DEATH BATTLE

Never.

Ever.

Going to trust magical, talking ponies.

Watched the first episode and it didn't wow me like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, or Star Vs The Forces Of Evil. Though the sheer amount of 34 from MLP is staggering.

edited 20th Jan '17 3:02:44 PM by Soble

For added WTF, Pinkie is explicitly not one of the magical ones. The ones who can do magic are the unicorns. Pegasi also seem to have physics-defying properties like flying, moving clouds, etc. but these are physical features, not magic abilities.

Pinkie is neither. She's just a mundane, ordinary, unspecial Pony who happens to contort the very fabric of reality around her with the slightest effort.

Earth ponies and pegasi in MLP may not have the innate power to actively wield magic, but a common fan theory is that all ponies have a measure of innate magic within them that is responsible for their superpower-level abilities, such as earth ponies' physical Super-Strength and pegasi' ability to fly at amazing speeds and with great precision despite neither being sufficiently aerodynamic nor having large enough wings to generate sufficient lifting powers. Oh, and the fact that pegasi can walk on clouds and both move clouds around the sky and make them rain by physically pushing/kicking them (no magic spells, just one or two kicks to a cloud is what it takes to make rain fall from it).

That's just cartoon physics though.

No, that's being meta enough to affect the physics of the media you're in.

All ponies have magic, it just depends.

Unicorns have what could be called active magic, stuff like telekinesis. But not all unicorns can just blast spells like Twilight Sparkle. The ability depends primarily on concentration, effort, and the pony's innate talent. For example, Starlight's magic is able to take away a pony's cutie mark, but it took quite a long time to do a barrier, something Twilight can do with ease, and her brother Shining Armor seems to excel at, as he's able to create a barrier that can shield all of Canterlot, and his mini shield spell is in the shape of his cutie mark.

Pegasi and Earth ponies have a more passive magic.

Pegasi magic primarily deals with weather. Being able to move and alter clouds, create tornadoes and hurricanes, and produce snowflakes and rainbows. They also have the passive ability to walk on clouds, something shared with other winged creatures like griffons. Some particularly fast fliers may also have a speed streak, like Rainbow's rainbow or the Wonderbolt's smoke.

Earth Ponies seem to be more natural, being more experts at plants and animals,which could explain this. Seriously, what. There's also the argument that Earth Ponies are naturally stronger, with Applejack's powerful kicks, Big Macintosh being able to easilly pull a house, Maud Pie hurling boulders across the horizon, or Lily Longsocks being able to lift a school.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/episode/dbx-season-2-iron-man-vs-mega-man-x-marvel-vs-capcom

In other news this is happening.

@Soble: The first couple episodes are generally regarded as some of the worst of the first season, just so you know.

Anyway ponies be OP.

I thought Season 3 was considered the worst?

Generally speaking people consider Season 3 to be the worst because of Wonderbolts Academy, Spike At Your Service, Keep Calm and Flutter On, Magical Mystery Cure, and Equestria Girls.

Lots of big changes with polarizing reactions, and head-bangingly dumb episodes.

Season 1's first episodes had some growing pains going on, though I feel it's incredibly overstated how "bad" it is. It's not as good as what followed, but it's not, like, horrible or anything.

Season 3 is mostly considered bad because it was shortened to 13 instead of 26 episodes, had some writer shakeup going on which led to erratic episode quality (I think the only one people universally agree was good was the one with Scootaloo going camping), and the fanbase flipped out over some decisions that turned out to not be as bad as they thought they'd be (TWILICORN). Season 4 picked it up significantly (and the finale was awesome), then Season 5 dipped somewhat, only for Season 6 to pick things back up.

edited 20th Jan '17 9:36:01 PM by AdricDePsycho

Wonderbolts Academy? Really? I always got the impression that it was one of the more universally liked episodes and one of the highlights of Season 3.

Anyway Season 3 definitely has a generally poorer quality than the rest of the Seasons, but imo it has a couple of the best episodes in the whole series.

edited 20th Jan '17 9:39:15 PM by EpicBleye

The Wonderbolt's are assholes. Pretty much no one learned anything from it.

I think that one's just a personal preference. I know people HATE Spike at your Service.

Wasn't Wonderbolts Academy the one that was like a Top Wing spoof or something? I haven't seen it, but I remember hearing people saying it was one of the better ones (or celebrating it because the writer wasn't one of the better ones and they'd finally made a good episode).

edited 20th Jan '17 9:50:54 PM by AdricDePsycho

Yeah, Merriwether Williams, writer of Spongebob classics like Fools in April, Wormy, Frankendoodle, No Weenies Allowed and so on, was responsible for some of the less than stellar episodes like Mysterious Mare Do Well, Dragon Quest, and Spike at your Service.

Although she did write Hearth's Warming Eve and Bats!, so she's more hit or miss than anything.

This has derailed a bit too much into MLP talk, it's 2012 all over again

To try and re-rail the thread; since RD's showing in Death Battle the ponies have gotten even more feats to their name (with Season 4 having a finale that would almost make Dragon Ball blush). They definitely pack more of a punch than many people give them credit for, even discounting toon force.

edited 20th Jan '17 10:59:24 PM by EpicBleye

Mane 6 Battle Royale DBX when

So I know what Twilight, Pinkie Pie, and Rainbow Dash do. What about Rarity and Applejack? And I'm not really counting Spike because he's not a pony.

I admit that I haven't seen as much of the show as some other people have, but could that not just be a matter of being familiar and experienced with the spell?

We recently saw the Diamond Dogs episode, in which Rarity has a gem-finding spell. Twilight Sparkle can also cast the spell, but she mentions that Rarity taught her how to do it. That pretty clearly indicates that unicorn spells are things you learn, study, and master - as is typically the case with spell-casting in media.

Twilight Sparkle is an amazing spellcaster with a huge library of spells at her disposal, but I just assumed that was because she actually makes the effort to be. Like, her cutie mark is magic. Being the party wizard is her entire focus. Her life revolves around it.

Rarity, by contrast, uses magic as a utility to achieve her focus: fashion design. So she's an inferior caster to Twilight because she doesn't spend twelve hours of every day poring through books looking for new spells to learn.

...It Gets Better? 'Cause we've been enjoying it pretty well already. @.@

Rarity is a unicorn like Twilight so she can cast spells too. She mostly uses this for fashion design, because that's her thing. She's also a cunning manipulator.

Applejack is a brick. She's crazy strong and hits things really hard. She's the Tank.

There's also Fluttershy, a pegasus like Rainbow Dash, whose main thing is her affinity with animals.

edited 21st Jan '17 11:10:22 AM by TobiasDrake

Somebody needs to do calculations for how hard Applejack can buck trees.

To put it in DnD terms, being really good at casting Overland Flight doesn't actually mean you can throw a Fireball. Overland Flight is a much harder spell than Fireball, but if you've never bothered learning Fireball, Overland Flight does nothing to make it possible to cast.

I think it's been stated in either Season 1 or 2 that each Unicorn has their own spell that they excel at, but I might be mistaken on that account.

That's just how I took it. I could be wrong. Like I said, I'm barely near the end of season 1. Just wanted to put that out there.

If it was a battle royale between the members of the Mane 6, I'd give it to Twilight.

I'd say Pinkie Pie, since she's relatively immortal; granted this will probably just end in the same way as the Pinkie Pie vs Deadpool battle.

x6

Bucking trees hard enough to get the apples to fall is pretty tame compared to actually knocking trees down, stopping a cart by digging her hooves into the ground, or sending a hammer flying.