Some JAFAAC: Five Man Band

Okay, I'm not sure this will be a popular move, especially considering how big Star Wars is. And the Grandfather Clause is sort of in the way here. But some of these don't really demonstrate the trope. Let's start off with a brief look at each one:

• The Big Guy: Average. The guy's a big furry thing so it sorta demonstrates the trope, but we could do better.
• The Hero: This doesn't really show the trope. The dude doesn't look especially heroic in that picture, but I suspose his light-coloured clothes make him a bit heroic. If I wasn't versed in Star Wars, I might just think he was about to lop off someone's head or something with that lightsaber though.
• The Lancer: Terrible. Does not show the trope at all. This image does no demonstration of being the "right-hand man" or "foil" for The Hero.
• The Chick: Okay, she's a woman, which is a common element of the trope. And she has a dress and female-haircut, so sort of feminine. The blaster wrecks it, however. Still not great even if the blaster wasn't there.
• The Smart Guy: Okay, it's a robot. Robot's are usually associated with being smart, so I'll give it that. Otherwise, doesn't really demonstrate the trope.

edited 14th Jul '11 1:16:24 PM by MangaManiac

uhhh.... What pic???

I'm talking about the Five-Man Band tropes.

• The Big Guy
• The Smart Guy
• The Hero
• The Lancer
• The Chick

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

I would prefer having action poses of these five, i.e. showing them in a scene that better emphasises their role in the band. Also, I'm pretty sure that Threepio is the team pet, whereas Artoo is the Smart Guy; I'm not sure why that picture is showing both of them.

For example,

The Hero - Luke fighting that monster in Jabba's basement

The Lancer - Han arguing with Luke

The Big Guy - Chewy picking someone up and throwing him

The Smart Guy - Artoo hacking the elevator computer when rescuing Leia

The Chick - I'm actually having trouble finding a good scene here, but I'm sure there is one that doesn't make her the Damsel in Distress.

edited 14th Jul '11 2:48:28 PM by Spark9

That could work.

I'd say that Threepio does have some elements of The Smart Guy, or at least elements associated with The Smart Guy, even if he isn't an example.

I think most of those images are fine. The Lancer and Smart Guy are kinda iffy but everything else works pretty well. Besides, The Chick is usually equipped with a weak, long-range weapon like a bow-and-arrow or gun, so I don't think it wrecks it at all.

Otherwise the tropes are just too vague to actually have an image for them. The Hero is probably the hardest because you've got the original hero, the shounen hero, the sci-fi hero, the child hero... I mean, there's way too many possibilities.

edited 15th Jul '11 12:31:47 AM by HeavyDDR

I think R2 would work better as the The Smart Guy.

I can't remember, was The Chick similar to The Load or not? If so, I think 3PO would work best when he's tied to Chewies back.

I thought the band tropes went like this:

The Hero: Team, we must stop the Evil Overlord. The longer we wait, the more he kills.
The Lancer: I don't see why we should be in such a rush. It's important that we're properly ready.
The Smart Guy: I have statistical evidence that burning down that orphanage will result in 50% increase in chance of stopping the Evil Overlord. However, it will result in 99.999999999% loss of good PR.
The Chick: Wait, what? We're not burning down the orphanage. It's pretty much the epitome of wrong.
The Big Guy: We destroying the orphanage? Cool. [throws giant boulder at orphanage]

The Chick doesn't neccesarily have to be The Load.

edited 20th Jul '11 5:37:41 AM by MangaManiac

I still say we should never have switched from the color coded guys in helmets original image.

We could use indevidual pictures of the characters in Recess [1]◊. Being a cartoon it's more obvious than most. Or we could us Star Trek [2]◊.

I also think we should change the image on both Western Animation subpagees also. Some of us don't even know anything about Silver Hawks.

Just in case I wasn't clear: The Big Guy can be[1]◊ or [2]◊ The Smart Guy can be [3]◊ or [4]◊ The Chick can be [5]◊ or [6]◊ The Hero can be [7]◊ or [8]◊ The Lancer can be [9]◊ or [10]◊

Bump. Clock maybe?

I'd much prefer to leave the main page without a pic (or, at the very least, some kind of chart) and keep the pics on the medium-specific pages.

Honestly, I think C 3 P 0 would work better as The Chick. Before Leia is rescued in A New Hope, who does the crew comprise of? Luke, Han Solo, Chewwy, R2D2, C3P0 and Obi-Wan.

Let's see... I'd say:

• The Hero - Luke in any cool fight scene, really.
• The Lancer - Han being contrary to Luke/Leia.
• The Big Guy - Chewy throwing someone, of course.
• The Smart Guy - I actually put the current pic on the page... it's kind of hard to show.
• The Chick - Leia when she got shot in the arm in Return Of The Jedi maybe?

I would totally help get pictures, but I don't think I have the whole original trilogy on DVD, just VHS. (Yeah, elitism)

edited 17th Sep '11 7:01:04 PM by hotrods4ben

*COUGH*

edited 17th Sep '11 7:15:15 PM by Willbyr

No no, this is for the individual FMB trope pages, not the main FMB page.

Gotcha.

Bump...should we address these individually or all at once in here? There's a separate thread about The Smart Guy right now.

That would be a good idea.

While I love Star Wars, a lot of the current images are JAFAAC.

Seconding this motion, for one more reason in addition to everything said above - come on, the caption for The Chick outright admits that Leia isn't much of a fit for the trope!

I'm going to go ahead and lock this since there's no pic on the page anymore.