The Gun Thread

Don't dealers try to pass off the turned-down bolt handle as a "sniper" feature to charge extra?

It is a sniper feature, the downturned bolt means the weapon was made to accept scopes. The rifles were also made with tighter tolerances.

That's why you gotta check if the serials on the gun and the bolt match. So you know it's a proper one and not a random rifle they dropped the sniper bolt into.

edited 30th Jun '16 1:22:35 PM by LeGarcon

A surplus Mosin-Nagant is about the only decent rifle you're likely to find at that price, Handle. Anything else you could get for a hundred dollars is either cheaply made, or very old and worn out.

YES. This is fun! Now I wanna shoot them supermutants! I think it's because of that "bing!" sound, it's like a Critical Hit!

edited 30th Jun '16 2:43:46 PM by TheHandle

In terms of hunting you do want pretty good accuracy. It is how you ensure you land a clean hit to the vital target area. You have to remember living animals tend to move around even in small motions when standing still. If your aim is too far off you could maim or injure the animal causing a lingering death or the animal getting away with minor wounds.

The Nagant isn't all that fantastic as many make them out to be. They are neat fire arms but you can get better. It would be better to save up some cash and buy a middling deer rifle then having to spend roughly the same amount of money on cleaning up a Nagant to the same extent. Even the refurbished ones can be a bit rough and are known to suffer from an assortment of defects like warped stocks or mountings causing minor barrel bending. My father got a "From the Crate" Nagant and when it warmed up the shots went everywhere. The only good thing about a Nagant is you can typically buy them cheaply. You can find some Nagants that are pretty well put together but they tend cost more then surplus ones.

edited 30th Jun '16 4:44:48 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Tuefel's right; a $100 rifle is like a $500 car. It may get you from A to B — if it doesn't break down — but that's the only halfway positive thing that can be said about it. You'll find yourself cursing the damn thing soon enough.

If you're really serious about hunting, I recommend that you save up your money (at least $300, preferably more) and look for something better.

The way Mosins are getting, they are 300 dollar rifles.

I've been trying to get a 91/30 for the better part of half a year, but basically no store within 50 miles of me that I've checked with even sell them.

Yeah, word is starting to get out and demand is getting higher and higher.

Damn. Good bows aren't any cheaper either, are they?

By the way, anyone here interested in archery?

Bows are actually more expensive I think. They're sorta moving into that kinda competition sportsy toy kinda market instead of being tools like rifles are billed as.

Actually bows overall are cheaper but bow hunting is a lot harder. You have to get closer with a bow then you do a gun. Crossbow hunting is for whatever stupid reason is often more strictly limited. There are some really fancy bows out there but a serviceable bow is at most a few hundred bucks. The downside is it is harder to learn to use a bow. It also requires more physical exertion and bows are not as accurate as the guns. The arrows that are good for hunting and their hunting tips are expensive compared to bullets on a per shot basis.

I have helped instruct in basic archery and owned my own target bow before.

edited 30th Jun '16 9:05:54 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Well, if you're into hunting for sportsmanship rather than livelihood, bow hunting might be worth it in terms of Self-Imposed Challenge. There's also the advantage of silence, right?

Still, 600 to 1600$? Dayum!

You could probably pick up a used recurve bow for what your current budget allows. Avoid all the unnecessary gadgets and go primitive.

You have to shop around you can find a decent hunting bow for a couple hundred bucks.

But what if I only expect to use the bow for a dozen bucks, at most? Not sure I could down all that venison.

/rimshot

edited 1st Jul '16 5:40:44 AM by PRC4Eva

Let's face facts, Handle — you need either a bigger budget, or a cheaper hobby.

There ain't such thing as a cheap interesting hobby.

I tried to get into table top wargaming. I found out that crack was literally cheaper.^note Thanks Games Workshop for your wonderful prices And the only reason why I don't have a gun license yet is because I can't afford one yet.

edited 1st Jul '16 5:05:38 PM by AngelusNox

Any hobby will cost as much as you're willing to spend on it, whether it's photography, amateur radio, shooting, hard drugs, painting, or hiking.

True, but some hobbies can be done on the cheap by re-purposing stuff you already own. Not so when the primary gear is as specialized as a hunting rifle.

Try sleeping excessively, it's what I do for my hobby.

Or books and movies.

Public library and Netflix, baby!

In a more relevant note, a chick firing K3.

Well, that certainly doesn't look like FN Minimi. Nope, not at all.

edited 2nd Jul '16 12:35:22 AM by dRoy

Which is why film armourers use the K3 to double for the Minimi when they can't get them.

edited 2nd Jul '16 1:22:38 AM by Deadbeatloser22

If their guns are anything like their cars used to be, I wouldn't it past them to spontaneously combust.

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