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HiddenFacedMatt Avatars may be subject to change without notice. Since: Jul, 2011
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#1: Sep 9th 2011 at 10:22:21 AM

Bill Watterson is more so parodying this kind of thinking than promoting it. I'm not sure what else to suggest, but I'd rather it be imageless than have this kind of non-example for a page image.

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#2: Sep 9th 2011 at 3:46:12 PM

Parodies are still examples. Just because the author doesn't agree with it doesn't mean it isn't an example.

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#3: Sep 9th 2011 at 9:59:23 PM

I'm not sure how it's a nonexample. It's just a parody there of. Since it's a YMMV page, it's probably for the best that we have some kind of parody.

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#4: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:38:59 AM

Picture is perfect.

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#5: Sep 10th 2011 at 7:25:19 AM

I think the current picture is fine. It's just showing an in-universe example.

edited 10th Sep '11 7:25:36 AM by JapaneseTeeth

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#6: Sep 11th 2011 at 9:16:22 PM

I'm good with the current pic.

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#7: Sep 13th 2011 at 2:34:20 PM

Parodies are still examples. Just because the author doesn't agree with it doesn't mean it isn't an example.
Uh, doesn`t this trope refer by definition to the message of the work itself?

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#9: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:31:43 PM

Uh, doesn`t this trope refer by definition to the message of the work itself?

Yes, but it's not limited to unintentional examples. It's not a Bad Writing trope. For example, Democracy Is Bad is a stock Family-Unfriendly Aesop, and is almost always done intentionally.

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#10: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:51:27 PM

[up] I wasn`t saying it was for unintentional aesops; on the contrary, I was referring to aesops deliberately done by the work itself.

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#11: Sep 13th 2011 at 5:46:23 PM

All it means is that the example is occurring in-universe rather than in Real Life.

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#12: Sep 19th 2011 at 9:57:59 PM

I dunno if this would work, but the Designated Hero team of the new show Redakai(a kid's show) lynch a guy at the end of episode 7. They strap him to a pterodactyl with a twenty-foot rope and let it drag him through the sky like he was being dragged by a truck. I can think of few things family unfriendlier.

Then again, Lynching in general is just poor taste, so the current image is fine.

edited 19th Sep '11 10:03:14 PM by Kohdok

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#14: Sep 19th 2011 at 10:35:41 PM

True, the big moral of the episode has to do with trust and betrayal, but the lynching is the retribution for said betrayal, making it tie right in. Calling the authorities is even given as an option that is ignored by the heroes in favor of stringing him to a fast-moving animal. "If someone betrays you and threatens your life, don't call the feds, lynch the guy!"

edited 19th Sep '11 10:37:34 PM by Kohdok

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#16: Sep 19th 2011 at 10:50:11 PM

How's this?

"Lynching: one of the many "hilarious" ways Team Stax solves their problems."

edited 19th Sep '11 10:51:08 PM by Kohdok

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#17: Sep 19th 2011 at 10:56:05 PM

Actually, This One might be better. Look at how much fun Mookie is having riding that OH DEAR GOD HE'S DRAGGING THAT MAN LIKE HE WAS STRAPPED TO A TRUCK!! These two frames are literally about a second apart. The Family-Unfriendly Aesop about it being treated as appropriate retribution can be explained in the examples section.

edited 19th Sep '11 11:08:56 PM by Kohdok

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#18: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:07:38 PM

Do keep in mind that being an example is not as important as showing the trope. Particularly if the reader hasn't consumed the work themselves.

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#19: Sep 19th 2011 at 11:10:06 PM

Well, the goofy-looking Mookie seems to be having a lot of fun while he drags the guy behind him in the second image I posted. If that's not endorsement, I don't know what is. That, and I think (and hope) that your average Joe knows that lynching is wrong.

I could push in on Mookie to show his mirth better, if you want.

EDIT: Like this?

edited 19th Sep '11 11:32:54 PM by Kohdok

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#20: Oct 3rd 2011 at 3:09:08 PM

fine with current image

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#21: Oct 3rd 2011 at 5:39:16 PM

[up][up]Having a work portraying something doesn't mean that the work automatically endorses it. And it doesn't really look like a lynching anyway.

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#22: Oct 3rd 2011 at 5:58:19 PM

I'm not seeing a problem with the current image.

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#23: Oct 12th 2011 at 3:38:39 PM

For an alternative, how about this cover for a recent issue of TIME? Parental favoritism is a pretty touchy subject, and many parents guilty of it tend to be in denial; so outright saying things like "mom liked you best" is pretty family-unfriendly.

edited 12th Oct '11 3:39:06 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#25: Oct 12th 2011 at 5:21:57 PM

I don't know...I don't really have much of a problem with the current picture.

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