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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#1: Mar 14th 2011 at 9:43:40 PM

The film The Red Baron is frequently mistaken for the trope Red Baron. It's not a well-wicked film, so I don't think bumping it to the Film namespace and making the main a redirect for the trope will hurt anything.

Alternatively, we could rename Red Baron. Although with 600+ wicks (although low inbounds) that seems unlikely to go through.

EDIT: This is why I should not create threads late at night. I have screwed up the thread title. How embarrassing.

edited 14th Mar '11 10:11:17 PM by ccoa

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2: Mar 14th 2011 at 9:56:16 PM

You should be able to edit it to fix it.

(The thread title, I mean.)

edited 14th Mar '11 9:56:42 PM by MorganWick

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#3: Mar 14th 2011 at 9:59:13 PM

Not that I can find.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#4: Mar 14th 2011 at 10:04:51 PM

You have to click to change the title.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#5: Mar 14th 2011 at 10:09:43 PM

That doesn't change the title, it changes the linked article. Which helps, thanks, but doesn't completely fix the problem.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Mar 14th 2011 at 10:38:22 PM

Oh, you want to change the title. Holler to a mod.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#7: Mar 14th 2011 at 11:41:25 PM

It is a poorly-named trope. When I first saw it, I assumed that it had something to do with piloting ability.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#9: Mar 15th 2011 at 1:29:00 AM

Why not just swap with the redirect?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#11: Mar 15th 2011 at 4:22:14 AM

Well, in the meantime, I added Film.Red Baron as a redirect to The Red Baron so that the "Film" tab shows up on Red Baron.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#12: Mar 15th 2011 at 5:32:54 AM

The redirect is a nice, clear title for the trope (Badass Nickname). Another possibility is Only Known By A Badass Nickname, which is even clearer, but long.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#13: Mar 15th 2011 at 7:49:28 AM

The film's name is The Red Baron. That's the one we want in the Film. Namespace. Media namespaces should not redirect to main namespaces unless it's unavoidable.

edited 15th Mar '11 7:49:49 AM by Madrugada

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#14: Mar 15th 2011 at 8:07:15 AM

[up] I'm not the only one who likes having the tabs link between different works of the same name, am I? wild mass guess

Rhymes with "Protracted."
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#15: Mar 15th 2011 at 8:53:56 AM

But Red Baron and The Red Baron aren't the same name...

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#16: Apr 11th 2011 at 10:09:11 AM

Bumping this. This seems like a fairly open and shut case to me, but I don't feel like I have consensus for it yet.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#17: Apr 11th 2011 at 2:04:33 PM

Since it's been stated that the best case scenario would have all works in their appropriate namespace, any work title that causes problems in Main should be a shoe-in to get moved. Support.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#18: Apr 12th 2011 at 12:11:43 AM

I'm not sure if we've settled on anything to support.

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#19: Apr 12th 2011 at 9:23:55 AM

I'm not sure what needs to get done. Red Baron was already turned into a redirect for The Red Baron, right? Or did you want that moved to The Red Baron?

Also, I vote swapping the Red Baron trope for its redirect Badass Nickname. I know a lot of people are sick of badass tropes, but you can't deny its more clear.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#20: Apr 13th 2011 at 6:22:17 AM

No, we haven't done anything yet.

The Red Baron should get moved to the Film namespace, probably no matter what we do. The questions are:

  • Do we rename Red Baron? It's easily mistaken for the film and for "enemy ace" or even "ace pilot." I will do a wick check to see how often this happens.

  • Depending on what we do above, what do we do with the main namespaced The Red Baron page?

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#21: Apr 13th 2011 at 7:54:07 PM

Until the trope Red Baron gets its name changed, Main.The Red Baron ought to be a disambiguation page. If we rename Red Baron, then I suppose we can just make Main.The Red Baron a redirect to Film.The Red Baron.

edited 13th Apr '11 7:55:11 PM by MetaFour

I didn't write any of that.
Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#22: Apr 13th 2011 at 10:08:44 PM

Made a topic about renaming Red Baron. I agree with it being not a very clear title.

edited 13th Apr '11 10:08:56 PM by Unknownlight

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#23: Apr 14th 2011 at 10:55:51 AM

Alright, I'll move to Film namespace and make a disambig. This can prolly be locked.

edited 14th Apr '11 10:56:06 AM by ccoa

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