Person Of Interest

Well, that's a hell of a Downer Ending.

Indeed it was. Hell of a bold move on the part of the producers, too.

Should have killed the senator.

A... curious recap of the season finale:

It's official. Season 3 is the most depressing season.

But also an insanely gripping one.

and

Agreed!

A Downer Ending for the whole season.

Season 4 is going to start on a very uncomfortable note.

Grandpa and I watch the show together. He was so disappointed that they did't get "that asshole" (Greer) that he's not going to watch anymore.

But god damn, wasn't Implacable Bob truly implacable in this one.

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a season finale.

Downer, but in the most awesome way. Cannot wait until season 4.

So what Greer wants is to become the Oracle of Delphi ? That's why I love, love, love this show. If you had suggested that six episodes ago, I'd have... well, I'd listen politely (that's how my mommy panda raised me), but I'd have disregarded it. But they make it work.

Had a feeling that Greer ran Vigilance but put it down to paranoia. I mean he couldn't be behind EVERYTHING. Oh wait. He can. That guy was insanely dangerous BEFORE Samaritan came online. Did notice that at the end, when John rescued Finch and was exchanging gunfire with Decima, Greer was just strolling away. Not just Bob who's implacable

Still think the situation will eventually resolve with the Neuromancer ending. The Machine and Samaritan will absorb each other can become something... else. That or the next season will be the Machine attempting to teach it morality. Hey, Root was a beta test !

edited 14th May '14 3:25:34 PM by Anteres

Well. That's a way of finishing a season, all right.

So...does anyone think that the fourth season will be the last one?

I wouldn't be surprised, there's plenty of ways to end it in play, but I hope not.

It's just that from the look of it, Greer had them cornered pretty badly, I can't really imagine Team Machine evading him for a whole season.

Hmm...who knows, given this series' popularity, it might go up to season 5. If so, I imagine that season 4 would involve Team Machine getting back together and prepare for the final battle with Greer, with Season 5 being one long final battle and conclusion.

On the story of Padora's box, I remember reading somewhere (maybe this very site) that Hope was at the bottom of the box (jar) because it was the worst affliction of all. I think we can just put that down to Ancient Greeks being depressing

Come to think of it, the series does like Greek motifs.

Greer has finally exposed a weak-point though. He's submitting to Samaritan. That's why I think the plan of attack will be altering how Samaritan thinks, to make it "Good", or at least distant, like the Machine. Assimilation or education

Hmm...what if Greer tries to assimilate his mind with Samaritan?

Maybe that's outside the plausible realm of this series' setting.

Don't think its his style either. He wants a machine to rule the world; he's no faith in humans. I suspect he would include himself, though anything's possible. I'd have been surprised by this turn of events when Ellis was the greatest danger Team Machine faced.

@ Re Pandora's Box: I'll just keep it brief and say that there's really no two versions of the story that agree with one another. It's... complicated.

Then again, so are the implications behind the finale, so it might fit anyway in a roundabout sort of way

Hmm...is there any way Elias can get into the story now?

I'd find interesting if the season 4 opening scene was Decima goons swiftly dismantling Elias and his entire crew.

Then a english-accented old man voice-over begins to speak: "You are being watched. We have a secret system, a good Samaritan that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because...I built it.

The Samaritan has been designed to detect acts of terror, but it sees everything. Unacceptable behavior involving ordinary people, people like you.

Behaviors the government considered...irrelevant. I don't. They wouldn't act so I decided that I would.

In charge of the authorities, we work in secret. You'll never find us, but victim or perpetrator, if you are a threat, we'll find you."

Or something of the sort. Point is, we need a Samaritan-opening.

YES. Something like that, but a bit more sinister.

Anything said by Greer is automatically sinister.

I was actually thinking of the people who aren't in the show anymore. Elias, Zoe, Carter, everyone to do with HR. Sure, most of them are dead, but it seems so long ago and it was only this season.

Next season will end with Root having to upload John into the mothership's computer after his power core is damaged while Lionel and Shaw are trapped in the Otherverse, trying to find the Wizard Jo'na'than No Lan to save Clauldette from the orges. Finch, meanwhile is in 18th century France, chasing the serial killing known as the "Time Ender". Only on CBS

On the one hand, I'm sure you meant "serial killer," but on the other hand I'm having immense fun imagining Finch becoming powerful enough with his mastery of information to confront and manipulate Platonic ideal forms directly.

That sounds even better ! Let's run with that.

Interesting interview with the showrunners is up on io9 - http://io9.com/person-of-interests-creators-had-to-fight-for-the-show-1577050140, with an unabridged version here: http://observationdeck.io9.com/person-of-interest-the-complete-unedited-interview-1577052827

Highlights:

>If given the opportunity, the show will probably finish with season 5.

>The question of what alterations Greer made to Samaritan's code will be a major one in season 4.

>They intend to circle back down to some of the city politics/police stuff as well as the Samaritan plot.

>Hints that it won't be as simple as Machine = good, Samaritan = bad.

>They had to fight with executives to get the Machine/AI on the show from the beginning.

>And of course, the numbers never stop coming.

edited 15th May '14 2:57:25 PM by Ishindri