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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11301: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:32:22 AM

That is the Minebea M-9. Japanese submachine gun that started out in life as an Uzi knockoff.

It's shit.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#11302: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:34:00 AM

It sure as hell looks shit, all right.

I mean, is there any good gun that is good enough that you will reliably use in battlefield that comes from Japan?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11303: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:37:33 AM

I really don't know actually. If memory serves they've got some domestic AR-18 derivative now.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#11304: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:38:55 AM

From what I know, America and Germany pretty much make all the best guns. [lol]

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11305: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:39:58 AM

Nah, we've been seriously dropping the ball lately and Germany makes overpriced shit that melts in your hand.

You want the best small arms you gotta go to Russia.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#11306: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:43:01 AM

Ah, yeah, those.

True, no guns in 20th century is ever used as widely and long as AK series, as far as I know.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11307: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:44:56 AM

Eh, simple fact of the matter is that the AK is a world beater now. Both in cost and effectiveness.

There's nothing the West can do that Russia can't except be infinitely more expensive.

And Tuefel I know you're gonna come in here tomorrow and give me shit for my advocacy of Russian firearms but those are your words, not mine.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#11308: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:48:47 AM

Well, that's part of what I meant by best gun; it's damn easy to acquire/produce and has reliable enough quality. As quoted in Lord of War, AK-47 is the true weapon of mass destruction. [lol]

(Does not possess any statistics to back this up, more intended as a joke than anything)

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11309: Aug 16th 2015 at 12:52:50 AM

Well it's not just about ease of acquisition and manufacturer anymore.

Your modern AK actually outperforms it's Western counterparts. So not only is it cheaper, easier to use, the most reliable thing around, it's also just plain better.

There's no reason not to pick an AK anymore.

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#11310: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:03:22 AM

There's nothing the West can do that Russia can't except be infinitely more expensive.

Nothing? surprised

Keep Rolling On
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11311: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:05:04 AM

Not when it comes to small arms.

There's other stuff we have them beaten in. Like fast food and cars and day to day life.

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#11312: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:16:54 AM

Not exactly an accomplishment considering the west has been at that end for how long now? Russia is just now catching up.

Who watches the watchmen?
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11313: Aug 16th 2015 at 1:20:38 AM

No, I refuse to believe the Russian McDonald's will ever be as good as our McDonald's.

edited 16th Aug '15 1:21:04 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#11314: Aug 16th 2015 at 7:55:06 AM

Lol. So if we had freedom fries what did they have?

I still want to pull apart the Pecheng and see its guts especially that barrel assembly.

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PRC4Eva Since: Jan, 2001
#11315: Aug 17th 2015 at 8:04:01 AM

Putine.

Like poutine, but instead of cheese curds and gravy on top of the fries, it's vodka.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#11316: Aug 17th 2015 at 8:48:27 AM

Nah, we've been seriously dropping the ball lately and Germany makes overpriced shit that melts in your hand.

You want the best small arms you gotta go to Russia.

Or Belgium, seeing as FN seems to know what they're doing.

majoraoftime Since: Jun, 2009
#11317: Aug 17th 2015 at 9:01:04 AM

Japanese small arms have a storied tradition of being shit, don't they? Like, didn't they have a pistol in WWII that often exploded in the user's hand?

Although there is the intersting factoid that Japan at the end of the Sengoku Jidai period had more guns in it than the entirety of Europe.

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Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#11318: Aug 17th 2015 at 9:12:14 AM

[up]I dunno about it exploding, but the Type 94 Nambu might as well have a nonexistent safety.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#11319: Aug 17th 2015 at 9:36:46 AM

[up]You know when you dun fucked up when it is more dangerous for the enemy when you toss them your gun and yell "try catch" instead of just upholstering and trying to shoot him.

Inter arma enim silent leges
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11321: Aug 19th 2015 at 5:41:12 PM

How unfortunate

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#11322: Aug 19th 2015 at 8:35:43 PM

Damn it I need trigger discipline kitty image again.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#11323: Aug 22nd 2015 at 11:08:15 AM

Japanese small arms have a storied tradition of being shit, don't they?

The state of a given nation's technology decades ago isn't really much indication of what it will be like now.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#11324: Aug 22nd 2015 at 4:44:37 PM

Even then only a few of their fire arms really sucked hard. Mostly the pistols. Their rifles were considered to have some of the sturdiest and most well built actions because of metal composition. The array of their fire arms really aren't that bad and they sent quite a few allies to their graves. Some of their weapons were simply creative. Like the "Knee Mortar". It could fire both grenades for the rifles and even small mortar shells. While it had some limitations it was considered a pretty effective weapon.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#11325: Aug 22nd 2015 at 5:01:49 PM

because of metal composition

GLORIOUS NIPPON STEEL and all that jazz.

"Yup. That tasted purple."

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