchill / JFK
  • Mime
  • Monk = Li Shu Wen
  • Ninja
  • Oracle = Rodrigo Borgia
  • Priest = St. Peter
  • Samurai = Sasaki Kojiro
  • Squire = Nero
  • Summoner = Elijah
  • Thief = Robin Hood
  • Time Mage = Kiritsugu or Chronos
  • Wizard = Morgana

edited 19th Sep '12 3:51:48 PM by EvaUnit01

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#1622: Sep 19th 2012 at 12:20:19 PM

Ooh, Elijah is good too. I'll leave that decision to someone else.

edited 19th Sep '12 12:21:04 PM by Augustine

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#1623: Sep 19th 2012 at 1:44:52 PM

Wizard is, indeed, Arturia's sister.

As I said, having the characters actually have grudges amongst themselves makes the plot much easier to write.

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#1624: Sep 19th 2012 at 4:06:17 PM

All we need now is a concrete discision for Dancer, Geomancer, Mime, Ninja, Time Mage, and possibly a review for Bard over Mozart versus Orpheus.

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#1625: Sep 21st 2012 at 7:53:32 PM

Part of Unequally Rational and Emotional

Interlude: Ohtori Academy.

Tokiha Mai woke up groggily, spurred by the soft chantings of Anthy in the next room reaching her ears. The busty orange haired girl wasn't thinking too clearly at all, so she had to check the bottom bunk first and verify it was empty before going down the upper one, licking her lips in lazy circles as she did so.

"Anthy...?" she called out in a yawn.

She stumbled more than anything else her way to the bedroom's door, applying an ear to it before daring to walk out. She was savvy to Anthy's eccentric and often dangerous hobbies by now. She didn't want to be attacked by Swiss cows or trading bodies with anyone else again.

Mai heard, then, her roommate's soft voice saying something she mildly thought she recognized as a "The body shall be under me... My Fate shall be thy sword..."

Mai blinked to further awareness. "Anthy?" she raised her voice a little. "You haven't brought a boy in, have you?"

Undeterred, the chant continued, growing louder as Mai saw light filtering under the door now, which majorly creeped her out. "If the convocation of the Holy Grail acknowledges this resolve and purpose..."

Mai began bashing a fist on the door. "Dammit, Anthy-chan! Not funny anymore! C-Come on, you'll scare th-the neighbors!"

"Just a minute, Mai-sama!" Anthy's voice gained a cheerful edge for a moment before growing sinister, even somber, again. "Overcome the wheel of restrains, Guardian of Equilibrium...!"

After a loud gasp, Mai went through a quick prayer in her head and pushed the door open. "Anthy! I don't know what you think you're doing, but sto—!"

Then the sound of a deafening explosion filled her ears, and she fell on her butt on the floor, momentarily blinded by an all consuming light that had hurt her eyes. "AH!" she felt around with both hands. "My eyes! I can't see, I can't see! I can't—!" Then her hands found something hard and sturdy on the floor before her, something she idly recognized as a pair of boots right before her eyesight returned enough for her to confirm that yes, she was grabbing a pait of shiny black boots.

Those boots were in the feet of a very, very tall and well muscled man with dark skin and white hair, although he seemed to be still young otherwise. He also wore black pants and shirt, with a long red badass overcoat hanging from his torso. The first thing that struck Mai about him was how handsome and imposing he looked, and that made her lose coherence long enough for him to say, "Are you my Master?"

"Me... Your... Your...?" Mai babbled, managing to recover her presence just in time to notice he wasn't even looking at her, but a smiling Anthy instead. Chu Chu cowered, trembling, before his owner, which Mai knew by now was never a good sign.

"Indeed," Anthy made a refinated curtsy. "An Archer-san, am I correct? I must say I was aiming for a Saber-san, but you should suffice as well?"

The tall and dark stranger smirked oh so manly. "Well, isn't that always the way? Everyone always seems to wish for Sabers, isn't that right?"

He seemed to regard Anthy with some amused curiosity while completely ignoring the baffled Mai even as she wobbled back to her feet.

"Ano..." Mai said. "Excuse me, sir, but I think you have entered an exclusively female dormitory, and, and blown our ceiling up..." And she took hold of a nearby broom with all the courage a string of recent sword duels had given her. "So please be as kind as to get the fuck out of here!"

The tall man stopped her broom swing with a casual blocking of two fingers, making Mai pause in shock. That move had been the one to topple Touga-sempai down! Granted, she had been possessed by Dios at the time, but still...!

"Is this supposed to be a preliminary test of my defense skills, Master?" he asked Anthy, sounding terminally bored all a sudden. "Because I would advice using someone with actual skill for that purpose."

"What...?" Mai's eyebrows danced angrily.

"Oh, no, that's just my husband-to-be, Tokiha Mai-sama," Anthy said good naturedly. "And I am Himemiya Anthy, the Rose Bride. This," she held a terrified and squirming monkey mouse for Archer to see, "is my best friend, Chu Chu."

"I see. Well, I already can see you have better tastes in friends than my former Master," the man nodded. In truth, he was missing Rin already. Something had gone terribly wrong this time, even more than usual, that was. "Well, then, pleased to meet you, Master. You have noticed your boyfriend has breasts, haven't you?"

"I'm a girl!" Mai growled, placing a hand on her well endowed chest. "What kind of prank is this? Who are you and what are you doing here?-!"

"Oh, relax, Mai-sama," Anthy told her. "You had told me you wanted to be in Mahora, hadn't you?"

"Yeah, but what does that have to do with this?"

"Well, this gentleman here is our ticket to Mahora," Anthy pleasantly gestured for the big man.

Mai looked back and forth between them, with a blank face, before curtly telling her friend, "I'm not sleeping with anyone for a scholarship!"

"Ahhh, I see I'll have to explain myself better..."

Archer calmly strode for the kitchen. "Don't mind me. I'll go fix myself something while you go over the usual info dumps. You'll excuse me, but one finds those excruciatingly boring after a few times..."


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