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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:51:34 PM

In this case, literal shots, not physical assault.

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/05/injectable-birt.php

When it comes to birth control, it's a lot harder figuring out how to stop a bajillion little sperm than one little egg, but a scientist in India has managed to develop an injection for men that has so far proven to be 100% effective and completely reversible with no side effects. Sign me up.

The injection is called RISUG, which stands for "reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance." Let's just get the uncomfortable bit out of the way first: you can't just be injected anywhere, the doctor has to stick a needle into your scrotum. Twice. Yeah, bad times, but you'll deal, and here's why: after two tiny injections taking all of 15 minutes, study after study has shown that the injection is 100% effective at preventing pregnancy. You won't suffer any side effects at all, it lasts a minimum of 10 years, and it's completely reversible with another few injections.

Here's how it works: a non-toxic, positively charged polymer gets injected into the little tube that your sperm pass through on their way from your testicles to, you know, out. The polymer doesn't actually block the tube, but it stays there, and when sperm (which have a negative charge) pass by, the charge differential from the polymer zaps them. All of them. Every time.

So why is this not available yet? Well, not to go all conspiracy theory on you, but drug companies aren't especially interested in RISUG because they wouldn't make any money on it. The injection lasts a decade and the syringe would likely end up costing more than what's inside, so unlike male hormonal birth control (which they've been working on for years), patients wouldn't need to keep paying for more medication every month.

Luckily, there's a private foundation that's working to get RISUG approved here in the US, although they have to start more or less from scratch to do it. The company is called Parsemus, and they recently got $100k from the Gates Foundation to see if RISUG might work on women, too.

In the meantime, Phase III trials are starting up in India, which is basically the last step before RISUG gets approved for use by anyone who wants it (in India, anyway) within the next few years.

It sounds awesome, especially for the young, single people. I do wonder a few things about it: namely, if there's enough left to do DNA analysis in case of crimes, and what the failure chance really is, since nothing is 100% guaranteed except death.

Still, if you don't mind a couple of needles puncturing your scrotum you can put the onus of pregnancy on the guy. Then you just have to worry about the STD chances ...

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PDown It's easy, mmkay? Since: Jan, 2012
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#2: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:55:35 PM

Uh, no thanks.

At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...
blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#3: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:55:45 PM

I don't think the DNA analysis after a crime is a big issue, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of other tissue available for examination.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#4: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:56:05 PM

I'm pretty sure they put on local anesthetic.

[up] Just about any tissue can be used for DNA analysis, this is not a concern.

edited 5th Jun '11 8:56:49 PM by annebeeche

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PDown It's easy, mmkay? Since: Jan, 2012
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#5: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:58:56 PM

I would be more interested if:

  • Holy God, please lower the squick level. Even the insides of the thighs would be less squicky.
  • Make it toggle-able with some sort of electromagnetic field so that I don't need another injection to have kids again.

At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...
blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#6: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:02:32 PM

Sorry, but I don't think we can relocate your vas deferens that easily.

I'm assuming that's where they're located, but I could be mistaken.

edited 5th Jun '11 9:02:48 PM by blueharp

deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:19:03 PM

As long as I can be K Oed before hand.

edited 5th Jun '11 9:20:33 PM by deuxhero

HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#9: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:40:18 PM

Condom use is highly effective and in conjunction with the pill (which has a 99% prevention rate on its own) this shouldn't be really necessary in a western nation with access to these things. In the developing world, great. Still, no ball puncturing would be something I like.

Oh, and a local would be almost as bad. General please.

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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#10: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:45:01 PM

...yeah, something tells me drug companies aren't interested in this because they know men don't want needles anywhere near their balls. I don't see this being significantly more popular than vasectomies, though it can certainly replace them.

Also, in before someone suggests making them mandatory.

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#11: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:46:56 PM

Reminds me of the husbands who say the wife should get her tubes tied, rather than he get a vasectomy.

Shut up and Soldier.

It's not like they can't get you so doped up that you wouldn't care about it.

HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#12: Jun 5th 2011 at 9:53:43 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.
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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:16:19 PM

I honestly don't think the "we can't make money off this" issue is as big as "we don't think guys will sign up to get scrotum shots" issue.

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#14: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:22:50 PM

If you can't get past a simple procedure that could spare you having an unexpected child, then I wonder about you.

Then again, some guys get all antsy about condoms, so I guess it's not surprising.

edited 5th Jun '11 10:23:18 PM by blueharp

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#15: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:23:19 PM

[up] Considering the sheer amount of guys that refuse to wear condoms, I'm not surprised.

Gah. Edit ninja'd.

edited 5th Jun '11 10:23:34 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

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#16: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:26:12 PM

A) Here's a more complete analysis of what it is, how it works, and what studies have been done.

B) Hungry Joe, that was utterly off-topic as well as a magnificent demonstration of ignorance about what contraceptives do and don't do.

edited 5th Jun '11 10:27:04 PM by Madrugada

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#17: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:29:36 PM

Not saying that's about me, but I think if you asked guys if they'd sign up for scrotum shots, for any benefit, a lot of them would say no.

Fight smart, not fair.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#18: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:32:19 PM

@Deboss: I do agree that we should keep looking into hormonal contraceptives for men, but I also think that this would be far preferable in some circumstances. Chemical-based contraceptives don't always work, condoms break, vasectomys are far more intrusive, and so on.

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TheDeadMansLife Lover of masks. Since: Nov, 2009
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#19: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:38:53 PM

I think this cool. Every time you canIsaydirtythings you can feel like some sorta mad scientist. Really what guy can't stomach a needle. Down sides. No more jerry springer ):(

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Jeysie Diva of Virtual Death from Western Massachusetts Since: Jun, 2010
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#20: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:42:59 PM

I have had a needle taken to my own bits before, and while it didn't exactly tickle, it wasn't unbearable either. If I had to deal with it for 10 years of guaranteed birth control with no other side effects, I'd be all hell yes.

Granted, I don't know how the sensitivity of a guy's bits compare to that of a girl's bits, but I would think accidentally being a dad would be a lot more painful in a general sense...

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mailedbypostman complete noob from behind you Since: May, 2010
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#21: Jun 5th 2011 at 10:46:25 PM

Even with the clarification, I still thought this was about gunshots to the testes.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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mailedbypostman complete noob from behind you Since: May, 2010
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#23: Jun 5th 2011 at 11:26:23 PM

The trick is getting people to agree to that.

Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
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#24: Jun 5th 2011 at 11:29:27 PM

....

You know, I think I woulda preferred a physical Groin Attack over two needles into the ball sack...

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#25: Jun 5th 2011 at 11:38:34 PM

Long term effectiveness, high level of effectiveness, and reversible. Now that sounds like a good idea.

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