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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14976: Nov 25th 2015 at 3:34:01 AM

Saber Lily is somewhat already canonical. She's Saber from after she got Caliburn but before she got Excalibur.

Medea Lily is also somewhat already canonical. It's Medea Pre-Jason, so she still trusts people and is all about the healing. Even her Noble Phantasm is about healing. She can't fight for shit though.

Incidentally, in any fic I ever write, Issei will always remain gay, and trying to get into Shirou's pants. I like this pairing, I refuse to not use it.

edited 25th Nov '15 3:34:50 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#14978: Nov 25th 2015 at 3:45:42 AM

So, she's picking the versions from universes where they die as little girls (since the process summons you when your body is at it's most powerful), but manage to become heroes regardless?

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#14979: Nov 25th 2015 at 4:56:42 AM

Or just ignore the rule about what age they're supposed to be summoned at, because any rules in a Grail War are really more polite suggestions.

Also, I think EMILILYA is just called "Kuro." tongue

Incidentally, Grand Order Servant info here.

edited 25th Nov '15 12:19:24 PM by rikalous

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#14980: Nov 25th 2015 at 5:53:56 AM

Nah, "Emillya" is an actual Shirou Emiya who got stuck in a somewhat wild-haired clone of Illya's body after Heaven's Feel, from a series of doujinshi. No relation to Kuro whatsoever.

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#14981: Nov 25th 2015 at 6:00:30 AM

But you could definitely have Achilles Lily - aka Pyhrra. It's canonical!

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#14982: Nov 25th 2015 at 7:17:51 AM

For those of you who still doubt me about Emilya's existence... Lo and behold.

edited 25th Nov '15 7:19:31 AM by MarqFJA

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#14983: Nov 25th 2015 at 7:43:09 AM

Are those just random pages or is there an entire doujinshi of that?

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#14984: Nov 25th 2015 at 7:57:02 AM

There are multiple doujinshi. Including at least one where Emilya exists alongside Archerko (yes, they're both by Himura Kiseki).

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14985: Nov 25th 2015 at 12:55:12 PM

I'm not fond of the fact that she is somehow unable to use Projection or even Magecraft in general. If it's Shirou's soul, then it has Shirou's circuits, and more importantly, it still has Unlimited Blade Works. If anything, having Illya's homunculus body should make him either die instantly (because of how Homunculi work) or go from "somewhat useful" to "f*ckin' broken as sh*t".

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#14986: Nov 25th 2015 at 1:30:06 PM

In the Heaven's Feel route, the combination of overusing Projection and the supernatural damage from the version of UBW within Archer's arm invading Shirou's body "broke his Magic Circuit to pieces", plus the mana flow of his puppet body is quite bad, to the point that Sakura has to supplement his reserves with her own huge ones just to keep his body working properly. However, Rin believes that he can eventually regain his ability to use UBW with sufficient training. I assume something similar happened to Emilya.

And for the record, the whole Emilya is obviously based on the fact that Illya does actually use an imperfect version of the Third Magic (because the Grail has yet to achieve the full formula as intended) on a part of her old body to create Shirou's new one in Heaven's Feel, which is why when the others find him, he's quite tiny and only humanoid-looking rather than human-looking.

edited 25th Nov '15 1:32:38 PM by MarqFJA

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#14987: Nov 25th 2015 at 1:33:29 PM

Oh! I forgot! Chapter 6 of "Fake x Fate". In which Shirou continues to be amazing without necessarily outperforming the others. Really, this story may be a good exercise in just how broken UBW is due to its insane versatility and Shirou's access to a very large number of Noble Phantasms thanks to both EMIYA and Gilgamesh.

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#14988: Nov 25th 2015 at 3:15:37 PM

Apparently, the Fate/Strange Fake manga is a real thing now.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14989: Nov 25th 2015 at 4:14:22 PM

And incidentally, playing Grand Order has kind of left me wanting to see a version of Fate Extra... except everyone gets a full team of seven servants, and it runs like a very, very lethal Pokemon tournament.

Because Twice was a huge fan of the Mons type of game.

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#14990: Nov 25th 2015 at 5:24:17 PM

So, will that thing also have Chibi Arcueid as Chibi Temptress-Funny Vamp with Neco Arcueid as her magical mascot? Because that'd be like the best thing ever.

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#14991: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:48:44 AM

[up][up][up] What, do you mean they actually started publishing it?

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#14992: Nov 26th 2015 at 3:59:43 AM

The original was in light novel format, this is a manga.

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#14993: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:07:42 PM

Random thought: if Emperor Caligula were summoned as a Servant, what Class would he be, and what manner of Noble Phantasm might he have? Saber? Lancer? Archer?

The reputation for deviancy demands something that would allow him to penetrate his foes' defenses...

Or, actually, come to think of it, I'm pretty sure he'd qualify for Berserker, too...

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#14994: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:08:27 PM

She. And she'd look like Arturia.

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#14996: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:24:43 PM

[up][up]He. And like hell he would.

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#14997: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:27:07 PM

Let's be honest, before GO, there were even chances TM Caligula might have been female or male.

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#14998: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:29:34 PM

Also, I love how informative the relevant wiki articles were with respect to Caligula's NP.

Caligula's NP: see "Fluticulus Diana" (sic)

"Fluticulus Diana": Caligula's NP.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#14999: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:31:16 PM

Needs More Wiki Love. I'm sure it'll be expanded after enough people play the game.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15000: Nov 26th 2015 at 5:37:00 PM

Caligula, hm?

Lemme see what I can do...

A complete sadist who likes sadism. All enemies that catch his eye become targets of atrocities and misdeeds. Furthermore, having fell into a state in which self-restrain is ineffective due to the Skill Mad Enhancement, he is unmanageable... but even in this state, he likes Roma. He also likes Nero.

(On his version of Mad Enhancement... which is A+ BTW): All stats receive a Rank-UP, but the majority of reason ended up being robbed away. In case he gets in contact with Nero or Roma, a LCK check is performed. If successful, his rampage is put to a stop.

Fluticulus Diana (Moonlight, Devour my Soul): Rank C, Anti-Army. A wide range-type mental pollution attack that spreads his own madness via the moonlight projected from the sky. Very powerful. A Noble Phantasm that sublimated the legends in which the expression of his madness is the affection and divine protection of the Moon Goddess Diana (corresponding to Artemis of the Olympian Gods). If employed against an entire army, a repulsive and miserable situation will probably occur.

Despite being an existence extremely close to a anti-hero, the reason why he manifested in this world as a Heroic Spirit is unknown. Maybe it was a prank from a Divine Spirit that presides over the moon; or maybe the reason that exist in the shadows of madness, the mentality from when he was once called a wise ruler, cheered up when facing with the demise of human history...

Courtesy of the Cirnopedia.

Outside of the game, he's probably kind of nightmarish to face, because of the whole 'can forcibly seal your NP' thing, but in the game, he's... well, he's a two star servant, and using servants below 4 stars is just irresponsible.

edited 26th Nov '15 5:44:43 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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