Bad title, Rename: Clueless Chick Magnet

That's changing the trope though.

The trope currently written down is more "I know you love me but I don't want it or try and avoid it." Standard Unwanted Harem Protagonist Vs that one which is "Anti Shipping Goggles on matters of love related toward you" the true Clueless Chick-Magnet. I think it should be the latter hence my earlier posts but examples are for the former.

edited 15th Jun '11 10:08:41 AM by Raso

Half the examples are for each trope, "I know you love me but I don't know what to do" (intended trope) and "Chick Magnet who doesn't know they're a Chick Magnet" (what it looks like). On other pages, its being used as the second one, and that's what the title sounds like. Cleanup would be needed either way, but this is easier.

Let's see if we've got this straight:

• Chick Magnet- guy who attracts a ton of women. May react positively (eg: casual sex w/multiple partners[possibly many at once]) or negatively (eg: "I already have a girlfriend, lay off," or "You huys are annoying, just leave me alone!") to the advances of these women.
• Clueless Chick-Magnet- currently used (according to description on page) to refer to a man who knows that he attracts women, and purposely denies the women who he attracts, due to something he thinks/knows about himself (eg "I'm not good enough for her." or "I don't want to hurt the feelings of all those other girls by choosing"). I think Self Foiling Chick Magnet would work better, even if it's a little wordy.
• There is also a trope (as in not an official page, but a convention or whatnot) about a guy who has no idea that a ton of women find him attractive, because he is an idiot. That should be under the title of Clueless Chick-Magnet.

edited 15th Jun '11 10:37:06 AM by SalFishFin

@ #3: not necessarily because he's an idiot, but yeah, that's the gist of it.

2 could also be due to the fact that the Harem is bonkers or flat out dangerous (IE Ranma A Certain Magical Index or To Love Ru and just want to get away.)

It is the usual trope for the Unwanted Harem protagonist.

edited 15th Jun '11 11:11:42 AM by Raso

Hi. I'm the trope page creator. This was one of the first YKTT Ws I ever did, so it was unclear and poorly done, naturally.

What I was trying to get at, now that I've had months to think it over, was a guy who rejects a woman because he's trying to protect her virtue. That's the laconic.

He's generally a Loveable Rogue, the kind of guy good girls go bad over, and the fact that he doesn't want them to "get themselves in trouble" and probably thinks she could do better just makes them even crazier for him.

Does that make a little more sense? So the examples that fit the trope as I meant it include:

• Twilight: In the face of Bella's insistence, Edward finally admits that he's no longer afraid of losing control and killing her, but rather he's trying to protect her virtue. Bella thinks this is extremely funny. At first.
• Sten: (Fleet Of The Damned) when young, beautiful, virginal Cind snuck into Sten's bed, he rejected her on the grounds of the first and third adjective. Of course she just went from crushing to face-plantingly in love.
• Sharpe is so damn popular with women he probably needs that cavalry sword just to beat them away. So far he has rejected a teenaged nun (er...at first), a married woman (well, at first), a French widow (*sigh* at first), and a young spanish noblewoman.
• Pirates Of The Caribbean: Will desperately tries to keep some propriety in his relationship with Elizabeth, despite the fact that she's willing to jump his bones the minute she can get him alone. He resorts to practicing with his sword. A lot.

I think that Self Foiling Love Interest would be more descriptive.

edited 1st Jul '11 6:26:03 AM by callsignecho

.... That's quite different from what the trope appeared to describe itself, excluding the Chick Magnet aspect.

Which was the reason the trope went all sideways.

Maybe you should YKTTW it under Self Foiling Love Interest. Then we can clean up the examples for this one and call it a day.

Okay. Y'all can do as you please with Clueless Chick-Magnet. I personally suggest just cutlisting it, but if the Hive Mind thinks there's a valid trope in that mess I created, by all means dust it off and use it.

I deleted the Self Foiling Love Interest examples. A couple of them were X Just X, so they might be Clueless Chick-Magnet after all; someone who knows the works in question can deal with that.

Otherwise, I think we're done here. Anyone opposed to a lock?