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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

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Jeysie Diva of Virtual Death from Western Massachusetts Since: Jun, 2010
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#802: Aug 17th 2011 at 11:22:05 AM

OK, assuming I didn't screw it up somehow, Babylon Five is now split (since the trope list was already soft-split by letter anyway).

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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
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#803: Aug 17th 2011 at 1:22:46 PM

I think That Guy With The Glasses Index MIGHT have worked, if it didn't have an influx of new recruits over the last year and a half.

Split or delete?

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#804: Aug 17th 2011 at 1:25:12 PM

Hmm, can someone explain to me on Characters.Metaspace how Metaspace and Meta-technology are "characters"?

Looks like Headscratchers.Pokemon needs archiving again.

Taking on Prehistoric Life - Dinosaurs. And done.

Maybe not the best place to ask, but can a writing team "invoke" or "enforce" Moral Event Horizon?

Also, there's some nasty flamebait on WMG.The Legend Of Zelda about "the creators' intent for the timeline". Should I just axe that crap, rather than move it to its rightful place on WMG.The Legend Of Zelda Timeline?

edited 17th Aug '11 2:14:16 PM by OldManHoOh

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#805: Aug 17th 2011 at 2:26:45 PM

Okay, someone else do WMG.The Legend Of Zelda. This is way too much hassle as well as crackpot theories for me to handle. And this is speaking as a Zelda fan who understands bits and pieces of the timeline.

KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
Hm?
#806: Aug 17th 2011 at 4:40:29 PM

Split is done for "The Reason You Suck" Speech.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”
JackAlsworth Drop-Dead Cynical Since: Jul, 2009
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#807: Aug 17th 2011 at 4:48:14 PM

re:Metaspace: It was created (and is currently maintained by) someone who doesn't seem to know that we have an Unpublished Works section, because that's certainly what it is.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#808: Aug 17th 2011 at 5:02:23 PM

[up]Ahh, as it's unpublished, I'm guessing the answer is "no".

Even so, I was talking about the Character sheet (which I believe still goes on the Characters namespace, even if it should be indexed on Unpublished Works).

edited 17th Aug '11 5:03:00 PM by OldManHoOh

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
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#809: Aug 17th 2011 at 5:11:43 PM

Done TriumphantExample.D To F.

Also done FanNickname.Video Games.

edited 17th Aug '11 6:06:07 PM by OldManHoOh

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#810: Aug 17th 2011 at 11:15:12 PM

Next time somebody has a go, I'd appreciate screen shots for How To Split A Page.

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KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
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#811: Aug 18th 2011 at 12:23:14 AM

What exactly do you need screenshots of?

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#812: Aug 18th 2011 at 12:36:36 AM

Mostly, I want screen shots of interesting parts of the editing process. Anything where you have to click a button for instance, it's good to show people where the button is.

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Jeysie Diva of Virtual Death from Western Massachusetts Since: Jun, 2010
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#813: Aug 18th 2011 at 8:03:32 AM

@Deboss

You could try giving Girl Genius a go for your project; it too is already soft-split. It's just not split quite as conveniently as Babylon 5 was, so it's going to take a bit more time to figure out how many letter folders should go on which page. I just hadn't gotten around to it yet.

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emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#814: Aug 18th 2011 at 8:17:38 AM

I think the TGWTG index should be deleted. There's a ridiculous amount of people now updating, and what purpose does it serve?

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#815: Aug 18th 2011 at 8:19:28 AM

You're just not into it.

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emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#816: Aug 18th 2011 at 8:31:42 AM

I'm probably misunderstanding, but I do love the site. It's just I don't see the point in an index where everything that happens in a new review can be found on their respective pages.

KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
Hm?
#817: Aug 18th 2011 at 9:29:50 AM

I think Eddie's joking that you're not into TGWTG enough for you to understand, but I might be wrong.

@Deboss: I'll try to get some screens next time I split, which should be sometime today.

Edit: Did you want screens of splitting a work or a trope? I was going to do a trope.

edited 18th Aug '11 9:31:24 AM by KrisMahai

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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
It's super effective.
#818: Aug 18th 2011 at 10:13:00 AM

Done Real Life.

Anyone think that Characters.Bleach should be separated into something more legible than Bleach, Bleach 2, Bleach 2.1, Bleach 2.2 and Bleach 3? Call it a hunch, but I'm gathering they're not arc or season subtitles like "Torchwood: Miracle Day".

And I have no idea how the Trope Pantheons work; should Heroes And Villains be separated into Heroes and Villains?

edited 18th Aug '11 10:21:57 AM by OldManHoOh

KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
Hm?
#819: Aug 18th 2011 at 1:46:28 PM

^ Even though the titles aren't really indicative, the pages are organized and detail specific groups of characters. Additionally, Characters.Bleach has a key detailing what characters are on each character page.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#821: Aug 18th 2011 at 11:35:27 PM

Don't care whether it's a work or a trope.

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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
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#822: Aug 19th 2011 at 4:14:34 PM

Was planning to separate Awesome.Video Game Levels by genre, but what on Earth does Nights Into Dreams fit into?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#823: Aug 19th 2011 at 10:39:53 PM

I think it would be much better to split it based on alphabetical. Your much less likely to get arguments on what genre it fits in compared to what letter it starts with.

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OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England Since: Jul, 2010
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#825: Feb 8th 2012 at 5:10:03 PM

I'll work on splitting the That Guy With The Glasses Index page.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.

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