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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
I would love them to do Starfox (Eros) perhaps to get more backstory of Thanos and maybe kick an ass or two.
edited 24th Jul '16 10:57:50 AM by 123tbones
Queen of Good Things, Honest
It's part and parcel of the archetype. The arrogant quarterback is typically depicted as the male equivalent of the Alpha Bitch, surrounded by a fawning crowd of sycophants who hang on his every word, adored by everyone despite his toxic, constantly hostile attitude, and only the poor, downtrodden, victimized hero and maybe some friends are able to see through his popularity to the twisted individual within.
The point is, moving away from that archetype with Flash would probably be for the better. At the very least, giving him a bit more depth and complexity than his archetype usually has, since Comics Flash is a much stronger and more interesting character than his film and TV counterparts usually are.
Amazing did a pretty good job of making him at least 2-dimensional, though they still had everyone in the school hanging on his every word..
Frankly, characters like Flash's depictions in the 90's cartoon and the 2001 film are the reason I became a bully. It was, ironically, out of a fear of getting bullied like the nerds I see on TV and in movies all the time. I was the kid who thought Peter Parker should just kick Flash's ass, so that's the social image I aspired to build around myself whenever I felt threatened.
edited 24th Jul '16 11:00:49 AM by TobiasDrake
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Ideally I would see him characterized along the lines of the Jerk Jock character from Stranger Things. He's an asshole but he has sympathetic qualities and actual motivations for acting the way he does, and he undergoes a Character Arc and becomes less of an ass by the end.
He's not just an asshole because playing football and having friends makes you an asshole, as is the case in most teen fiction.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
That's basically what happened in the comics. Flash is an asshole because of his alcoholic, abusive father and the constant pressure and physical abuse heaped on him. He's crying out for stability, for some measure of control, to feel like he has power. Over time, he undergoes Character Development and he and Peter actually become decent friends in college.
Inspired by his hero, Spider-Man, Flash goes on to enlist in the U.S. Army and loses his legs in a selfless act of heroism during the Iraq War. And, well, now he's Agent Venom and it's awesome.
As a kid, I used to be so afraid of meeting people like Flash Thompson. Looking back, I wish I could have known more of his story then. He would have been a damn fine role model.
edited 24th Jul '16 11:16:01 AM by TobiasDrake
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And then he lost his memory and went back to his high school personality because comics books.
I'm so glad they still were able to bring Flash to a really good place characterization wise after that.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I would have been interested in seeing the Spectacular Spider-Man Flash become Agent Venom.
His character was moving in interesting directions by the end of the second season.
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Flash Thompson is actually one of the few characters in comics who got to grow up and change his personality. He went from a bully to a hero, basically, and it was all pretty well developed (bar a few amnesia storylines). It would be interesting, now that it seems they are giving the symbiote to someone else, to see what he does next (I think he's already gotten some leg prosthesis, so he can walk without the symbiote).
I also wonder if perhaps the MCU Flash will become the first Venom instead of Eddie Brock.
Marvel Cinematic Multiverse starts with Doctor Strange according to director
Sony and Fox are working together. Imagine the possibilities!
Will the other parallel dimensions get their own number signifiers? Also this could lead to a lot of problems with keeping the universe coherent, especially if it involves Death Is Cheap and The Other Darrin.
It's part and parcel of the archetype. The arrogant quarterback is typically depicted as the male equivalent of the Alpha Bitch, surrounded by a fawning crowd of sycophants who hang on his every word, adored by everyone despite his toxic, constantly hostile attitude, and only the poor, downtrodden, victimized hero and maybe some friends are able to see through his popularity to the twisted individual within.
Personally, I'd say they should go the Bulk and Skull route with Flash. He's a bully, but he's far too stupid to be a threat and all and is the Butt-Monkey.
Be more entertaining than the Sociopathic Jerkass he's usually depicted as.
edited 24th Jul '16 12:38:04 PM by Guy01
Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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Whats weird is that the popular kids in the original Spider-Man comics did try to make an effort to include Peter
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Where does it say anything about Fox working with Sony?
Some description of the Ragnarok concept art. Looks like Fenris was spotted, and they say Thor has a radical new look with shorter hair and no costume.
This is a title.
Bizarre Alien Biology. Pretty boy Loki's babymama gives birth to wolf child!
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
I meant that they are working together with Marvel.
Hmm, not seeing anything about Sony and Fox in that article, unless you mean Sony's Spider-Man deal and the tentative Marvel/Fox collaboration on a TV show.
Yes, I'm referring to that.
They should take advantage of this and make a Secret Wars movie. Avengers vs X-men, return of Raimi's Spider-man, and Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen would be amazing to see on screen.
edited 24th Jul '16 3:09:30 PM by ManOfSin
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
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...So, is this just the concept art, or is it the final version? Because I need to see blue Jeff Goldblum.
Oh God! Natural light!
Okay I laughed.
I hope none of these cool new villains were getting get killed off.
So...ego...the living planet...have a son.....
Ok, as DCCU fan, I imagine Warner saying "So, Marvel make one chararter being a son of a planet, how we up that?"
Anyway, so any conformation about the other infinity stones? I guess eye of Agamoto is time and Hel with have Spirit but Im not sure.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
I think Channing Tatum would have made a good Flash Thompson/Agent Venom. He's big and beefy, and he's got the perfect mix of douche-bro and earnestness.
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Ego doesn't socialize but does fraternize.
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