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Deadlock Clock: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#51: Mar 17th 2012 at 11:04:07 PM

Looking at the page itself (Saving the World), I'm noticing that the example section isn't listing examples of "conflict gradually escalates until the world is at stake." It's just listing examples of Video Games that happen to involve saving the world. I don't think there's any way we're going to be able to have a trope named "Saving the World" that isn't just about saving the world in general.

If there is a trope here to salvage (and give a different name), here's what I think it might be:

"Certain mediums and genres aren't seen as being suited to low-stakes conflicts. In epic high fantasy and science fiction stories (I say that because that's what just about all the video game examples fall under) the plot will always end up escalating to a Save-the-world plot, even if things started out much simpler."

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#52: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:44:42 AM

[up]Sounds like a plan.

Trope Transplant this to being plots which involve saving an entire world.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#53: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:56:38 AM

Off-topic, but where is this supposed Special Efforts thread for discussing improperly medium-specific tropes? I've got another one.

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#54: Mar 18th 2012 at 7:58:50 AM

Here

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#55: Mar 18th 2012 at 8:35:41 AM

Ah, thanks!

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#56: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:34:25 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

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BrentLaabs from Planet Eris Since: Jun, 2010
#57: Apr 18th 2012 at 3:35:30 PM

Are people more or less agreed to a Trope Transplant with Saving the World being about a plot where heroes avert The End of the World as We Know It? If so, let's start a rename crowner for the High Fantasy Plot Always Escalates Into Saving The World From Destruction And Thats Terrible part of it.

Most of the non-video game wicks are already using it in this way (and, of course, in an X Just X fashion).

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#58: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:40:05 PM

Yeah, I don't think we've had any real objections to any suggestions. I just don't think anyone's gone and done the rewrite.

I'll take a stab at it on Sandbox.Saving The World.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#59: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:45:35 PM

Boom, basic description in. Couldn't think of many related tropes for that paragraph and it's kind of spartan overall.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#60: May 13th 2012 at 5:07:06 AM

So what's happening with this? Saving the World is still very videogame-specific (to the point that rather than splitting the examples into media, they're split into game genres).

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#61: May 15th 2012 at 12:02:08 PM

Crowner affixed to thread.

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illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#62: May 27th 2012 at 5:30:33 PM

The trope as is seems to be the observation that the end goal is always saving the world, no matter what it starts out as (as ABK 0100 pointed out way before me). This sounds specific enough to be a separate trope, but in either case, Saving the World is way way way too broad of a name for the connotations of this trope.

edited 27th May '12 5:32:14 PM by illegalcheese

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#63: May 28th 2012 at 2:40:18 AM

I think neither should be videogame specific. This is a general plot trope, as is the name.

Everyone okay with Sandbox.Saving The World?

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DoKnowButchie from San Juan, Puerto Rico. Since: Jan, 2001
tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#65: May 29th 2012 at 5:21:02 PM

I think neither should be videogame specific.
I agree, so I added a new option to the crowner to that effect.

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Jun 14th 2012 at 11:39:58 AM

No new votes for a week or two now.

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#67: Jun 18th 2012 at 10:05:49 AM

Okay, the last bump attracted a bunch more votes. Can we call this?

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#68: Jun 20th 2012 at 8:08:55 AM

"seemingly small-focus stories escalating into world-saving,"

I really want to call this World Shaking Climax, but I can see how that could be misinterpreted...

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#69: Jul 9th 2012 at 4:06:14 PM

It's been a while now, and consensus seems clear. What has to be done to call it?

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#70: Jul 16th 2012 at 2:08:55 PM

Calling crowner: transplant the current trope after making it non-video game specific and rewrite Saving the World to be the broader trope about saving the world.

We'll need a name for the new trope.

edited 16th Jul '12 2:09:51 PM by ccoa

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#72: Aug 5th 2012 at 4:48:46 PM

[up]Falls down somewhat on the "not limited to videogames" stipulation.

So the broad trope is "at the end of the work, the world needs to be saved", is that about right? Like Grand Finale or Big Damn Movie, but within a single storyline?

Third Act Global Jeopardy? Global Jeopardy Ending? Save The World Ending?

edited 5th Aug '12 4:52:31 PM by johnnye

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#74: Aug 6th 2012 at 8:41:10 AM

But a bit long. Third Act Apocalypse rolls off the tongue better.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#75: Aug 6th 2012 at 12:51:17 PM

But "Apocalypse" implies the world does end, whereas we're talking about it ultimately being saved.

Unfortunately The World Is Always Doomed is already taken, for serial works in which the world needs saving on a regular basis. Still, worth listing it as a related trope.

edited 6th Aug '12 1:05:15 PM by johnnye

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15th May '12 11:22:35 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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