Republicans move to redefine rape to limit taxpayer-funded abortions

What about in the case of mental illness?

If they're sane enough to make a contract, they're sane enough to kill themselves. And if you ask "but how can someone who wants to commit suicide be sane?" I'll tell you to shut up.

I don't think you have to be particularly sane to make a contract.

I'd assume most failed suicides fail precisely because they're a cry for help and not a genuine testimonial to the person not wanting to live.

What exactly is "sane", anyways?

How about NOT wanting to fucking kill yourself and we will work from there .

You DO have to be sane to enter into a contract. Otherwise, there's no "consideration" and crap like that. But lots of people who commit suicide could easily be considered to be undergoing what is known as temporary insanity.

Now, those who are PERSISTENTLY suicidal may often be lost causes-and as a Right to Die advocate, I can't say I support imposing upon their right to do so.

Just like I don't support redefining rape to limit taxpayer-funded abortions.

edited 11th Feb '11 5:56:04 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

Okay but should there be taxpayer funded assisted suicides?

edited 11th Feb '11 6:34:39 PM by joeyjojo

Stand outside of a walmart and ask for money to buy some bleach. It's not that expensive.

@Deboss: Most suicidal people don't just want death, they want death with dignity. The greedily bastards.

edited 11th Feb '11 6:50:00 PM by joeyjojo

Then buy a damn container of sleeping pills instead of bleach.

But my doctor won't prescribe me anything!

Personally I would-THIS POST WAS THUMPED FOR BEING OFF TOPIC.

Prescription nothing, there are plenty of medications you can get over-the-counter for which an overdose would be lethal.

Like others said, though, suicide is often the result of temporary insanity and people can often be helped into no longer wanting to die.

Prescription nothing, there are plenty of medications you can get over-the-counter for which an overdose would be lethal.

edited 11th Feb '11 7:57:02 PM by joeyjojo

Yo Dawg, I heard you like on-topic conversations, so we put derails in your rerails so you can get thumped while you thump.

Oh Tomu we lost sight of the OP long long long ago.

edited 11th Feb '11 8:41:44 PM by joeyjojo

I added that as my sig line because I figure this entire page will probably be thumped eventually.

So what were we arguing about again?

*skims the OP*

I think everything that could be said has be said.

edited 11th Feb '11 8:47:50 PM by joeyjojo

Er, might want to shift this to a "Right to Die" topic.

In fact, I'll do that now. Self-assisted suicide and the like aren't that related to redefining rape.

Hey, check it out, Bobby Franklin just came up with another instant classic.

Links to actual text of bill in article.

Oh my. Now that is utterly insane.

It is, however, the logical conclusion of the "person from the moment of conception" position. That's what I've been saying all along. Someone should tell Franklin that it was a warning, not a suggestion.

Indeed. I've been mentioning it as a logical conclusion too.

Yay for getting domestic abusers more tools to control their victims.

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Well, they better start rounding up all women and put a bullet between their eyes. After all, during menstruation potential lifes are also wasted. The women are clearly to blame for not having sex with their husband (of course they have a husband: those women that don't ought to be shot too) whenever they can so they produce more new lifes and never waste any potential life.

And they should also lower the age of consent to a girl's first menstruation, for the same reason.

Seriously, WTF are these people smoking? Are they, like, clinically insane?

And will this be applied without Double Standard if it makes it into law, e.g. if a man has sex with his wife, and his semen is of subpar quality, will he be sentenced to the death penalty for failing to conceive a child?

edited 24th Feb '11 9:20:02 AM by TheStupidExclamationMark

I think the fact that it clearly flies in the face of Roe v. Wade is enough to rule this one out: you might as well try to introduce a bill that re-introduces segregation for all the chance that will have.

Not too worried about this one, unless it manages to go to vote; then it would actually be further along than the redefined rape bill.