Code Geass

Thanks. Going to need this intel for a Strike Witches fanfic with mecha I'm planning to write, in which it is summarized as Strike Witches meets Voltes V meets Blue Comet SPT Layzner meets Metal Armor Dragonar.

Anyways, back to more something on-topic. How exactly is siding with a dead concubine of the reigning emperor earn you scorn, like what happened to the Ashfords?

edited 11th Jun '14 9:05:06 AM by HallowHawk

She was a Commoner who ostensibly wanted Liberal reform.

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Another question, when Lelouch assumed power within the final episodes of R2, why didn't he allow nobles who didn't oppose him to keep their statuses?

edited 11th Jun '14 9:15:22 AM by HallowHawk

Because CHANGE! It's important to remember that Lelouch really wanted to leave his mark on history. Actions like abolishing the system which underpins the entire Britannian power structure helps to further his goals by both destroying the imbalanced system which he loathed and establishing him as a markedly different kind of ruler than the ones before him, something which helps to quickly and effectively cement his place in history, something vital to the greater plan of Zero Requiem.

Plus, it was important that he piss off EVERYONE, not just one or two social classes. If the peasants hated him but the nobles were content with their position under his rule, then the new Zero would have a lot of problems down the line. The reverse would have been even worse. Geassing literally everyone is impractical and defeats the purpose anyway. Ripping down the old system in every single way lets the world start over once they've removed the absolute dictator at the top. I also assume that the slave soldiers who enforced his laws were geassed to go back to their normal lives and forget everything once he died; that would be why they wore the face-concealing helmets, so that no one would be able to take vengeance on them once they're normal people again.

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Onto another subject. Aside from numerous Gundam and shows directed by Ryosuke Takahashi (i.e., Fang Of The Sun Dougram, Armored Trooper VOTOMS, etc.), anyone notices some Heavy Metal L Gaim vibes. Here's a list:

Lelouch = Daba

Fake surnames, both pretty charismatic for their age, and relating to the fake surnames, nobility. Only difference is that, unlike Lelouch, Daba's no Squishy Wizard and Large Ham.

Suzaku = Gablae

Both are rivals to the protagonist, want to get high up in the social ladder militarily, difference being that Gabale's is petty, contrasting from Suzaku, and both have a crush on the protagonist's half-sister (i.e, Suzaku with Euphemia, Gablae with Olibee).

C.C = Amu

Both long-haired and are the first girls (in C.C.'s case, in that purple kimono watching Lelouch and Suzaku in the flashback opening) seen in their respective shows. Only difference is that C.C. doesn't have a crush on Lelouch.

Kallen = Leccee

Both are redheads and and pilot red-colored mecha. Unlike Amu and Leccee over Daba, C.C. and Kallen do not argue over Lelouch.

Knights of the Round = Elite 13

Both are the toughest units the antagonists of their respective series have to offer.

edited 30th Jun '14 7:47:51 AM by HallowHawk

Or maybe Lelouch just wanted to make everyone feel his own self-hatred, lol.

edited 14th Jun '14 10:19:33 PM by azul120

How did Rakshata get allowed into Colchester Institute (I think that was the name of the place) in order to study engineering and other stuff alongside Lloyd?

Britannia is racist towards everyone who isn't Britannian (and even then, there is only an extremely limited number of fucks to give about the commoners) and Rakshata is from (the Militarised Zone of) India, which at the time was presumably part of the Chinese Federation.

It's never been made clear as to how she got into the place. My guess she or India bribed a few people at the place for her to attend, or she got sponsership form some nobles who liked her work.

It's something that can only be guessed at. Like a lot of thing's in Code Geass that wasn't answered in the series.

You know, having beaten the game, I feel that this show would really be awesome if it was done in a similar manner to Wolfenstein The New Order.

Like, have Britannia act sort of like the Nazi's in that game (heck, they are already pretty similar in terms of how they took over the world). It would also make the show much more serious.

Okay, I'm pretty pumped up to start on Geass rewrite fanfic, so I want two things.

One is just curious how many of you would actually want to read it. The second is what I should do with Nunnally. My gut feeling, honestly, is to cut her and focus on the other aspects of his motivation, but I'm afraid a lot of fans would crucify me for that. But I'm hard pressed to find that makes her character and her relationship to Lulu not 'cheap'.

You should do what you feel is the best for your fic, it is your decision if you want to cut Nunnally out of the story. It can be be made clear of how it happened and how it went down. You just need to consider how her death affect's the character's that know her, how they feel towards it, and how it affects them.

I would recommend reading this fic https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7881659/1/Weapons-of-Mass-Destruction from the author of Dauntless. to get an idea of how excising nunnally from your story could go down.

Also, sometimes your going to get some fans who won't like your writing decisions, they made throw harsh words at you, flame you. But you need to be the one who decides what is best for your fic.

It's all part of telling the story you want to tell.

But I'm hard pressed to find that makes her character and her relationship to Lulu not 'cheap'.

