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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#26: Apr 2nd 2011 at 5:18:09 PM

Yes I hoping more for a brief explanation on his beliefs. Or at least the high points of said beliefs. I gleaned most of what you just said from his page summary. So if you could please, Rott? Or PM it to me. Whichever you feel more appropriate.

edited 2nd Apr '11 5:18:41 PM by Aondeug

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Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#27: Apr 2nd 2011 at 5:27:16 PM

@Aon: He wrote sooo much, the whole worldview doesn't pack down neatly into a brief explanation. What do you want first? A brief explanation of his metaphysics, his psychology, his political philosophy...?

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#28: Apr 2nd 2011 at 5:31:40 PM

I dunno...surprise me.

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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
The Ant King
#29: Apr 2nd 2011 at 5:39:59 PM

In other words, I have issues with the strongly epistemological and ethical focus of the quiz, to the detriment of the metaphysical sides of these thinkers.

Although I suppose the average person would have more opinions on the first two.

You win this day, internet quiz.

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Alichains Hyaa! from Street of Dreams Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
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#30: Apr 2nd 2011 at 5:49:37 PM

My #1 is: Platonist My #2 is: Socratic My #3 is: Stoic My #4 is: Pythagorean My #5 is: Epicurean My #6 is: Cynic My #7 is: Cyrenaeic (hedonist) My #8 is: Sophist

My #1 is: Kant My #2 is: Aristotle My #3 is: Hume My #4 is: Augustine My #5 is: Plato My #6 is: Aquinas My #7 is: Protagoras My #8 is: Sextus Empiricus My #9 is: Nietzsche

edited 2nd Apr '11 5:52:41 PM by Alichains

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#31: Apr 2nd 2011 at 6:05:37 PM

First test:

  1. Epicurean
  2. Stoic
  3. Socratic (for some reason, this bar was the smallest)
  4. Cynic
  5. Cyrenaeic (hedonist)
  6. Sophist
  7. Pythagorean
  8. Platonist

Second test:

  1. Cyrenaeic (hedonist)
  2. Sophist
  3. Epicurean
  4. Cynic
  5. Socratic
  6. Stoic
  7. Pythagorean
  8. Platonist

edited 2nd Apr '11 6:13:34 PM by Wicked223

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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
He/Him
#32: Apr 2nd 2011 at 6:14:15 PM

In order from most to least applicable:

Test 1:

  • Epicurean
  • Pythagorean
  • Platonist, stoic (tie)
  • Sophist
  • Cyrenaeic (hedonist), Cynic, Socratic (all zero)

Test 2:

  • Hume
  • Augustine, Kant (Tie)
  • Nietzsche, Sextus Empiricus (Tie)
  • Aquinas, Aristotle (Tie)
  • Protagoras
  • Plato (Zero)

edited 2nd Apr '11 6:21:42 PM by Acebrock

My troper wall
Matrix Since: Jan, 2001
#33: Apr 2nd 2011 at 6:57:02 PM

Test 1:

  • My #1 is: Epicurean (100%)
  • My #2 is: Socratic (60%)
  • My #3 is: Stoic (60%)
  • My #4 is: Cynic(40%)
  • My #5 is: Platonist(40%)
  • My #6 is: Pythagorean (35%)
  • My #7 is: Cyrenaeic (hedonist)(0%)
  • My #8 is: Sophist (0%)

Test 2:

  • My #1 is: Kant (100%)
  • My #2 is: Aristotle (80%)
  • My #3 is: Aquinas (50%)
  • My #4 is: Augustine (40%)
  • My #5 is: Hume (40%)
  • My #6 is: Plato (20%)
  • My #7 is: Sextus Empiricus (10%)
  • My #8 is: Nietzsche (0%)
  • My #9 is: Protagoras (0%)

LoveHappiness Nihilist Hippie Since: Dec, 2010
Nihilist Hippie
#34: Apr 2nd 2011 at 7:09:40 PM

My #1 is: Cynic

My #2 is: Epicurean

My #3 is: Stoic

My #4 is: Platonist

My #5 is: Socratic

My #6 is: Pythagorean

My #7 is: Cyrenaeic (hedonist)

My #8 is: Sophist

Only the first three have values. tongue

Not surprising results, I guess.

The second quiz, I didn't really have a strong opinion on anything so I just put "I don't know" for all of them.

edited 2nd Apr '11 7:29:26 PM by LoveHappiness

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ViralLamb Since: Jun, 2010
#35: Apr 2nd 2011 at 8:23:34 PM

I got the same results as the OP.

It's surprising how much I identify with the Stoics. I didn't think I did because every time I think of the Stoics my mind goes to the trope page tongue

One of the very few quizzes that I feel was accurate. Cool.

edited 2nd Apr '11 8:24:08 PM by ViralLamb

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TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#36: Apr 2nd 2011 at 9:19:25 PM

[up]Iknowright?

