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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#10076: Apr 24th 2014 at 12:01:15 PM

Could you realistically handwave a Special Ops soldier knowing how to drive a tank(Abrams) and Helicopter(Apache or Cobra) proficiently as "What? You thought Special Forces training was all physical workouts?"

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#10077: Apr 24th 2014 at 12:22:44 PM

I'd say no. Those people have way too much to learn in their particular field to justify learning skills that would rarely benefit them.

Maybe like super special James Bond type stuff? That would be more plausible.

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#10079: Apr 24th 2014 at 12:35:08 PM

The relevant trope is Do-Anything Soldier, and as noted on that page, everyone is trained in the rudiments of infantry combat—but that doesn't work in reverse. Learning to drive a tank, although not with proficiency, is within the realm of possibility (although heaven help him if it's one of those Russian tanks that were optimized for left-handed dwarves with enormous arm strength); a helicopter or plane is right out.

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#10080: Apr 24th 2014 at 1:01:45 PM

The basics of a tank or most land vehicles are fairly easy but as said before any sort of military aircraft is right out.

Oh really when?
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#10081: Apr 24th 2014 at 1:16:23 PM

How come? Even the basics of just starting it up, and just flying to get the hell out of there without doing anything remotely fancy is too much?

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#10082: Apr 24th 2014 at 1:18:07 PM

Flying like an F-16 or an Apache is a bit different than flying some cute little Cessna.

Lots of scary switches and pre flight checks and buttons and so on. Plus you might need more than one person.

Oh really when?
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#10083: Apr 24th 2014 at 1:40:12 PM

[up][up]Yes. Helicopters are complicated beasts compared to fixed-wing aircraft. It's possible to learn how to drive a tank in a few hours, or at least just enough to get from point A to point B; it is emphatically not possible without a lot of aviation experience for a helicopter, which flies very differently from a Cessna.

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#10084: Apr 24th 2014 at 2:07:17 PM

Aircraft are highly technical machines; it's generally not as simple as starting up the engines and setting off without a care in the world. You have to follow the checklists, follow proper operating procedures, and so on. The techniques that are necessary to fly an aircraft are very different to those required for land vehicles.

Add to this the high performance and unforgiving nature of military aircraft, and you've got a recipe for tears when someone tries to naively take one up for a spinnote .

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#10085: Apr 24th 2014 at 2:46:44 PM

I hear getting it back on the ground without breaking it or yourself is even trickier than getting it up in the air.tongue

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#10086: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:49:42 PM

You can learn to drive a tank in about four hours. It will be several months before anyone would want you doing so in combat.

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#10087: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:02:25 PM

What are some potential combat and utility applications for superpowers that give you complete control over the four fundamental forces (i.e. electromagnetism, strong force, weak force, gravity)? Please be as creative as possible. It doesn't matter if you stretch the laws of physics just a tad.

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#10088: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:33:28 PM

For nuclear forces, couldn't you just do what Doctor Manhattan does and release the bonds of people's atoms? They'd just fall apart. That seems pretty overpowered though.

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#10089: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:35:57 PM

Overpowered is good.

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#10090: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:37:19 PM

At that point, you're basically god. Creativity requires constraints.

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#10091: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:39:36 PM

Then how about increasing gravity on a certain part of a person, basically tearing them apart?

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#10092: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:44:12 PM

[up][up]It's a group thing. Each member only has one of the four forces, and they don't really get along. I'm working on other limitations, but right now I'm just trying to get a feel for what each of them can do on their own.

[up]Gravity is weak in the micro-scale but it seems like it'd be one of the more overtly powerful forces in the macro.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#10093: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:51:12 PM

Everyone can basically cause instant disintegration. Except for the gravity guy, I'm not sure about him.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
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#10094: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:47:34 AM

Squish people I guess

Oh really when?
m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#10095: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:59:41 AM

or compress Earth into a tiny black hole.

edited 25th Apr '14 10:49:16 AM by m8e

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#10096: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:16:57 AM

Gravity guy could possibly pull off a Force Push of epic proportions. Like Team Rocket-style blasting off, but with realistic consequences.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
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#10097: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:44:38 AM

Seeing as gravity is simply a consequence of the curvature of spacetime, control of gravity means you can warp space and time.

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#10098: Apr 25th 2014 at 10:43:28 AM

Relativistic effects on a personal scale. Have fun with that.

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#10099: Apr 25th 2014 at 12:40:45 PM

This is why Marvel and DC are ridiculous. Overpowered bullshit does no one any favors.

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