How plausible is it to get an anime made?

I'd like to request that if you don't get Japan, do Western Animation a favor and please don't go for Animesque look. The market needs to be shown traditional Western Animation principles can apply to drama as well as comedy, and knowing the industry, if something like this succeeded with an Animesque look, they'd just take it as evidence anime is the hot thing.

edited 14th Dec '10 6:19:38 AM by Ronnie

That is actually a really good point. I'll have to talk to my designer about that, since I figured one thing I wanted to do was to break the Animation Age Ghetto in the West...I know, one show alone can't do it but I figure it needs a start. On the other hand, if the show was Animesque like you said then the Western market possibly wouldn't take it as such a blow to the Animation Age Ghetto.

UPDATE: Just talked about getting a teaser produced. Could cost anywhere from $10,000 to $100,000. (!) Will still pay for it though. Eventually. In the meantime, I was told to focus on getting into a writer's guild, getting an animation-based agent and a lawyer. And send my scripts back to a script doctor. My holiday break is going to be busy.

edited 14th Dec '10 8:07:52 AM by darkclaw

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Keep in mind that the actual animation for most shows is outsourced. With almost all American 'toons, for example, the character designs, scripts, and storyboards are done here, while various studios overseas (usually in South Korea) do the animation itself.

edited 14th Dec '10 10:34:30 AM by RTaco

This is pretty much a matter of idle curiosity, but I would love to see some character designs. The exposure couldn't hurt, and we could help you figure out, if not anime or animesque, how you could "westernize" the style.

Though, except in shitty webcomics, I have no problem with animesque, and if you do it well people probably won't know the difference.

@Darkclaw: You've taken my harsher-than-intended advice pretty well — you seem like you're actually willing to work long, thankless hours to do what you love, and swallow your pride as necessary, so you might have a chance. The other advice you've gotten in this thread seems pretty decent, especially the stuff from people who've actually seen the business closer than I have. Good luck, kid  ^*

, you'll need it.

Oh, and for the record: I was actually thinking of Hulk Hogan, not Joe Quesada. Just goes to show there's one of those blighters in every business, I suppose...

@ Killer Clowns,

Thanks for the kind words. With Sincerity Mode on, it really does mean a lot. I hope I can make it in the industry and though there every day I get closer (I hope), it takes a LOT to get in. Apparently, you can get rejected dozens of times before you actually get anything made and I still need to perfect everything before I even think of getting rejected. With all the hard odds, it's always helpful to hear words of encouragement in the midst of the near impossible to overcome circumstances.

However, in the immortal words of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and the legendary Kamina..."Go Beyond the Impossible and kick reason to the curb!"

@ Dae Brayk

If you could give me some time to contact my character designer, it would be appreciated. Both of us are in our knees in homework...and I really don't want to bother her until the break, just in case. I'll give an answer as to if I can post character designs soon.

edited 15th Dec '10 7:37:02 PM by darkclaw

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It would be next to impossible to get an anime made. Japan already has thousands of people who dream of just that, including people like manga authors and animators who have already had successes of their own. Furthermore, most studios don't risk their money on new ideas, instead they adapt existing properties like popular mangas or novels. When they do do original stories, it's stories made by established, successful directors who they can trust and who they've already worked closely with. And finally, if they were going to take unsolicited submissions for big budget projects, the last thing they would do is pick up a show from some foreigner who doesn't even speak japanese. Anime is a very japanese industry, it would be a slap in the face to everybody who works in it if they were to just pick some nobody from an entirely different country, and plop him right in one of the industry's best positions.

Anyway, cynicism aside, this is something I've put some thought into, having similar-ish goals myself, and I'd be interested in discussing this further with you. But I don't really use the tv tropes forums very much, do you have msn or skype or anything like that, that I could use to talk to you?

ps: I'm currently studying animation, so I'm curious what school it is you're attending, since I probably know of it.

Sorry for the really late reply, I've been really busy lately and when I thought I was not busy, I became sick . Oh well, I'm better now. Anyways, I would be interested in further discussion with you, so I sent a PM. If anyone else wants to discuss this further with me, PM me, since I don't want this to become a thread that keeps popping up and bothering people. The irony is that by posting this, it will at least briefly become that. Oops.

