General Star Wars Thread

I like Daine Jir, aka that Imperial officer at the beginning of A New Hope who thinks Darth Vader is making a big mistake by taking Princess Leia prisoner. Because he's the only person who mouths off to Darth Vader and gets away with it.

Also a big fan of Shaak Ti, but mainly because of her expanded role in the Clone Wars miniseries. So I don't know if that counts.

For the OT my favorite minor character is Bossk, even though he is fleshed out a bit more in EU stuff. I really hope he managed to escape Jabba's sail barge in Canon. I also liked Piett, the Max Rebo band, and Malakili. In the PT , I was always fascinated by Mas Amedda and Sly Moore because they were aliens serving Palpatine and they were always somewhat mysterious. Although Amedda did get more to do in Aftermath which I really liked.

edited 15th Jan '18 9:46:48 AM by TommyFresh

I always liked Bail Organa, even with his bit parts. From what we see elsewhere, he had to die, because he was too damn competent-Hoth was a disaster that may not have happened without his absence, which in turn set up ROTJ. The OT likely would have been very different with his leadership.

Also, Bail saved Yoda and Obi-wan, smuggled them to Coruscant, helped them get into the Jedi Temple, and after learning Palpatine was Sidious, personally served as Yoda's wheelman during the assassination attempt. After that goes sideways, he smuggles the Jedi masters to the Outer Rim, serving as their Secret-Keeper while adopting Leia. Then, he goes back to Coruscant to the Senate, and immediately begins building fleets and armies for an armed rebellion while spending the next 19 years sitting in the Senate; lying to the face of the most powerful person in the Galaxy, whom Bail knows is a Dark Lord of the Sith who can read minds and see the future.

Makes me wonder how the Rebel Alliance would have been if Padme hadn't died.

Wait, what about Hoth wouldn’t have happened if Bail had been alive? I don’t see what he could have done to make things go better than they did.

In Legends, Luke stumbled across Hoth during a mission-the location was good, close to major Hyperspace lanes along a forgotten backwater-but the location was bracketed by major routes controlled by the Empire. Good for raiding, but could be easily blockaded if discovered. Bail was in charge of setting up bases, and kept locations close to the vest-several premiere locations were lost with his death, and the Rebels settled for what was available. Because of the Battle of Hoth destroying so much of the fleet, the Rebels were desperate enough to commit everything to Endor, falling into Sidious' trap; while that worked out for the best, it likely would not have happened without the catastrophic casualties at Hoth, and that may well have not happened if the Rebels had a safer base location they could have evacuated more ably.

More spitballing than anything, but Mon Motha seems to have been Bail's lesser half of the Rebellion-most of what we see that works was put into play by Bail himself or his handpicked agents, while Mon acts as a bureaucrat and bookkeeper.

edited 15th Jan '18 10:33:26 AM by ViperMagnum357

The Alliance didn't actually lose many fleet resources at Hoth — the evacuation was for their ground army. The canon description has them losing transports, but devoting no battleships or destroyers.

They lost 23 of 36 transports, not counting damage-combined with what they lost at Echo base and elsewhere with the Imperial counterattack, what they had at Endor was most of their fleet-not much. The big loss was most of their ground forces and accumulated war materiel-they got away little more than the proverbial shirts on their backs, losing their supplies and stockpiles of almost everything. The fleet was pretty much all they had left by Endor-most of their ground forces and smaller ships were either destroyed in the assault on the Fondor Shipyards, or scattered across the Galaxy to draw away Imperial forces, like around Sullust. At least in Legends, Endor was all or nothing because the Rebels were on the ropes after Hoth.

edited 15th Jan '18 11:54:20 AM by ViperMagnum357

They had literally none of their capital ships at Hoth, and they lost 17 of 30 transports. The canon Wookieepedia article establishes that they suffered mostly losses in materiel, but few casualties. Besides, if they really had no fleet, there's simply no way they could have gone from nothing to beating the Empire underfoot at Jakku in a year and a half.

I wonder if the Inquisitors were still around by the time of ROTJ.

Huh, they have not recanonized the rest of the ships yet-in Legends, the Rebels had 36 transports, and lost 23. I guess 17 of 30 is less devastating.

edited 15th Jan '18 12:01:52 PM by ViperMagnum357

My favorite is Wedge Antilles hands down... which makes me pretty fucking upset at how Chuck Wendig's Aftermath Trilogy treated him.

I like a good many minor characters though if I had to pick a favorite it would probably be Admiral Ackbar, Mon Mothma, or Bail Organa. I'm really fond of the Alliance leadership.

Everything about Chuck Wendig's trilogy makes me upset.

I know he's not exactly a minor character but Pong Krell has a spot in my heart for being a four-armed Jedi Master duel wielding saberstaff's.

That is so outrageously awesome.

@Slimcoder: I don’t think it’s been said explicitly, but I believe the implication is that Inquisitorius is finished off by the time ANH takes place.

I like the Death Stick guy. He did the sick spin before Nines did.

"The acting coach thing is a prime example of what I'm talking about, given that it's textbook case of cultivating negative press and free publicity out of nothing. "

edited 15th Jan '18 4:32:20 PM by AnotherGuy

A more relevant thing to quote would've been this:

Seriously, it's not something that needs to be made an issue. Especially if you're going to be bumping dead conversations to do it.

I still think Krell would've been even better if the reveal hadn't been "I want to join the Sith, nyahaha!" but instead that he legitimately was a Jedi who had been made more bloodthirsty during the war and looked down on the Clones as lesser life forms, as it would've given more flavor to the overall theme of the war corrupting the Jedi.

Not that it keeps Krell from having some of the best villainous lines of the series. Dave Fennoy rocks.

Speaking of corrupted Jedi, does Barriss count as a "minor character," because she's one of my favorites as well, and I've always been a bit sad we never got that followup to her Knight Templar-turn Filoni promised us (The Seventh Sister is explicitly not her).

edited 15th Jan '18 6:35:49 PM by KnownUnknown

We really don't have an exact fate for Barriss, do we? According to Wookieepedia there was a semi-canon webcomic of all things that listed her as an Order 66 victim, but this was overridden by TCW even before the reboot. If I were to just spitball a guess I'd probably say Sheev saw to it she had an "accident" up at the big house.

edited 15th Jan '18 6:44:58 PM by HamburgerTime

Word of God says she survived Order 66, at least, but Word of God can always be changed over time - and that way was back when Dave Filoni had plans to use her. Who knows, now?

edited 15th Jan '18 6:47:46 PM by KnownUnknown

Well she was a major enough character that I don't think they'll off-screen kill her off just like that.

Quinlan Vos for one is still alive according to the current Darth Vader comic.

They'll prolly save her for something major in a future show, comic, or novel as well as most likely involving Ahsoka & Vader.

edited 15th Jan '18 7:43:18 PM by slimcoder

Funny, isn't it? The Empire expended an extraordinary amount of time and resources to hunt down and exterminate every last Jedi alive... and yet there seem to be a fair number of ex-Jedi running around out there, who somehow get overlooked or left alone. How exactly does that work?

Imperial Inquisitor: "Die, Jedi scum!"

Jedi: "Wait! I quit the Jedi Order!" (throws away lightsaber)

Inquisitor: "Umm, okay then. Have a nice day, Citizen."

edited 15th Jan '18 8:03:23 PM by pwiegle

Man, how many Order 66 survivors were there?

...66?