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sgrunt Sigil Spam from the depths of your mind Since: Apr, 2009
#1: Jan 22nd 2011 at 9:25:45 PM

Go on, Guess That Trope Definition. I'll wait.

Back? I was expecting a News Trope relating to the stock phrase and/or breaking news, which could be a trope to itself, but we'd need the name for that. I was not expecting Captain Obvious Exposition (which might make a good alternate title).

For the sake of completeness:

This Just In! found in: 18 articles, excluding discussions.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jan 22nd 2011 at 9:42:57 PM

Glad I Thought of It. No, seriously: I did think to myself that this name might be better used for a different trope, after renaming this one something like State The Obvious, or The Audience Has To Be Told, or Obviously Redundant Observation.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#3: Jan 22nd 2011 at 11:33:21 PM

Wow. Was this created during the same era as Hold Your Horses and Get On With It Already?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#4: Jan 23rd 2011 at 12:01:49 AM

We're getting a whole slew of these horrible names lately.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Jan 23rd 2011 at 5:01:43 AM

It sounds like something that happened with a forum meme or something.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#6: Jan 23rd 2011 at 7:47:05 AM

There's a huge amount of overlap with Captain Obvious, no?

I suppose the tropes could be differentiated as Captain Obvious being about characters saying obvious things and this trope being about non-character narration and the like.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#7: Jan 23rd 2011 at 12:11:43 PM

Well, it's clearly a separate phenomenon from Captain Obvious when it's used to express visual elements ("He's got a gun!") in a non-visual medium like Radio, or non-visual elements ("The smell is overpowering!") in a visual medium like comic books, or in the "Tell" part of Show, Don't Tell ("I can't sleep.") when it's not shown. I don't know if the examples support that usage.

(In other words, Captain Obvious is obvious to the viewers; this trope is obvious to the characters, but not necessarily the viewers.)

edited 23rd Jan '11 12:14:24 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#8: Jan 23rd 2011 at 1:24:42 PM

That's not what the page says.

Any line in a movie or show that tells us what it was we just saw. "He got away!" "It's a trap!" "They are shooting at us!"

Distinct from As You Know in that everyone in the audience and the cast do, in fact, know this.

The difference between this an Captain Obvious should be obvious  *

: Captain Obvious is a character and this is what a Captain Obvious does. It can be done without having a Captain Obvious character, though.

edited 23rd Jan '11 1:24:50 PM by Madrugada

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#9: Jan 23rd 2011 at 1:29:22 PM

I was going more off of this, which seems to imply my interpretation:

Possibly a holdover from the days of radio, where it was necessary for characters to describe the action for the audience.
Anyway, that definition of Captain Obvious isn't very well-supported by its wicks. I usually see it potholed with any Stating Of The Obvious.

edited 23rd Jan '11 1:29:56 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Jan 23rd 2011 at 2:29:02 PM

Probably becuase This Just In! is such a completely unintuitive name for the action. But the Captain Obvious page makes it clear that it's a character type, not the action;

He strives to be Mr Exposition... But there's something wrong with his exposition. Most of the time, whatever he has to say should already be obvious — both to the viewers and to any other character with half a brain. After saying anything, another character might state "Gee, you think?"

In other words, Captain Obvious states the obvious. This means that his statements are self-evident.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11: Jan 23rd 2011 at 2:34:28 PM

I get the feeling that a lot of times when Captain Obvious is potholed it's editors referring to themselves as Captain Obvious.

edited 23rd Jan '11 2:34:49 PM by shimaspawn

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Marshmello from Halifax, Canada Since: May, 2009
#12: Jan 23rd 2011 at 3:48:13 PM

Clearly the current name is an attempt at sarcasm, but that only becomes clear if you've read the article. Potholes to it just wouldn't make much sense, because (as you mentioned) it sounds like a "breaking news" trope.

I'm okay with Captain Obvious Exposition, though it does imply that Captain Obvious is the source when that's not always the case. Perhaps just Obvious Exposition or Unnecessary Exposition?

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#13: Jan 23rd 2011 at 3:58:26 PM

I think the reason the name was chosen was that it's sometimes used as a snarky reply to the statement described by the trope.

edited 23rd Jan '11 3:58:37 PM by BlackWolfe

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#14: Jan 23rd 2011 at 4:06:39 PM

Hmm, Obvious Exposition seems good to me, and draws a fairly clear line between the Captain Obvious character-based exposition and other sorts.

I'm thinking:

  • Captain Obvious: In a comic book, the art clearly shows The Flash being strangled by a giant octopus. He says "*Gasp* I'm being strangled by a giant octopus!"
  • Obvious Exposition: In a comic book, the art clearly shows The Flash being strangled by a giant octopus. While the Flash is silent, a narrative caption reads "The Scarlet Speedster is being strangled by a giant octopus!"

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sgrunt Sigil Spam from the depths of your mind Since: Apr, 2009
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#18: Jan 24th 2011 at 3:14:31 PM

[up][up][up]Exactly the kind of information you expect from the Department of Redundancy Department

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TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:55:17 PM

Redundant Exposition Is Redundant tongue

Pretentious quote || In-joke from fandom you've never heard of || Shameless self-promotion || Something weird you'll habituate to
Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Jan 24th 2011 at 9:52:57 PM

"I like Redundant Exposition," Camacan posted to the forum thread. "It's simple and accurate." he opined, continuing his posting by adding words.

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#22: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:49:12 AM

I was thinking of suggesting Redundant Exposition last night when I was at work. I'm glad someone beat me to it before I got home, because I forgot. sad

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:16:41 AM

What about the cases where it's not redundant because it was added for an audio version?

BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:18:17 AM

Do we have a trope for Radio Teleplay Exposition? "[foley crash] He's coming in the room! Careful, he's got a gun! [gunshot]"

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#25: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:05:08 AM

If it's something that is there to provide information the characters of audience doesn't already have, it's not this trope. So a lot of the exposition in radio plays is necessary — the audience can hear the sound effect, but has no idea what it was supposed to indicate unless they're told.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

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