EDIT: Also, my artist doesn't want me to put up any pictures at the moment. Sorry.

edited 2nd Jan '11 2:31:48 PM by darkclaw

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Pshh, don't worry about "bothering us." This is definitely one of the more interesting threads, and that's what forums are for. Understandable about the art though.

I already have considered doing major work on animation,but decided an anime'll be toooo much work for poor old me

In an anime, I'll be the Tsundere Dark Magical Girl who likes purple MY own profile is actually HERE!

An anime seems like a lot of work, and it is, but if you don't give up, I think you could achieve making one. Anyone could in my opinion as anything is possible. And I sound really corny right now, but I mean what I say.

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Well darkclaw im doing something a little different from you, instead of trying to making the anime myself or with a group of people. Im actually looking to make a deal with those anime companies and have them make the anime from story board to final production in house with input from me.

To me honest either way seem to work but this way is the 1% different from what the other 99% seem to be doing at the moment

@ bzald

Best of luck :)

BTW, that is pretty much what I'm trying to do as well...it's just that before I do that, I want all the materials they might want to see before greenlighting my show.

edited 29th Aug '11 9:59:23 PM by darkclaw

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You might find this discussion a bit helpful.

By the way, it seems like we are aiming for a similar goal. That's cool.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.

cool D roy and darkclaw, if you need help with anything let me know i will see what i can come up with. I would also like to stay in contact if that ok as well, but on to a darker note what is wrong with those people special on your page D roy.

i understand what they are saying but they offer no helpful advice just forget it there no way in beep your going to be able to do it.

I'm already under the assumption that most of what I say will go unheard since I'm also assuming that since this thread was made, most or all of the work has already been started and/or well underway.

I'd say not to even bother with Japan. If you want to revolutionize something in the country you live in, and want to change the views of said country on your product and similar products in the same vein, don't bother with a foreign country.

With that in mind, learn from those that came before you. Look to Japan to see how things are done, especially since a lot of things from Japan seem "exotic" to other people in other countries. But for me, myself, personally *

, I'd look at Walt Disney. Same kind of problem (animation was seen as a joke, or primarily for comedic effect), same kind of business related issues (lack of a studio, lack of funds, etc.), and same kind of hopeful results (his studio produced a cartoon based off of a children's fairy tale that not only revolutionized how the American people view cartoons, but actually made people cry over a cartoon character, something that was, up until that point, thought to be completely stupid).

I can't say much for the business side of it all, and others have given you much better advice.

Just keep on truckin' I guess.

If that's your dream go for it. Dont care for stuff like " is it possible"

If it isn't possible make it possible. There is not a valid excuse not to fulfill a dream.

Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love.

This. Just go for it. Aiming to become a successful author is already a large gamble.

Regarding the art style, your instincts that it should be close to realistic are accurate. While it is possible to tell a serious story in a stylized manner, it's generally a safer bet to stay close to realistic. It's generally difficult to take a story seriously if, for instance, a character reacts to something shocking by having their eyes completely bulge out of their sockets.

The thing to remember however is that the character designs you're going to use along with the pitch are probably going to change a lot by the time the final production comes around. If you look at anything with initial character designs, things change a lot. Details are added and dropped depending on what works better in the animation process, and if more than one person is contributing to character design than different elements will have to be merged so everything is cohesive.

I can't really offer help in terms of pitching the story idea to executives yet, I am currently working on getting a degree in comic art but I haven't taken classes on that particular topic yet, just introductory stuff. ...I might be scheduled to take something along those lines this semester, actually. I can report if I get anything relevant.

Hate to bring down the idealistic line, but I have to say what everyone in RL has been telling me recently to answer to the thread topic.

"It is not wrong to hope to try to do something as implausible as writing a novel/making an anime. It is, however, wrong, reckless and irresponsible to both yourselves and your families to attempt that while not having an ample financial backing to support yourselves while you are following your dreams."

In other words, day jobs. Find them, and earn enough money to support yourself. Then you can follow the implausible. You do need financial security to do anything these days, that's the bottom line.

... I hope that is still remotely on topic.

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