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ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#1: Sep 12th 2011 at 7:15:39 PM

As in, all of the characters from both sides are genuinely good and selfless people at heart, but are pitched against each other because of circumstances well beyond their control?

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#2: Sep 12th 2011 at 7:18:23 PM

Depends on how you define good.

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#3: Sep 12th 2011 at 7:19:05 PM

They can both be good at heart, they just have no not know that their opposition is. Circumstances could conspire to hide this fact from them.

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#5: Sep 12th 2011 at 7:25:46 PM

That's kind of how the Honor Harrington books between Ashes of Victory and At All Costs feel. It's actually really, really frustrating, watching these good, sympathetic characters who only a few books ago we were all rooting for against the CPS killing each other.

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#6: Sep 12th 2011 at 7:41:51 PM

It also reminds me of the latter half of Onani Master Kurosawa. And drawing from that, some romance stories where two generally good people are in a Love Triangle for another good person.

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#7: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:36:46 PM

Anything is possible in fiction. The real question is, is it possible to do well?

I would say no, but that's just because White And White Morality, Black-and-White Morality, and anything else involving White morality generally is going to annoy me...

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#8: Sep 14th 2011 at 9:17:54 PM

You might want to take a look at Dog Days, which is pretty much entirely this trope.

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#9: Sep 14th 2011 at 9:26:55 PM

Yes. However, unless you are writing a heavily diplomatic and dialogue-focused story, it is hard to pull off because of the lack of suspense and tension.

The best example I can think of would be Princess Mononoke.

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#10: Sep 14th 2011 at 9:58:49 PM

It's hard when we're talking about wars or the kind of fights where people get killed in general...

However, I'm guessing it would be pretty simple to pull off if your conflict revolves around sports, battles of the bands, racing, cooking contests, academic competitions, martial arts tournaments, gaming contests, etc.

Or if your story's just a Slice of Life.

Now, whether it would be easy is another matter. Even stories without violence usually resort to the "make one side a dick" card whenever they need some extra drama. (e.g.: Reality Shows.)

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#11: Sep 14th 2011 at 11:18:58 PM

[up] True. I think Eyeshield21 did good job of showing that how all the teams, including the opposing teams, had a good reason to win and how all of them worked hard to achieve their goals. Because of that, you really can't help but feeling sorry even if the protagonists win.

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#12: Sep 15th 2011 at 12:11:44 AM

you really can't help but feeling sorry even if the protagonists win.

Which is arguably one of the main reasons why the Opposing Sports Team tends to be demonized so often.

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