Character Development Thread--Discussion

@ladytanuki: I am unsure where you got the idea Cira would have an opposite view to Moreena's from, even if it is true that he sees things differently from her.

He is generally apathetic or sympathetic to most forms of necromancy, does not truly believe in a "right path" for the dead and finds the idea that some things should be avoided because they are "unnatural" silly, but on the other hand he would find the bargain Sinistrina tried to pull in Dream wrong because hey, he would prefer to keep his soul in one piece were him in their place (although I think he wouldn't oppose her because he would be too overtaken by survival instinct).

PS: also, remember, Dark!Cira and Light?Cira/Sii-Razh probably have more differences than similarities at this point.

So... Snowy, Nrj, Violet? What are we doing in Dream? Snowy and Nrj, do you think you'll be sending your characters back to the farm? Violet, do you think it'd help if I edited my post to bring back more Fisher King or dreamscapey elements, do you want to try something else...?

I'll roll with whatever you guys want to do, but if you're interacting with my characters and it's turning into a chore, you gotta speak up so we can try something else.

Can't speak for Snowy, but I wasn't really planning on sending Mazra back to the farm - I was instead planning on developing the marble corridor more. Though now that I know Violet's mainly stayed in the thread to possibly interact more with our characters, I'm reconsidering.

edited 25th Mar '17 3:00:34 PM by nrjxll

I am planning to have Seilaan and Min reunite once Seilaan and Mazra's adventure in the marble corridor has run its course. I just wasn't sure when exactly that would happen or if it would take place at the farm at all because maybe Min would have moved by that time.

The main thing holding me up is that I'm not sure where to take the conversation that won't just be me retreading old ground. It's mostly just the circumstances of the scene, not something specific to any post anyone's made.

If people wanted to, we could have everyone reconvene and then maybe move to a different location sometime after that??? I think we've all been hanging around the farm for a very long time.

edited 25th Mar '17 5:23:44 PM by VioletN

It didn't seem like retreading old ground to me- as far as I know, I haven't seen that discussed so far in this thread, and it was sort of the only thing I could find that could get them to talk about themselves. Was there something else in your last post that you were hoping Vince or Tsadro would ask about?

Reconvening in a different location is also fine by me, and someone else can choose where.

edited 25th Mar '17 7:32:54 PM by CrystalGlacia

Kkutwar: I'm still waiting on the Anti Soul, if the conversation is supposed to still be going.

Sorry, sorry, if you want me to do a thing about that then I'll keep it in mind for when I do post for the Graveyard.

@Kkutwar: Considering Cecilia's demands, I think that a post describing that the Liner hospital staff couldn't help Anna thoroughly would be nice, since it would show that Gabe is desperate for help.

@Eterna: Well, I was referring mainly to Moreena's very strong opinions on necromancy and souls in general, since Cira doesn't seem to have such. Eh, Dark!Cira sounded more interesting to me, but who knows. Still on the fence on having Sinistrina's group go to the theater... it'll really depend on what everyone else in the group wants to do. Though I bet she'd prefer to go to a place that is not abandoned, seeing as how she had just spent possibly years in a place that was.

Speaking of the Nebula Lobby group, I'm pretty sure Carlotta mentioned Sinistrina by name when she found out that Rebecca was a lich as well, and Ryya was present then, so that means Ryya either forgot about that or decided not to mention it to Sinistrina's face. (EDIT: Ah yes, Carlotta did do that. In this post.)

And I think everyone in the Graveyard group seems to be waiting for Kkutwar... Technically I'm waiting for Corvidae and KC to see if they react to what Sinistrina said (though the spirit's vision would probably be enough to pull her out of despair, based on what I've thought about it), but if they're waiting for Kkutwar, then...

Also, I will be a little slow in posting this coming week, as I'll be moving to a new place and there is still packing to be done. I know it's my turn in both Eldritch Factory locations and the Field of Souls... hopefully will get to at least one of those tonight.

edited 26th Mar '17 12:56:59 AM by ladytanuki

Sorry for no post yet. Right now I can't pin it down to anything but laziness. Scold as you see fit.

In the interests of keeping things moving along, I'm probably just going to go ahead with my original plan for my next post in Dream, but I want to take the night to mull over it, so I probably won't get it up until tomorrow.

@ladytanuki:

Dark!Cira was interesting, but both him and his version of the story had too many dead ends, and after a long period of meditation, I realized that wasn't the story I wanted to tell, from a thematic standpoint.

