What I mean by "perfoming poorly" is that it's growth is severly stunted. I checked the Wick article and it says 36-99 is considered healthy(for a fairly young trope, which this trope certainly isn't).But the trope isn't growing beyond that, which is probably because its growth is stunted due to its inbounds. I'm just saying a trope that as old as it is needs at least 70-100 wicks or more to thrive.According to the Wick page a trope needs at least 100-999 wicks to be reowned.
Sure its being used when talking about comics, and there are just as much or more people that are not familiar with The Hulk's tendency to get his Cooldown Hug's interrupted. We can't only just service the people who read comicbooks, we have to service everyone so that this trope can be used more often. Also the trope isn't exclusive to comicbooks there are many other media examples.Which is one of the reasons why I am supporting this trope to be renamed.
I guess Cooldown Hug Interruption is okay though.
The crowner as LouieW said earlier,is pretty mixed and it looks like it could go either way.It keeps going up and down, I kind of wish the votes were more steady with wheather this should be renamed or not.
Edit: I apologise in advance for my Serial Tweaker habits, I just can't seem to get everything right...
edited 3rd Dec '11 11:24:20 AM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Bumping for more votes.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Like I said earlier I hate double posting.But I want this crowner to have more votes and so we can finally close the Single prop crowner,find possible alternative names or redirects, and put this thread to rest in the morgue.It keeps falling down everytime I try to revive it...
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."There is no need to bump on a daily basis.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.Sorry, I should have been more patient.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."It's been running for two months, lets just call the damn thing.
The crowner just now hit 2:1. If that can hold until Monday, we can call it.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.Wait we are renaming? I was proposing a searchable redirect. I see no point in losing the reference in the trope name.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?That is because the crowner is a Single Proposition crowner,which means there is only one option everyone has to vote whether they want it to happen or not.It is the crowner most suited for renames.
If the crowner had been a Page Action crowner an option to keep the name and redirect farm could have been added.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."& highlighting the problem that we are too quick to rename. It's sad when almost every thread that comes in here has, generally within ten posts, the campaign for a rename starting regardless of what is needed. Generally the same person pushing every rename and organising a campaign as well.
There is too much of a presumption towards renames in the TRS, it should be harder than this to do it. Apart from anything else why do we keep crowners open until it gets a rename result. Result should be neutral, we shouldn't be working towards getting any result.
edited 5th Dec '11 5:01:52 AM by CrypticMirror
Yes, we probably should have waited longer before making the crowner. A Page Action crowner appears to be more suited for this issue than a Single Proposition crowner.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Aaaaaand now we're just shy of the magic 2:1 ratio for a single-prop action. 19 yeas, 10 nays.
I didn't write any of that.We now have the 2.10:1 ratio. 21 yeas and 10 nays.
edited 5th Dec '11 3:33:12 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Simply put, the crowner is still in motion, and thus won't be called in the immediate future.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.Man, it would be a shame to lose the reference in the title when a similar searchable redirect suffices.
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?Frankly, I don't agree with that mindset. While it doesn't make them automatically bad, there's nothing particularly good either about having references in a trope title.
The only thing that's really bad about them is that people seem to take their presence as "references are cool and we like them" instead of them just being something of a bonus.
Fight smart, not fair.references are like Bowties, they are were, are, and always will be, Cool (capital letter esential). The trouble is the world often fails to be as cool as them. Be part of the Cool, appreciate references, the more obscure the better (and wear a bowtie).
edited 6th Dec '11 6:14:58 AM by CrypticMirror
That is... so much an unhealthy attitude for this wiki that I can only assume you're joking. The idea that not only are references actively good, but the more obscure they are the better has been a blight on this site for ages and is responsible for some of our worst trope names ever. I really hope you are not serious.
(Except about the bowties. Bowties are cool.)
Okay, what? Why did the move to the unpunctuated title bring it down from 80 wicks? And why isn't the punctuated title automatically redirected to the main article? For that matter, why is it locked?
edited 6th Dec '11 6:30:10 PM by Earnest
The ptitle was cut (for being a ptitle redirect), and cut articles are automatically locked.
My troper wallOkay, but still, I thought it was SOP to make old ptitles redirect to the new ones, especially if they have external hits. It still seems odd that the wicks would drop so much, was there a lot of misuse or has the switch not been finished? It's frustrating for me because the lack of wicks going to the old ptitle means I can't fix it.
Wait seriously? We've been running this whole crowner based on false wick/inbound counts? That's terrible.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
How is "performing so poorly" being interpreted? Once enough examples from works have been collected not getting new wicks is not necessarily "performing poorly" (as eg.: this trope is pervasive and repeating in comicworld). As for inbounds a good point — with such a complex name, it is hard to get the trope "talked about" in a way that encourages outside linking.
...What about Cooldown Hug Interruption for a searchable redirect?
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?