Bump.
Also, I don't think this is really a YMMV trope if it is the author acknowledging it as a Scrappy. Sure, The Scrappy is YMMV, but if an author delibrately does something to a character because they think they're a Scrappy, that's objective.
Anything bad whatsoever happening to a character that happens to be a Scrappy would be YMMV, but I'm not sure that'd actually be a trope.
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The thing is, this trope is about the Author doing something bad to a character. Keeping it YMMV would only be about the scrappy status. But I don't think that's important to the trope so much as the Author being bad to a character(one they hate, one others hate, etc.)
The wording on the intro doesn't designate it HAS to be a scrappy 100%. Maybe there's a problem with that alone?
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Now it's YMMV? That basically turns it into The Same But More Specific. It's The Scrappy plus fans doing bad things to the character, which The Scrappy already implies.
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"The author does bad things to a character" is more along the lines of one of those Butt-Monkey things.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
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"The author does bad things to a character"
This is not that. I mean "The author does bad things to a character that the fandom has made it clear they hate, specifically because of that hate".
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Bump. I don't think this is resolved.
Does Trope repair shop cover images? cause i have a suggestion 
I see the Awesomeness.
No, that's Image Pickin'. Also, you can't hotlink images.
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Would "Scrappy Gets Told" be a more acceptable, less ambiguous title?
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Downvoted cutting to keep the 55 inbounds.
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There seems to be a lack of consensus for both items on the crowner.
Are there any new proposals to vote on?
edited 11th Apr '12 3:29:03 PM by MetaFour
Added one, because Septimus rises a good point against cutting.
What is the difference between "Move all examples to The Scrappy or Butt Monkey as appropriate, then turn this into a redirect" and "Merge with The Scrappy"? Looks to me like the only difference is that the former includes Butt-Monkey. Given that the one is at +2 and the other is at -5, if that option wins we'd be merging this with Butt-Monkey? That sounds...suboptimal.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Merging this with Butt-Monkey makes no sense. This isn't about bad things happening to a character. This is about bad things happening to The Scrappy because he's The Scrappy. It's a kind of Fandom Nod. It's an acknowledgment that fans hate a particular character.
If there are examples that don't fit, just remove them.
" by definition bad things already happen to a scrappy, otherwise he wouldn't be The Scrappy"
This is just a false statement. The Scrappy's defining characteristic is being hated by the fanbase.
EDIT: Downvoted all suggestions because the proposal is based on a false premise and the page is fine if the bad examples are culled. And agree this page is not subjective; it's a close relative of Discontinuity Nod.
edited 16th Apr '12 5:53:24 PM by ChadM
Calling crowner. Lack of consensus to do anything.
Any other proposals or should this be closed?
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Crown Description:
The page is used for bad things happening to The Scrappy; however, by definition bad things already happen to a scrappy, otherwise he wouldn't be The Scrappy. The page is The Same But More.
Is this supposed to be the writers giving a direct nod to the audience hating a character? If so, then it has loads of bad examples where the nod is clearly not there.
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