You could try playing up the hints we get, particularly in R2, that she's way smarter than she looks. Even if she's not a major player, having an extra chessmaster on the field who just so happens to be Lelouch's emotional kryptonite could shake things up in some very interesting ways.

I'm already doing that by making the EU and Chinese Federation bigger players even in R1 era.

I'm conflicted over whether I should have her die with Marianne or just not have her exist period. My issue with Nunnally is by the end it kinda overshadows his relationship with everyone else; if we know he'd throw everything and everyone else under the bus for her sake, it's hard to care when he betrays them.

Once I figure out Nunnally, I'll start laying out an Outline and maybe post a Character Sheet here. One change I'm toying with is making Shirley an Army Brat, like part of Ashford Academy's ROTC equivalent.

edited 26th Jul '14 1:31:22 PM by Scherzo09

If anyone has thoughts or suggestions, feel free to contribute.

Not really sure what else to suggest, since this show has kind of dropped off my radar and the like.

Course, I wouldn't mind making an AU fic for this series that, like I said earlier, takes several nods from Wolfenstein: The New Order.

edited 26th Jul '14 6:05:39 PM by LDragon2

I remember I once tried to write a rewrite fic with a soldier from the EU being used as a liaison (while at the same time stealing a bunch of conceptual stuff about the Lancelot in order for the EU to make its own equivalent Knightmare that I forget the name of) until he joins Lelouch after he becomes Emperor.

I eventually just got rid of it though because it would require rewatching the entire anime to get dialogue right XD

So going off my Code Geass / Wolfenstein idea, I think that I would show more of the devastation that Britannia's conquest has wrought upon not just Japan, but also the rest of the world. While they won't be as bad as the Nazi's they will still be pretty ruthless in terms of how they treat their conquered regions; exploiting them for resources, turning them into puppet states, forcing their ideology on them, etc. Make it so that the Resistance is much smaller than seen in the series, and like in The New Order, they must rely more on guerilla attacks and strategies rather than mechas. Heck, make it so that the Resistance has no mechas at all.

As for Lelouch, I would give him a bit of a B.J. Blazkowicz-esque role. While he obviously wouldn't be as physically strong as the hero from Wolfenstein, he would be at least more adept at combat than he was in the actual series. Have his reasons for wanting to bring down Britannia the same, but the circumstances be different. While he does get the Geass power, it is when he is on the verge of dying after the attack which killed his mother and blinded his sister. He barely makes it out alive, and is given the power to save him. However, the process of giving one this power is more complicated this time around, and it leaves him comatose for several years, like in The New Order. When he wakes up, he not only finds that he has this power, but that Britannia has since taken over the remainder of the world, and his sister is still a pawn. It is here that he decides to join the Resistance and have his revenge on the nation he was raised in. Heck, he could even say the line that Blazkowicz uttered in the announcement trailer:

"While I was gone, they set the world on fire. It wasn't a war anymore: it was a remaking. Some losses are inevitable. Some... unthinkable. Now they've built a new world. Armies of steel and thunder. They're rewriting history. But they forgot about me."

Yeah, I'm gonna need some feedback.

edited 26th Jul '14 8:50:52 PM by LDragon2

And the Geass Order would Daat Yichud?

Anyways, egh, dunno what to do about Nunnally. I'm heavily leaning towards her not being involved that much; but idk whether to have her be dead, to have Lelouch just think she's dead, or get rid of her entirely?

That sounds about right.

As for Nunnally, going back to the Wolfenstein inspired plot, I'd have her be made as a puppet for Britannia's empire or something like that. Like, while I wouldn't have her brain trapped inside a robot like Fergus / Wyatt, her status as the Princess would be used by the higher ups to take advantage of her somehow.

My issue with Nunnally is by the end it kinda overshadows his relationship with everyone else; if we know he'd throw everything and everyone else under the bus for her sake, it's hard to care when he betrays them.

I'm not sure that killing her would really alter that. A more successful approach might be finding a way for their relationship to start seriously breaking down (if she discovers his activities as Zero in a particularly inopportune manner, for instance), which would naturally create more tension about which way he'll jump when shit hits the fan.

I guess the only thing that makes me consider keeping Nunnally is having a seen like this during whatever thing I have instead of Zero Requiem.

I guess I just feel I dunno how to handle his relationship to Nunnally in a way that isn't cloying or just makes his relationship with other people irrelevant. I mean making Nunnally a more active personality would go some way towards that.

I'll try to get a rough character sheet up by the end of today, probably will have two dozen or so principle characters.

Would they eventually steal a bunch of Super Prototype Knightmare Frames, like how they steal those helicopters in the actual game?

Was reading Dauntless and got me thinking; how should I square Jeremiah's devotion to the supposedly Liberal Marianne with his racist, cultural exclusionist beliefs? The fic I was reading posited that his leadership of the Purist was merely a political move, but I don't think that's that satisfying seeing how, of all the principal characters, his racism seems to be the most engrained.