Rebuild of Evangelion

Somehow, I can imagine Shinji coming to terms with his acts and what it is to come with this something akin to this.

I'll keep myself in check and expect yet another Gainax Ending considering how the original ended up. Just so that I won't go "What, what? Whaaaaa-?!", I probably would anyway if that is the case.

edited 13th Oct '15 1:59:51 AM by YoKab

A fair point no one mentioned is that each movie manages to reconstruct the relation Shinji has with the Deuteragonist in comparison with the original series.

Case in point:

• 1.11: Misato is able to become the parental figure she yearned to be for Shinji.

• 2.22: Rei eventually comes to understand her value as a person is irreplaceable.

• 3.33: Kaworu acts as a guide for Shinji and both are in equal footing at the end.

Soooooo what does that spell for the next film? Asuka becomes the Deuteragonist?

If she does, I really hope that she doesn't end up as the love interest this time around, and not just because I'm not a fan of the Sx A ship. Not only does she have 14 years over him, but those two throughout the Rebuild saga have shown about as much chemistry as I have with my math instructor.

Not to mention that all those relationships became undone thanks to 3.33.

edited 13th Oct '15 12:51:21 AM by LDragon2

If we follow the patern, then yes, she would become the last deuteragonist.

As for the likehood of that happening, who knows? Mari wouldn't have told Shinji to help Asuka out just for teasing and Yuko did said that Asuka still feels alone.

So far, what we can be sure of is that everybody finds love in the end.

Kaworu did promise he and Shinji would see each other again.

Everybody finds love in the end = Together in Death?

edited 13th Oct '15 10:39:46 AM by TheAirman

Possibly. Although, I don't think Kaworu ever returned from his deaths in other media, save for the aversion for his death from one of the games.

edited 13th Oct '15 11:13:47 AM by konkarne

Maybe they all get reunited in Instrumentality? Or maybe he'll appear to Shinji right before the last battle or something.

I also hope that Shinji will at least get one more scene with Rei II, where they say farewell to each other or something similar. After all, it's their relationship that has been one of the main driving forces of the entire Rebuild saga (heck, it's arguably replaced his relationship with Asuka).

And again, while Asuka may indeed be the Deuteroganist in the next film, I hope that doesn't mean she automatically becomes the love interest. That would require some seriously convincing writing, since she and Shinji haven't had the same sort of connection they had in the original series.

I don't think you'll have to worry about that.

Worry about what exactly?

Rebuild Shinji has shown zero interest in Asuka whatsoever. They very first thing he did upon seeing her in Q, the first time he's seen her since the Bardiel incident, which was like two weeks ago to him, which experienced in the first person and left NERV over, is ask her where Rei is. He doesn't even bother to ask about her eye.

edited 13th Oct '15 2:22:45 PM by TheAirman

Hence why Asuka treated him like nothing changed :P

As far as I remember, Shinji first asked her about her eye after she punched the wall of glass, she then says it's nothing of his bussiness. Only then does he asks her about Rei.

As a side note, he volunteered to pilot the Eva once he knows Asuka is alive and did saved her at the start of 3.33 (albeit unconsciously).

Edit: A pair of mistakes and more clarification.

edited 13th Oct '15 6:38:42 PM by raziel365

Did he? Either way, that's still a very minor reaction to seeing somebody for the first time after experiencing what happened.

Fuck it needs to be February so we can settle 3.0's ambiguities once and for all.

edited 13th Oct '15 6:59:59 PM by TheAirman

Hopefully, the new Khara-approved redub will answer that.

And I still don't see how Sx A can become a thing, especially since, again, those two have absolutely zero chemistry in this saga (compared to the original series, where it was built up and shown many times).

Well, we got a pair of months at the least to find out.

Technically, three months.

And I know I keep dwelling on this topic (maybe due to my shipping preferences XD) but I still fail to see how that pairing would work so late in the game without it coming off as a case of Strangled by the Red String. All of his actions towards her don't feel really unique compared to his interactions with Rei and even Kaworu. It more or less seems like he does care for her, but not in the sort of way it was in the original series.

Like, in the original series, while I didn't care for it, I could see that those two had something going on that was more than a mere "friendship". It was one of the driving forces of the whole show and EOE, hence why it felt at least believable that they would get together at the end. Here, that doesn't really occur. They share a few scenes together, but not nothing to the same degree as before.

Really, it almost feels like Rei has taken over Asuka's place in terms of the whole "female relationship to Shinji" thing. Those two, like Shinji and Asuka in the original series, are one of the main driving forces of the entire saga. We see their starting points in 1.11, 2.22 gives more insight and depth to it, and 3.33 is heavily affected by Rei's absence.

Unless some huge plot point happens, Asuka seems more like a close friend than love interest in the Rebuild saga. It would also take some really good writing, since she and Shinji would have to go through all the motions in the last film, which already has enough on its plate as it is. Heck, that's one of my problems with Kaworu's role in 3.33, and I give that aspect a bit of a slide simply for it not being thrown at us in the last film.

Just my thoughts as a shipper.

edited 14th Oct '15 1:59:29 AM by LDragon2

I think we've heard it many times, so it starts to come off as really annoying after a while....

I think L Dragon admitted once in the MCU thread that he has OCD.

Although, that just makes me wonder why he didn't go talk to a psychiatrist or something about it.

Don't worry L Dragon, as a SxA shipper, I have to be grateful we can keep the talk civil.

Maybe I have read too much fanfic, but if there is a chance for it to happen, it would have to be in a situation in which Shinji is faced with either the choice of rejecting reality or confront it, something that may happen at the first arc of the movie so there is a believable progression. Since they are in a desert/wasteland, a sandstorm may provide the scenario for that to happen.

Hey, even as Sx R shipper, I don't go around fanatically bashing other ships.

While that does sound plausible, I doubt that Shinji will go through such a development in the first third of the film. Heck, I wonder how much time will even be spent with them wandering in the wasteland (which gives me Fallout flashbacks XD). Plus, Rei Q is with them, and I bet she'll have several scenes with the other two as well.

Basically, there's so much more that the next film has going on and needs to address that shoehorning in a romance that barely got any focus in the previous films doesn't seem like a good call. If it is to have a pairing, I'd rather it be one that had clear development over the past three movies.

Did I mention how any of Gendo's "redeeming qualities" are basically undone in the third film because apparently it was all an act, like all of it?

edited 14th Oct '15 12:32:12 PM by YoKab

They may have weeks or even a month for development as they walk through the ruins. Indeed Rei Q might provide a parallel with Rei III in her interactions with Asuka and Shinji and even make some dialogue similar to EoE, hence I mentioned the sandstorm in which the three get caught and Asuka and Rei Q take different directions, leaving Shinji with the choice of either follow Rei Q and (possibly) return to Nerv, or go with Asuka and stand with what remains of the world, if he chooses the latter then you might expect an eventual rant between the two that can serve as base for them to open up.

Yes, and to add insult to injury even Yui is now more villanous than the original series. Truly Serial Escalation on many of the things left aside in the original.

So being with Rei equates to rejecting reality? Not exactly something I agree with. Plus, I feel that there needs to be some sort of closure to Shinji and Rei's relationship, since it was built up so throughly throughout the saga, and to drop it because of that is rather insulting, no offense.

Not to mention that I'm not sure that what they have in their backpacks will last them for weeks or months on end. Pretty sure they'd want to get picked up by WILLE as soon as possible.

And I agree, Gendo became one heck of a monster in 3.33. Seriously, how is he gonna get his Alas, Poor Villain moment in the next film?

Maybe he won't?