Mind including the "what's a good name for this?" thread in there somewhere? It cuts down on a lot of pointless threads for one-off name questions.
For the rain it raineth every day.All right. I'll do revisions a little later, once I get my personal laptop back.
But do you think we should pin it then?
I also support having a "Writer's Work" subfourm.
Writer's Work idea thread here.
However, I'll need someone to explain it more clearly. Fast Eddie isn't getting what I'm talking about.
BUMP. Any other ideas?
edited 22nd Dec '11 3:02:08 PM by chihuahua0
Okay, I did a revision. It's minor, really:
Here, you can talk about being a writer, talk about and post your story, critique other stories, ask questions, discuss the craft—in short, discuss writing in general from a writer's perspective.
If you want to show elements of your setting, you can use Writer's Block's sister sub-forum, Worldbuilding.
Rules:
- Be polite, friendly and encouraging.
- Discussion and critique is encouraged, but never make it personal, stick to the topic or piece of work at hand. Conversely, be objective about a subject of your work, a mere expression of dislike or disagreement on a topic is not reflective of that person's opinion of you.
- Where necessary agree to disagree to keep the peace. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
- We are loose about brief thread derails, but if a topic seems to be garnering a lot of discussion, please move that discussion to a new thread so the old thread can get back on track.
General Discussion Threads:
- Writer's Block Daily: The most permanent and prominent discussion thread in Writer's Block. Updates about your writing can go here, although minor derails about writing are allowed and encouraged.
- Random Questions Thread: Have a question that you don't think deserves its own thread and Google isn't spitting out an answer? This is the place.
- General Writer's Block Thread: The darkhorse of the bunch. It serves the purpose of the former two, but with looser rules.
- The "What's a good name for this?" thread: Not a pinned thread, but if you need a good name for your character/setting/MacGuffin/etc, this is the place.
Critique Threads:
- Troper Critique Thread: Want a critique as soon as possible and not concerned with quality? Drop your story here. Critiques aren't guaranteed, but this thread is good for short pieces.
- Uncle Drunkie's Writer/Critic Dating Service: Want a beta reader for your longer piece? Write up a ad, and wait for a PM to arrive in your Mailbox. Someone is sure to be interested in your work.
Other Threads with Wiki Pages:
- Character Development Thread: This is a closed-setting free-form shared-story thread where your character can interact with other characters within a loose set of rules. No sign-up, no GM, just drop in.
- The Fear Mythos: A collaborative Alternate Reality Game spanning dozen of blogs. The mythos is centered around "Fears", Eldritch Abominations that will never die.
- TV Tropes Writing Contests: Held periodically, these contests are based around submitting short stories based on a theme. Judges volunteer themselves off the forum. Reward? Bragging rights (and possibly a t-shirt).
Anything else before I create the thread "About Writer's Block" and request a pin?
edited 23rd Dec '11 9:14:33 AM by chihuahua0
Were we going to make it a rule not to post threads that are just 'gush about your story!' or are we letting those stay?
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)I think there should be only a "Gush your Story Excerpts here" thread, pinned.
edited 23rd Dec '11 7:12:29 PM by QQQQQ
Yeah, if we had like one place to do it to concentrate all of that there.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)Made some edits, mostly for aesthetic reasons and typos. I will explain my choices if you want me to.
Here, you can talk about being a writer, talk about and post your story, critique other stories, ask questions, discuss the craft—- in short, discuss writing in general from a writer's perspective. If you want to show elements of your setting, you can use Writer's Block's sister sub-forum, World Building.
Suggested Guidelines for Maximum Enjoyment:
- Be polite, friendly and encouraging. Things we frown upon here are cockiness, dismissing legitimate criticism (feel free to ask for second opinions via private messaging), and general dickery.
- Discussion and critique is encouraged, but never make it personal: stick to the topic or piece of work at hand. Therefore, don't take comments on your work personally. A mere expression of dislike or disagreement on a topic is not reflective of that person's opinion of you.
- When necessary, agree to disagree to keep the peace. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
- We are loose about brief thread derails, but if a topic seems to be garnering a lot of discussion, please move that discussion to a new thread so the old thread can get back on track.
