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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Jan 4th 2012 at 8:59:56 AM

This article has a really obscure name that is from a work unrelated to the context the trope usually appears in. The fact that the name is bad is evidence by the low usage: It has only 17 wicks and 5 inbounds. This is a fairly common sitcom plot that should have more usage but the name is holding it back.

There's also the factor of the recently launched trope Gift-Giving Gaffe that has a name that could cover this trope but it is about two other varients of problematic gift giving not covered by The Zotz, and I'm not sure they should be separate tropes. If we keep them a separate tropes, we need trope names that differentiate the two so people don't confuse them.

edited 4th Jan '12 9:00:47 AM by djbj

nman Since: Mar, 2010
#2: Jan 4th 2012 at 10:47:48 AM

Gift-Giving Gaffe is pretty different from The Zotz (the former is just the action of giving a bad gift, the latter is a whole story about someone not wanting to say that the gift is bad, and the shenanigans that go on afterwards, such as trying to destroy it, etc.), but I agree the name is not good. The article says zotz means "unwanted gift", so perhaps "Unwanted Gift Plot"?

OftenPartisan Often Partisan Since: Jul, 2011
Often Partisan
#3: Jan 4th 2012 at 11:00:31 AM

Totally support a rename it's an awful title and from the title alone I would have guessed some sort of alien character trope. So fails Guess That Trope for me.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#4: Jan 4th 2012 at 11:05:00 AM

The Zotz is more than just an unwanted gift, though. The trope is that it's "an unwanted gift that the recipient pretends to like in order to be polite, then can't get rid of because of that pretense."

It's the last two thirds of that description that makes it different from a plain Unwanted Gift or Gift-Giving Gaffe.

It also appears that we may have an instance of Missing Supertrope Syndrome going on here, as well, and Gift-Giving Gaffe could be what needs to go in that hole, with the subtropes The Zotz (recipient pretends to like the unwanted gift, then has to keep it because their pretense was too good); Convenience Store Gift Shopping (Giver gives a pointless, silly of unwanted gift because they had to buy it at the last minute at a gas station or convenience store); My New Gift Is Lame (one gift out of those given to a group of people is markedly less appropriate/expensive/whatever than the others; and possibly a couple of others that I can't find or think of right now.

edited 4th Jan '12 11:15:48 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#5: Jan 4th 2012 at 1:21:00 PM

Yeah, I can support a rename here. We could always fall back on something like Unwanted Gift Plot, I dunno. *shrug*

Rhymes with "Protracted."
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#6: Jan 4th 2012 at 3:06:30 PM

That's a baaaaaad name, all right.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Jan 5th 2012 at 7:53:55 AM

Concur with the rename.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#8: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:50:37 AM

Ah yes, a "The [Trope Namer]" title. Always fun. Hard to encapsulate the entire trope in a short, pithy title, though.

Jhimmibhob from Where the tea is sweet, and the cornbread ain't Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: My own grandpa
#9: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:54:44 AM

How about "The 'Grateful' Recipient"?

Could also go with "Shilling the Awkward Gift." Not very catchy, but it seems pretty unambiguous.

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Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#11: Jan 5th 2012 at 12:04:41 PM

How about Stuck With The Unwanted Gift?

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#14: Jan 7th 2012 at 9:01:32 AM

As requested, there is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#16: Jan 7th 2012 at 6:12:05 PM

17 wicks in over a year.....yikes. Rename is definitely in order.

Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
That One Guy
#17: Jan 7th 2012 at 6:14:51 PM

Hence why we have a pretty quick consensus.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#18: Jan 7th 2012 at 6:18:06 PM

Unwelcome Gift?

Don't think the word "plot" needs to be in the title, even if that's part of the meaning.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#20: Jan 8th 2012 at 6:18:05 AM

But it's more than just an Unwelcome Gift. It's when the plot of the episode, show, work, whatever, revolves around the recipient not being able to get rid of the gift because they made such a good pretense of liking it. Unwelcome Gift is misleading in that there's nothing to indicate there's tighter limits on the trope than simply "one person gives someone else a gift they don't like." That's the missing supertrope. This is a specific subtrope.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#22: Jan 8th 2012 at 4:21:41 PM

I understand that "it's a kind of plot" is critical to the definition, but I don't think the word "plot" is critical to the title.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#23: Jan 8th 2012 at 6:47:36 PM

Not the word "plot" necessarily, but it needs to be more specific than simply Unwanted Gift. That can cover Convenience Store Gift Shopping, Gift-Giving Gaffe, Homemade Sweater from Hell, and My New Gift Is Lame. At least those four; there may be more that I didn't find in my (admittedly quick) search.

edited 8th Jan '12 6:47:48 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#24: Jan 8th 2012 at 6:50:00 PM

Ah, maybe it is the scansion I am reacting to. Unwanted Gift Story?

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001

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