All Purpose Naruto Fanfiction Thread

Hm...that's a good idea. I can have the Inuzuka originally come from there and then form a large clan once they migrated to the Land of Fire to look more unified and stronger.

I also planned on having the Hyuuga Clan originate in the Land of Lightning, drift to Fire country and spit apart, and then reform into a clan once again some years before the first unified village. This would make Konoha's version the "new" Hyuga Clan, where the branch family and the seal were first established. It also gives a second explanation to why the Cloud Village wants the Byakugan. The founders remembered when the Hyuuga first lived there and wanted their bloodline back, but eventually expanded the power grab to other bloodlines.

Just because it's simple doesn't mean it's based on brute strength. In order to kick ass, you don't just need brute strength. Being skilled and intelligent also helps.

The complex structure of it is what I find unlikely. While, of course, I see there being different levels within the clan, I don't think they'd be as explicit as assigning different ranks. More like "That guy/gal kicks more ass than you, therefore, you defer to him/her", but not actually said, just an unspoken rule that their children pick up on. Making it a subtle, implicit rather than explicit rule also allows you to apply it to interactions outside the clan (which would be difficult with a clearly cut and defined hierarchy).

Ah, I get what you're saying. I guess I can make the lines between ranks murkier to make it less machine-like.

Recently read the latest chapter, Sasuke got the rinnegan while Naruto got more Senjutsu chakra and the ability to pull Yoton Rasenshuriken.

Also regarding the AU fic i am having problems making gaara turning sane, i dont remember exactly what Naruto did, i am not sure if he pointed out that his brother and sister still cared for him or what.

edited 16th Apr '14 7:59:29 PM by Duncan0Idaho

You don't have to make Gaara turn sane. And there's not much evidence suggesting he can be redeemed before you know he's redeemed. But if you still want to in an AU with Naruto being more well adjusted...

Honestly, the only thing I can think of at the moment is having his seal being upgraded so he can get some sleep but that's not exactly going to make him stop killing people on a whim, just make him less irritable.

Maybe cut him off from his sand powers entirely for a bit? And then have someone beat some sense into him? I dunno...

@Kosjurake exactly i have no idea how to redeem him because Naruto can no longer understand him because he is not a Jinchuriki here.

Beating the crap out of him is just going to annoy him more, maybe Tamamo beating the crap out of him with her real form after he lets Shukaku out and realizes that no matter how much power he throws around he is screwed and then has some sort of revelation.

One Rinnegan, at least. And it appears to be some new type, since his retains the tomoe from his Sharingan. Naruto got the Senjutsu form of the Sage, complete with the Truth-Seeking Balls and the morphing-black spears. I think he also has the ability to call upon the powers of all nine bijuu, since parts of them were all sealed back into him or something. Gai also survived, just like I guessed.

We all kind of expected something like that to happen, also I laughed at Madara gloating that he has both powers in one. All Naruto and Sasuke have to do is perform the FUSION DANCE.

Or you could have him continue to be a dangerous psychopath if it means consistent characterisation.

@Ironypus that would not work given that i had planned a joint strike between Suna and Konoha towards Orochimaru, Gaara owing to Naruto making him sane is mostly what kept the resentment down by part of the village of the hidden sands (my guess anyway) towards the hidden leaf.

I mean after the invasion i always wondered why no one bothered to hunt the man down.

edited 16th Apr '14 8:43:34 PM by Duncan0Idaho

... Why?

Konoha should mistrust Suna intensely. And they're basically shit compared to Konoha.

@IANCE common ground they both want Orochimaru wiped out of the map, take it as a first step towards rebuilding relationships, plus remember that Orochimaru replaced their Kage and ordered the invasion.

Suna now has a large grudge against the man because they were turned into pawns, Orochimaru went from missing nin to full blown terrorist who is a danger for all the elemental nations, if he was able to replace a Kage who says he cannot pull the move again? or summon a squad of Edo Tensei Zombies and proceed to wipe a village.

(I am aware that orochimaru is more of a guy that goes For Science! and immortality but the rest of the nations will not look at him like that, Orochimaru alone is a great danger)

edited 16th Apr '14 8:53:41 PM by Duncan0Idaho

This might have already been addressed... but would the Sound/Sand invasion even still happen? Because with out Kurama getting loose to eff crap up and the Uchiha clan still being fully intact, I'm finding that unlikely. You did say the Uchiha clan was still alive right?

@Kosjurake yes i did say that the Uchiha's are alive and that Kurama never left Kushina's gut.

