Without Word of God that's just gonna devolved into useless speculation and a lot of Armchair CEO type examples. If we do turn this into a trope, I'd rather it be Advertising Trope.
Hmmm...given that no matter what, people are going to be adding examples just because they personally consider something one, should this get an Example Sectionectomy?
Infinite Tree: an experimental storyWe might as well just get rid of the page if we're gonna do an Example Sectionectomy. I don't really see the point in keeping a page that's just going to be (and currently is) a window for tropers to make baseless claims.
edited 14th Dec '11 1:47:29 PM by captainpat
Just stumbled on this article, and linked to this discussion. I agree with captainpat, it isn't a trope. I say cut it. I'm sure that surprises a lot of people.
"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.Would it be worth it to make a page action crowner with "repurpose into an advertising trope," "expand the trope to all types of media, but require proof from work creators," and "cut" options?
I understand that page action crowners are kind of discouraged these days, but I am not sure that a single proposition one with only a cut option would satisfy most people.
Anyway, ideas about where to go with this are definitely appreciated.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 dCutting something with almost 1000 inbounds? No, definitively a bad idea.
Anyway, if there's more than one option for the page, ya need a Page Action crowner.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'm opposed to the idea that we aren't allowed to make reasonable guesses about the motivation behind companies' and creators' actions without having a direct psychic link to their brains.
More to the point, if there's widespread speculation that a company has been using a game's mature content for marketing, I think that in itself is an interesting fact to note, whether it's true or not in that specific case. The description says, "today there is a public perception that developers focus solely on extremely violent titles targeted at "hardcore" gamers (that is, those who believe "G" rated movies and "E" rated games are "for kids only"), because hardcore gamers are supposed to be the most profitable demographic." It seems to me the page is more about peoples' reactions to, and perceptions of, the behaviour of companies, and no claim of behind-the-scenes knowledge is needed for that. That makes it at least an audience reaction trope.
More generally, I think creating a work with mature content specifically to get attention from a particular audience is a valid trope. Story-telling devices (like the explicit display of excessive violence) inserted into a work to appeal to a particular audience are still tropes.
I'm ok with making this an Audience Reaction.
I want to keep this, and I think making it Audience Reaction is a great way to do that.
Blue Pacific, signing off...There is now a page action crowner for this trope here. It includes an Audience Reaction option, but you can feel free to add other options as you see fit.
Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 988 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.
Crowner is now affixed to the thread.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Bumping for more votes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanCalling the crowner in favor of making this an Audience Reaction.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Added it to Audience Reactions, but I am not good at writing descriptions. So if we have to rewrite the description, someone more experienced than me will have to do it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanBump and question: What is the definition of this now-Audience Reaction? I was thinking of something like either "It sells for being high-rated" or "The rating was raised to attract customers"
If the current def on the page is to stay, we should be able to close this.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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What would be the best way to fix the page?
A good trope that could be made of this is the meta-Show Business one of promoters ostentatiously marketing their entertainments strictly for "mature audiences" because they know it's what sells tickets, especially if they're not actually strict about enforcing the provision.