Something's wrong here: Shaving Is Science

Here Comes the Science needs work. Is it about false appeals to science, using invented terminology and scientific errors? Or is it about appeals to science in general? One is a fallacy, one is a valid argument. Or was it supposed to be exclusively about those pseudoscientific animations in ads (I thought it was that last one till now.)

edited 17th Apr '12 2:31:56 PM by Routerie

Idea for this trope: Make it so it means, "a seemingly simple product, like TP and razors, that their ads says are actually as scientifically advanced as a F-22 Raptor [1]." Can be true or not.

edited 17th Apr '12 2:45:59 PM by spacemarine50

I agree with Routerie on my interpretation of Here Comes the Science. That's why I mentioned it.

Also, the Raptor should probably link to Yanks With Tanks (our page on the US Military, see Forces with Firepower for the full index).

Lemme get this straight:

• Here Comes the Science - Closeup shots of some abstract representation of the product, for example little blue spheres going into pores.
• Shaving Is Science - Product is compared to a fighter plane or something else manly?

I thought that was the case for Here Comes the Science, but then I looked at its examples. Few to none of them were about that.

Shaving Is Science is essentially trying to make a product look "sciency" as why you want it. Similar to the way you want food to look delicious. The manliness is most likely just part of Mother Nature, Father Science, it needn't be the least bit manly as long as it's sciency.

I was trying to do a metaphor; this trope is when a mundane product is comparably advanced as the Raptor.

I'm trying to figure out how the 2 tropes are different.

Here Comes the Science is a purely visual trope where something is shown in action with an almost entirely CG'd scene. For instance, a lot of medical anti-aging cream will be "all natural" and promote that angle instead of being sciency and artificial, but will still have a scene showing the cream dissolving wrinkles and cleaning pores and what not.

Which would make Pain Center a subtrope of Here Comes the Science in that case.

I'm starting to wonder, by the way, if we need a Special Efforts thread (or just a single TRS thread, for that matter) for the Advertising Tropes. It seems like several of them are related to each other in non-trivial ways no one's really explored previously, and on top of that, several of the examples could stand to tone down the natter and sarcasm a bit.

Yeah, most likely.

Edit: is everyone okay with this rewrite.

edited 21st Apr '12 12:36:52 AM by Deboss

Yep. Swap time, I say.

I'm okay. I have something: what about products where this trope is true? Two sections: One for claims that are true, and one for claims that are not.

Well P&G claims to have spent a few billion researching the Fusion. (YMMV on whether that was money well spent. A lot of us find that more blades equals more irritation.) Determining how much science went into a product is a quick way to kick up a whole bunch of natter. The trope isn't whether actual science went into the product, but how it's advertised.

ETA: I think we should go to YKTTW to get some non-shaving examples.

edited 22nd Apr '12 8:40:51 AM by reub2000

"True vs false" seems like a difficult / nattery distinction.

What's the status here?

So what's going on here?

Looks like there's no interest in doing this. Locking.