One of the reasons why the invasion will still happen is because Orochimaru still wants a set of sharingan eyes so he plans to cause a big enough ruckus that distracts the bulk of the forces and leave him free to kidnap a few Uchiha from their homes and also at the same time it accomplishes his objective of revenge for picking Minato over him as Hokage and ruining his experiments.

edited 16th Apr '14 8:57:49 PM by Duncan0Idaho

The Invasion came off as more of a "For the Lulz" kind of thing more than anything else, Orochimaru's only real goal in it seemed to be killing Sarutobi. He barely did it, and the dude was a living fossil at that point. I doubt he would bother with it this time around if Hiruzen wasn't even in power anymore, Minato would destroy him.

@Karnality you raise good points, it part of the reason why i am still on the planning stages of this, i am un sure what to keep or not, as i pointed before the idea i have atm is the whole 'i want a set of sharingan eyes, i fucking hate the leaf and minato for picking him over me for the yondaime position' as current motivator, i dont want Gaara to still be the crazy asshole.

• sigh* I guess i could take a page of win some, lose some and make Gaara's mom be alive so the kid never goes bonkers and the Kazekage is not a stupid asshole.

edited 16th Apr '14 9:02:12 PM by Duncan0Idaho

Hm. Do you think Anko being a sleeper agent for Orochimaru would be a good plot twist, or just a diablous ex machina?

Minato would most likely stomp him into paste, Orochimaru isn't a complete idiot, he wouldn't try to seek revenge on him when he is that outmatched.

As for the Sharingan, you mentioned this is in a non-massacre AU right? It would be super easy to get then, just ambush any Uchiha in the field. Then torture him until he unlocks the Sharingan, or just use him as breeding stock (Uchiha bodies forever). Oro has no actual morals, those are both viable options.

It'd be even easier since he has a hyper-competent spy in Kabuto, who could either learn about their missions or maybe even go up to Jonin level, forge some documents and get his own genin team with an Uchiha on it.

@Karnality ack i had forgotten about Kabuto, i supose that could be an alternative, now that i remember about him i wonder if i cannot change his whole start of darkness?

Depends on if you are hurting for a Big Bad or not, with him Orochimaru definitely fits the bill because nearly all of his subordinates are insanely OP. You could even handwave Kimimaro's illness as being the result of the fight against the Fourth Kazekage, and since that didn't happen he is still alive.

For part one i really dont have a big bad, well i guess that due to Itachi never leaving Konoha Orochimaru never had a reason to run from Akatsuki so i could probably introduce them earlier.

My main problem with part one and part two of Naruto is how Orochimaru somehow became less and less of a threat when other S class ninja started popping up, so i was thinking that at least i want him gone, the man is a scientific genius.

And would it be out of character of Kabuto to inform Minato of Root still being active? if he feels Minato can protect her older sister/adoptive sister i think he would betray Danzo.

edited 16th Apr '14 11:32:24 PM by Duncan0Idaho

Apparently Hiruzen knows about root, if filler is to be considered. He'd probably know about it anyway if he was any good at his job.

Echoes keeps going up and down.

Chugging through Chapter 28 (31), the heroes have been split up and thrown into four different worlds - one that's based off two dystopia novels, one where Itachi became the 5th Hokage with the Massacre not occuring, one where Minato survived as 4th Hokage (but an OC is threatening the peace), and another where... well, I'm not sure what's happening, but Tobi is a girl in this world.

The author firmly believes in Anyone Can Die, which is starting to make the deaths presented rather predictable. As has been said multiple times, the fic plunges into Darker and Edgier, with more and more tortured characters crawling out the woodwork. There's an abundance of excessive political commentary going on. (Addendum: the author freely admits this and even cites what inspired it) The villains aren't too great either. Let's not get started on the "August Star" who keeps getting name-dropped every two chapters.

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Character reference:

• Kazama, dimension-traveling hero Naruto, Plot Coupon, no Nine-Tails.
• Naruko, female Naruto, amicable, female Kyuubi, canon Naruto with Rasengan/Shunshin.
• Chibaku, Naruto trained by Sasori, puppetmaster.
• Sasori, the same one mentioned above - the author like this character, and he's essentially the team's Batman.
• Kitsune, Superpowered Evil Side Naruto.
• Kakashi, from a world where Sakura was the Nine-Tails, depressed because the Wave Mission failed.
• Fem!Haku, from the same world as Kakashi, born as a girl (because that's never been done ever and it helps indicate how realities can change, yes).
• Yugito, from a world where Naruto joined Kumo and helped them take over the world.
• Gaara, from the same world as Yugito, but born as a girl... for some reason.
• Kuebiko, Tobirama, who created a time-travel jutsu and survived the Kinkaku Force in his world, accomplishing Alternate Universe Reed Richards Is Awesome.
• Omoikane, yeah... you might not want this spoiled if you care to read the fic. Anko, interdimensional ninja babe.
• Tsukuyomi, Machivellian version of Tobi who keeps calling himself Madara because the story was made prior to the Obito reveal.
• Amaterasu, Supervillain Madara who spanks Bijuu and wields a lot of neat swords. Zabuza killed him to death.
• Susanoo, Madaratobi with Nagato's Rinnegan, currently recruiting.
• The August Star, some OC villain that's supposed to be a multiverse deity and is infecting Kazama.