After looking at the page for stoicism, I was quite amazed. The only thing that differs me from it is that it was originally "a pagan philosophy", but that isn't even something to be counted.

And indeed, this test was surprisingly accurate.

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ViralLamb Since: Jun, 2010
#37: Apr 2nd 2011 at 9:56:44 PM

Stoics and Lesswrong. Seem to go together well.

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TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#38: Apr 2nd 2011 at 10:25:16 PM

I like love Less Wrong, but I'm devoutly Christian. Strange forces are at work at here. In any case, it makes sense that the two would go together well.

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ViralLamb Since: Jun, 2010
#39: Apr 3rd 2011 at 1:22:44 AM

What did you mean in the OP by "(the last two got zero points)"?

Btw, am I allowed to make a topic about Lesswrong in this forum? I've been wanting to but I'm not sure if that's in accordance with the rules or what?

edited 3rd Apr '11 1:23:22 AM by ViralLamb

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lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe Since: Jan, 2001
KVLFON
#40: Apr 3rd 2011 at 5:28:07 AM

[up][up] And I thought of you as a decent person.

[up] If you are to do so, do it on Monday, and let it die before the weekend, this way I won't have to see it.

[/is a hater] cool

Getting back to topic, the second test gave me Augustine and Aquinas as first two, and somewhere around there Kant. Looks like it's only too easy to get the first two if you pick a religiously-themed option.

[edit]

Did it again. Now it is:

  • Aquinas
  • Augustine
  • Plato
  • Aristotle
  • Kant
  • Hume
  • Protagoras
I can say that I like it.

edited 3rd Apr '11 5:49:52 AM by lordGacek

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TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
PARTY HARD!!!!
#41: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:50:37 AM

[up][up]I meant that they had a completely empty bar.

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Mullerornis Adveho in mihi Lucifer from Iberia Since: Mar, 2011
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#42: Apr 3rd 2011 at 10:09:05 AM

I am a stoicist platonist.

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Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#43: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:45:22 PM

First:

  • Stoic
  • Socratic
  • Cyrenaeic
  • Platonist
  • Cynic
  • Sophist
  • Epicurean

No points in the last 3. Which is more that weird. This one, stoic? No way

Second

  • Kant
  • Aquinas
  • Aristotle
  • Augustine
  • Hume
  • Plato
  • Protagoras
  • Sextus Empiricus
  • Nietzsche (no points)

Now that is closer to truth, for Kant is indeed someone this one finds herself agreeing with often. More often than with any other philosopher this one read about so far, even. Very surprised to find Aquinas on the second place, though. Thought it would be lower.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#44: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:54:41 PM

I dunno, stoicism seems like it would match you. Why not?

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BlackHumor Unreliable Narrator from Zombie City Since: Jan, 2001
#45: Apr 3rd 2011 at 8:10:10 PM

Stoicism in a nutshell:

Things cannot make you happy or sad, only ideas about things. Therefore true happiness is achievable, if you can only discard your thought that it's dependent on the outside world.

Also, it is very important that you keep your mind free of the influence of others, for if you don't you've given your only real possession away.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#46: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:35:01 PM

  • Stoic and Socratic: Full bars
  • Platonist: Almost full
  • Cynic: 3/4s full
  • Pythagorean: a little over half. Everything else is a zero.

For the second quiz:

  • Augustine (no surprise there)
  • Aquinus
  • Aristotle
  • Kant
  • Hume

Nothing surprising there; My only issue with the quiz is that the options for the questions sometimes have more nuance than just "I agree" or "I disagree", but I guess those types of limitations are to be expected.

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TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#47: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:50:37 PM

[up]I think that is part of what the priority bars are for. Quite nifty, I think.

Also:

~highfives everyone that got "stoic" and "Augustine"~

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Linhasxoc Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
#48: Apr 3rd 2011 at 10:03:38 PM

First test:

  1. Stoic
  2. Platonist
  3. Pythagorean
  4. Socratic
  5. Epicurean
  6. Cynic
  7. Cyrenaeic
  8. Sophist


Second Test:
  1. Kant
  2. Aristotle
  3. Augustine
  4. Aquinas
  5. Hume
  6. Plato
  7. Nietzsche
  8. Protagoras
  9. Sextus Empiricus

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#49: Apr 3rd 2011 at 10:25:53 PM

Apparently I'm a sophist and therefore always full of shit.

I think I took this test wrong.

Aha, apparently answering (Having the most intelligent resposne makes you right) boosts my sophist score like crazy.

Without it I'm a Socratic.

edited 3rd Apr '11 10:27:24 PM by Thorn14

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#50: Apr 3rd 2011 at 10:27:52 PM

Do they mean Sophism the historical philosophical Greek school, or sophistry, the insulting term for empty argumentation?

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