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AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#1: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:26:48 AM

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But the strong feminist themes of the series are built on a foundation of political contradictions. The most fantastic element of the show is not that ponies can talk or that dragons exist; it is the illusion that an egalitarian society can be maintained among groups with massive biologically inherent gaps in ability and economic utility. By even the most cursory of sociological and economic analyses, the society in MLP: Fi M should be highly stratified along class and racial lines. And there are clear signs of that stratification, except they are obscured by a propagandistic focus on the power of “friendship”.

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#3: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:41:52 AM

Dude, it's a cartoon for little girls.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:48:28 AM

Yes but it is also secretly EVIL!

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#7: Mar 31st 2011 at 7:49:31 AM

"If your society is governed a literal god-empress, the focus on 'friendship' may be nothing more than an attempt to suppress racial consciousness and dissent."

[lol]

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#8: Mar 31st 2011 at 8:43:22 AM

Hey, I came to a similar conclusion. Don't ask why I did an analysis of the economy of a show I don't like, it was related to debate class and the absurdly large number of fans in that class.

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#9: Mar 31st 2011 at 8:47:33 AM

This should be in that "Entries that make you go Wut" thread.

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captainbrass2 from the United Kingdom Since: Mar, 2011
#10: Mar 31st 2011 at 11:16:16 AM

Cartoon ponies have now officially become Serious Business.

Makes me less embarrassed for once having made the effort to point out that the economy of the Elves in Lord of The Rings didn't work.

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TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#11: Mar 31st 2011 at 11:49:59 AM

Friendship doesn't seem to be propaganda to me, in this case. More like a necessity. Perhaps Celestia can't get any other system to work, specifically because of racial problems. The only way to prevent this is keeping everyone ignorant. And from what we can see, this is actually working without anypony getting hurt.

In these respects, Celestia is doing a brilliant job (assuming nothing sinister is going on behind closed doors). Even if it is maintained by ignorance, everypony is still happy anyhow, and if it were to fade, war could result.

Thus Equestria is a very good society, even if it is impossible in real life. Perhaps the situation they're in makes it honestly work without any inconsistencies.

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#12: Mar 31st 2011 at 11:55:45 AM

It probably helps that they've got a goddess running it.

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AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#14: Mar 31st 2011 at 2:37:56 PM

I know. Doesn't make it any less fun.

The thing about making witty signature lines is that it first needs to actually be witty.
HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#15: Mar 31st 2011 at 2:40:18 PM

That was Charlie Sheen level winning right there. Duh.

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#16: Mar 31st 2011 at 3:43:13 PM

Is there a my little Pony fanatic digging all this up?

I'd be happy to see TV Tropes demographics expand, just curious as to how many fans are here?

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#17: Mar 31st 2011 at 4:12:25 PM

I'm not, but not for any reason. Just haven't picked it up yet.

Charlie Tunoku is a lover and a fighter.
Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Mar 31st 2011 at 4:25:19 PM

Unironically liking My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic is already a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, but that's probably not as bad as the fact that I'm genuinely enjoying this analysis as well. These are the sort of questions that have come up for me while watching it, and it was really good to see that someone else was thinking about it too. It does seem that they missed a few things that, though individually minor, together wreck the thesis (the main one that comes to mind is that all the one-shot celebrity characters were earth ponies, as far as I remember), but that doesn't mean the analytical method was invalid.

Also, from the comments:

I saw the preview for next weeks episode, Pinkie Pie makes sunglasses that reveal the unicorns true skeletal alien form and all the cutie marks say “No Independent Thought” and “Stay Asleep”, it was weird.

[awesome]

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#19: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:05:44 PM

I'm kind of sick and silly at the moment. Would now be a good time to try to start?

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
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#20: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:37:42 PM

I don't think the ponies getting along as a society is a result of propaganda or ignorance. I think the culture tends towards cooperation and generosity. The developed towns also seem well off enough that there doesn't appear to be any serious economic hardship for any individual.

The latest episode did have a significant conflict over resources, but that was with another species and culture. It's interesting to note that neither side was above using (non-lethal) violence to resolve the dispute in their favor.

[up]I don't see why not.

edited 31st Mar '11 5:37:52 PM by Gelzo

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#21: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:44:25 PM

Where can I find episode 1?

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#22: Mar 31st 2011 at 5:56:08 PM

Actually, the first episode is available for download for free on iTunes in HD. I could also point you to some less than legal downloads. Is it okay to post the link on the forum? Maybe I should PM it.

If you're less of a graphics snob, you can watch it on You Tube.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#23: Mar 31st 2011 at 6:11:13 PM

Not at all a graphics snob, youtube will do nicely.

Found a site that links to them, so far so good with EP 1.

Charlie Tunoku is a lover and a fighter.
DemoralizedAnt Book Fort is Best Fort from Chairman Cheng's broom closet Since: Jun, 2011
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#24: Feb 10th 2012 at 7:17:18 AM

The reason why there's no racial or class conflicts between the Ponies is simply this. Hate is considered a very bad thing in Equestria, and by very bad I mean deadly dangerous. They explain it in "Hearth's Warming Eve". See it for details.

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randomtropeloser Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Feb 10th 2012 at 9:08:22 AM

I sure hope my proposition to change the name of "Overthinking it" to "Making a ton of random assumptions followed by 'ZOMGOSH ITS A CONSPIRUCY GUYZ!!!'" goes through.

edited 10th Feb '12 9:08:33 AM by randomtropeloser


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