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Minato Lives World: Minato lived and is recovering from Kushina's death with Mikoto. Kakashi and Yugito are stuck here, where an OC, Ayatsuri Kenta, who is the most Played Straight For the Evulz villain I've ever seen in a fan fic, is disrupting the peace. This fic was written to 'deconstruct' Naruto cliches and plot points, while also rationalizing some parts of canon, and I think it's gone too far in both pursuits. Kenta, in this story, is essentially the reason Kakashi's childhood was utter crap. He was responsible for Obito's death, Rin's death, the death of Kakashi's child, stealing candy from children, larceny, etc. He's a bad guy in case the fic didn't make that clear. When we read from his perspective, his epithet is "Pure Evil"... which is funny because the author criticizes the concept of 'pure alignment' with his repetition of using characters and goals that are morally ambiguous.

This world features a very contrived antagonist.

Dystopia World: Madara became the Hokage and Konoha becomes a dystopia, you know, Big Brother and all that. Tobirama, Chibaku, and fem!Haku are stuck here - and they are joined by a Good!Orochimaru and a Dimension-Traveling Anko. Actually kind of interesting because there's a clone army involved, but there's a constant amount of "What Measure Is a Non-Human?" being told, and I can't help but feel I'm going to know more than I want to about the plots of Nineteen Eighty Four and Utopia if I read any further - the speech patterns of the characters sound like they've been lifted from somewhere, with terms from Naruto filling in a few blanks. Madara and Hashirama becoming allusions to Big Brother, for example. This really isn't my cup of tea.

It's overly political, but this world has a more suspenseful conflict.

Itachi becomes Hokage World: Naruko, Fem!Gaara, and Kitsune are stuck here. The plot here is that the possessed!Naruto is being haunted by the ghost of Shisui Uchiha, leading to a Battle in the Center of the Mind. The prose takes forever to get to this part, and for those who aren't fond of fanon, you get a look into how the Tailed Beasts develop gender identities (Shukaku actually wanting to become Gaara's mother, and Naruko's Nine Tails going down a similar path). Shisui sheds some light on a mysterious "Inner Council" conspiracy that's been rumored at in most of the worlds seen so far. There's a big emotional fan fare over how this Naruto (Kitsune) deals with his issues, and how Female!Gaara and Naruko relate their problems to him.

It's long-winded, but this world's entertaining thanks to Naruko (canon Naruto)'s presence.

Fourth world?: Kazama is stuck here with Tsukuyomi and Susano'o. How will our hero escape? He joins Tsukuyomi. Tobi wants to train this Naruto and convert him, so a good chunk of this part is about Tobi figuring out how Naruto's good at certain styles - it's a laundry list of how Naruto's control is average and he's good at this affinity and he's good at this made-up fighting style. So anyway, prior to this, Naruto ends up meeting this world's Minato and attacks him due to some unfortunate character development. Apparently Minato is in the middle of peace talks with Amegakure.

In this world, Nagato hasn't become Pain yet, so to add onto that incoming landmine, Kazama learns about the other worlds his friends are trapped in, moments before Hanzo shows up. Great. Interesting. Minus the lengthy section that came before it where Minato and Kazama had an argument about Minato's patriotism, how Kazama felt cheated because Minato sacrificed his family, blah. Sort of a Dark Reprise of the conversation from canon, but less impactful.

...I kind of like this one, if not for Tobi's massive infodump while training Naruto and the aforementioned conversation.

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Every antagonist, even the ones not aware of other realities, have a tendency to go on and on about how life is meaningless, how power/control/order/free will/sentience/democracy/whatever existential or political term you wish to write your thesis on has been mistreated by the current world order.

On the brighter side though...

Good!Orochimaru has had so little dialogue, it makes him very dissimilar from the crappy, Talking Is a Free Action Orochimaru that showed up earlier.

And I do like how the heroes have been split up - that was an unexpected dose of freshness.

edited 17th Apr '14 2:25:56 PM by Soble

@Ironypus would you kindly point me to the filler? (Inb4 it's shadows of the ANBU)

The author of Legacy of a namikaze replied to me and said he is interested on constructive criticism, i am writing him a reply with several points i criticize of his fic.

edited 17th Apr '14 11:42:45 AM by Duncan0Idaho

I used to be interested in Echoes, now not so much. For as much as he seems to want to deconstruct common fanfic tropes, he's sure hit a few of them. Anko the superbabe, Fem!Haku, Fem!Gaara.. I wanted to see how someone handled the large cast (I was thinking of doing something similar, but was unsure of my ability to portray such a diverse cast).

I started reading great clan days, so far is interesting and Madara just showed up his ugly mug, so shit is about hit the fan.