General Discussion Threads:
- Writer's Block Daily: The most prominent discussion thread in Writer's Block. Updates about your writing can go here, although minor derails about writing are allowed and encouraged.
- Random Questions Thread: Have a question that you don't think deserves its own thread and Google isn't spitting out an answer? This is the place.
- General Writer's Block Thread: The darkhorse of the bunch. It serves the purpose of the former two, especially Random Questions, but with looser rules and is usually meant for questions that don't have a clear-cut answer but don't seem "big" enough for their own thread.
- The "What's a good name for this?" thread: Not a pinned thread, but if you need a good name for your character/setting/MacGuffin/etc, this is the place.
Critique Threads:
- Troper Critique Thread: Want a critique as soon as possible? Drop your story here. Critiques aren't guaranteed, but this thread is good for short pieces. Be warned: Fanfics are less likely to get critiques than original works, because you'll have to wait for someone familiar with the canon.
- "See if the above poster hooked you" Thread: If you're looking for feedback on the so-called "hook" of your piece, deposit it here. Critiques are generally less detailed and concentrate more on the hook aspect of the excerpt than those in the Troper Critique Club. This thread is not pinned.
- Uncle Drunkie's Writer/Critic Dating Service: Want a beta reader for your longer piece? Write up an ad, and wait for a PM to arrive. Someone is sure to be interested in your work.
Troper Group Projects with Wiki Pages:
- Character Development Thread: This is a closed-setting free-form shared-story thread where your character can interact with other characters within a loose set of rules. No sign-up, no GM, just drop in. OOC chatter goes in its disscussion thread.
- The Fear Mythos: A collaborative Alternate Reality Game spanning dozen of blogs. The mythos is centered around "Fears," Eldritch Abominations that will never die.
- TV Tropes Writing Contests: These periodically held, anonymous contests give you a theme to base a short story on. Judges volunteer themselves off the forum. Reward? Bragging rights (and possibly a t-shirt).
edited 25th Dec '11 3:29:24 PM by SnowyFoxes
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!My experiences from poor quality criticism have led me to take you on that point. Just because you're able to offer a critique doesn't entitle you to treat the writer like some pushover.
edited 25th Dec '11 11:14:56 AM by QQQQQ
Okay. I edited it.
I meant "refusal to accept criticism, period."
edited 25th Dec '11 11:19:30 AM by SnowyFoxes
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!Well, what is 'legitimate' criticism? I've had a spammer try to contest me on this point, giving me irrelevant critiques.
edited 25th Dec '11 11:23:24 AM by QQQQQ
To me, a criticism is legitimate if it has the following qualities:
- The critic explained why they drew those conclusions about your work. If not, they were willing to go in more detail if you asked them to. This is somewhat related to the last item of this list.
- The critique focused on the work, not you as a writer. Yes, there is a difference between giving a negative opinion on your writing style and you as a person.
- The critic can back up their words with excerpts from your work.
Again, asking for a second opinion about a critique or the work itself (preferably through PMs if it's the former) is a good option if you're not sure.
edited 25th Dec '11 11:30:45 AM by SnowyFoxes
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!I believe it was Aristotle who said something about how mature minds can entertain notions without adopting them. He was right, and this affects criticism as well. There's a big gulf between "I accept your opinion" and "your opinion is better than mine and I will alter my work accordingly".
Accepting criticism is as simple as saying to the person, "thanks for your ideas, I'll mull them over". You've just accepted the idea and are under no obligation to do anything with it. This is polite.
Refusal to do this is immature. If the criticism itself is pointless or insulting ("your work sux bro"), then that person is being a dick which is also against the rules.
Now, how to sum this up...
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~Changed the wording there. Does that help?
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!Okay. We should get that pinned up soon. This evening?
Post #36 as it stands now? If it's ready to go, I'll copy it into a new thread as the OP and pin it, then lock it so that the OP doesn't get lost in conversation.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Just made a few tweaks. It should be good now.
The last battle's curtains will open on stage!Okay, since it's now up, should we lock this thread?
Thank you, Madrugada, and Merry Christmas.
edited 25th Dec '11 7:39:05 PM by chihuahua0
Post #36 as it stood about 3 minutes ago has been copied into the thread "About Writer's Block: What's What and What Goes Where", which has been pinned and locked.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
I'll propose it.