Not only that, but when thinking about Cira I found out that Dark!Cira's anger and paranoia got in the way of other aspects of his personality that were more relevant to the updated story, and that after removing (temporarily or permanently) or rewriting many of the characters I considered unfit for the remade story or too troublesome to write, I decided I had to rewrite large parts of his backstory.

But don't judge Light?Cira too harshly, he didn't have much chance to show his colors so far.

ps: all this talk about different versions of my character makes me wonder what would happen if they were to meet, and then realize there was a good song for that occasion:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s2L4hL2IvUk

pss: I actually think it isnt a good time for more characters to enter the Theater yet. Sii-razh, Henryand Lauren shouldn't be denied tge opportunity to explore an abandoned place while it is still abandoned

edited 26th Mar '17 5:22:54 AM by EternaMemoria

Finally got my post out. Sorry for taking so long, people who are waiting on me. Normal posting should resume shortly.

It's not a problem with your post. Min just doesn't exactly trust Vince. I could make a post responding to the question now, but I'm not sure how easily we could continue the conversation after that with just Min, Varris, Vince, and Tsadro there.

If she doesn't trust him enough to answer his question truthfully and would rather decline to answer, lie, turn the question on him, or anything else, I don't have a problem with her doing that. That's a form of interaction, too. She can talk about something else, or, hell, see something laying around that he probably wouldn't have at his farm. If it wouldn't be realistic for either one to interact with Vince or Tsadro in any way (whether topics or actions) that would help them develop, that's also fine.

edited 26th Mar '17 10:08:02 AM by CrystalGlacia

@Yomegami: Hey I'm sincerely sorry if this sounds like whining, but I'm really not liking how you're handling this fight. Mostly with what you're doing with Nick and Jackson. It just...feels like you don't want me to have any sort of control over my own characters at all.

I'm not trying to keep you from controlling your characters here; I'm just trying to do what I feel makes sense. By letting Magdalene successfully trap Nick and Jackson in the first place, I had assumed you were complicit with letting her do whatever with them afterwards, and as far as their own efforts to get free they haven't done anything that would really work (though in hindsight, the flashbang probably would have made Magdalene loosen her grip on them).

If it helps, I'm really not enjoying this fight either, so hopefully it'll end within the next couple rounds of posting one way or the other.

Edit: Edited in a bit to give Nick and Jackson a chance to possibly get themselves free.

edited 26th Mar '17 11:58:35 AM by Yomegami

Thank you. And again, sorry if I sounded whiny.

I'm back, and planning a post for Space Liner. My head is kind of spinning though, so it might not get finished today.

Regarding the Graveyard group, I considered writing another post for Moreena but decided to let Kkutwar and Novis catch up first.

If it helps, I'm of the opinion that you can always do something with your characters, even in helpless situations like that. If I were in your position, I would have the boys think about the situation, wondering why Magdalene is treating them like this, and possibly complain about overreacting and/or being an immature bitch. Honestly, I think the most difficult situation to write for is during a conversation when your character has not much to contribute... a state I admit to inflicting on several characters in the threads, Frontier especially with the wagon group. (I'm sure Nrj and Wolf can attest to that.)

I'm actually really enjoying this fight. Though this is coming from someone with a tendency to be really sadistic with regards to my characters (hence why I'm having Gliosem take a lot of damage in the fight - I plan to have her get hurt even more in my next post), so take that with a grain of salt. Plus it really brings out Maggie's character. I can understand why Yomegami might not enjoy it though (it was the same thing with Kkutwar in the graveyard group with regards to the Golden Being, and to some extent, myself with the psychic college students in Frontier) - in the sense that it makes the character seem like The Scrappy.

@Eterna: Well, I'd consider the second half of that song a bit questionable with regards to their meeting (even the lyrics are interpreted as a metaphor), but otherwise it definitely fits.

edited 26th Mar '17 12:44:10 PM by ladytanuki

So who's up in the sickbay in Space Liner? It's fine if we're still waiting; I just want to make sure I'm not holding anyone up again.

@Graveyard: I got the idea outlined (Golden Being reluctantly states he has no other options and outright claims he's been given a false choice thinking it would be forced on him anyways), and assuming Sinistrina gets in on the action than AK & Patches would regain activity in my next Graveyard post. However, I'm not currently in the right mood for posting...

@Brain: I'll need to post before Miller anyways. Is there any particular reaction you're hoping for Gabriel and/or Anna to have regarding your Tigris post?

Well ya ninja'd me cause I already posted in the thread, lol.

Speaking of that group, I'm debating on whether to post for Gliosem now or wait for KC to post with Alice. Since Will posted out of order for Megumi and my post won't affect Alice's potential actions much, I might.