YMMV / ThunderCats (1985)
aka: Thundercats

  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Is Lion-O truly the Master of the Sword of Omens, or is he a slave to it? There has been quite a bit of debate about this over the years among fans, not helped by the fact that the Sword displays some degree of sentience.
    • Mumm-Ra's first real revelation to the Thundercats; moments before he drops his disguise, rather than rant on how much he relishes evil, he angrily protests that he has not wronged them, they are the ones who have intruded into his life... with nothing to gain from this statement that contradicts his previous words to the mutants about welcoming the opportunity to seize the Eye of Thundera, it makes one wonder did Mumm-Ra really desire more power or was he content with his life before the opposing aliens landed on his world?
  • Anvilicious: Like a lot of 80s cartoon series, a lot of this show's episodes were focused on some specific "moral", and weren't very subtle about it.
  • Ass Pull: Some characters (including Lion-O) somehow get massive powers on convenient moments, like Cheetara's psychic Limit Break.
  • Bizarro Episode: Most of the William Overgard episodes tend to be this. One episode had Lion-O go to another planet without the Sword of Omens, defeat the Lunatacks with common household products, and then he was able to summon the sword from all across the galaxy to the planet he was on and flew back to Third Earth with it.
    • The biggest offender was chapter 85, Sideswipe. It's a nonstop parade of WTF elements and moments and some of the cast almost acting Out of Character. Here it starts with Snarf and Lynx-O mentioning that Snarfer went out to buy Mexican Food, then a shot inside Snarfer's ship just proved it to be true (it even had the pic of a Mexican sombrero on the bag). Then Chilla apears flying a space vehicle to attack Snarfer, but then Mandora comes to... wait, not to the rescue? No, she's here to ask for Chilla to show her dirver's license, because she was violating space flight regulations (!?). Chilla actually takes out a wallet (really) and starts looking inside it, but then she takes out a spray tube of... her own chilling powers... which she uses to freeze Mandora's throat. So, Chilla escapes and Mandora falls to the Third Planet's surface. Snarfer goes out to see how is she and gets the idea of how to help her with her throat. A scene later, she's talking again and fine but asking Snarfer what was that weird and hot medicine he just gave her. Yes, it was the hot sauce that came with the Mexican food. Mandora decides that she has to go after Chilla, for violating the law and attacking a space cop. She gets Lynx-O's help, to get into the Lunatacs' hideout, but they got traped and locked. The Lunatacs want Lynx-O's special power of his Braille Keyboard, but he makes it disappear, so they connect him to a mind reading machine to unlock those secrets. Meanwhile, Mandora escaped from her jail and decides to go after... no, not the whole gang of Lunatacs, but still after Chilla! And saving Lynx-O, by the way. So the machine is working and it starts displaying on the screen a female figure, which turned ou to be Mandora, who breaks through it and starts her attack on the bad guys, still looking for Chilla, totally ignoring the full gang of supernatural powered aliens that made her their prisoner. Luna surrenders and tells her that she's hidden inside a capsule, which turned out to be some kind of scape pod / rocket launcher cannon, which launches the pod with Lynx-O and Chilla still inside. They managed to get out and go back to the Lunatacs' base. So Mandora's finally in front of Chilla and orders her to surrender. Chilla starts to attack with her freezing powers, until they get depleted, so she finally surrenders to Mandora, who proceeds to arrest her and orders her to have a drink... of anti-freezing liquid.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Panthro is regarded by many fans as their favorite.
    • Tygra also garnered some decent popularity, especially with girls watching the show. He was the Thundercat besides Lion-O to get a new figure in Bandai's line of classic ThunderCats. Many of his fans were upset by the changes made to his personality in the 2011 reboot.
    • Pumyra was under-utilized because the producers often didn't know just what to do with her, but many fans claim her as their favorite character. The anticipation surrounding her appearance in the 2011 reboot is insane.
    • Grune was one of the more popular villains despite a handful of appearances.
    • Alluro was pretty well-liked even by fans who hated the season 2 cast additions.
      • Ditto Lynx-O.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Chilla
    • Also, Ta-She. Even Lion-O thinks so.
  • Ham and Cheese: Mumm-Ra, so very much so.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Early in the second season of the original '80s show, Lynx-O tells Lion-O that his voice sounds just like his father's. In the 2011 remake, Larry Kenny, Lion-O's original VA, is the VA for Lion-O's father, Claudus.
    • Depending on who you ask, it is either an example of this trope, or its exact opposite. The show's project development was credited to a "Leisure Concepts, Inc.", a licensing agency that is perhaps best known by a much later name: 4Kids Entertainment. However, because they were only a licensing agency at the timenote , they do not own the rights.note 
  • Informed Wrongness: In "All That Glitters" Jaga harshly and completely blames Lion-O for bringing down a curse on the Sword of Omens by attacking a fellow Thundercat. Never mind that it was a clever scheme by Mumm-Ra, it was clearly Tygra who impulsively ambushed Lion-O who reacted in self-defense; the area was dark and it could have been a matter of life and death, not leaving much room to discern his attacker's identity as Jaga was suggesting he should have done.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Ta-She; while she conspired with evil and maintained a cool and callous demeanour, the timewarp prison has taken a toll on her. Her last moments have her desperately screaming that she only wanted her freedom.
  • Magnificent Bastard: How Mumm-Ra managed to screw Monkian over in the episode "Monkian's Bargain."
    Mumm-Ra: "You rule Third Earth. But it is a kingdom you will never see! Because you can never leave my pyramid!"
  • Memetic Mutation: Mumm-Ra likes to watch.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Mumm-Ra, period.
    • As creepy as Mumm-Ra was, the Living Ooze was definitely the scariest thing on the show.
    • A nightmare-tastic episode has Lion-O was trapped in some creepy catacombs with these Morlock-esque creepers with gigantic eyes, speaking about how they had been driven out of the world by people being too terrified of what was written in their books.
    • Tygra becoming addicted to the Keystone, becoming both paranoid, insane and losing a lot of weight along the way. For an 80s cartoon to depict not just the mental damage but also the physical damage addiction, any addiction, could do to someone and do it so graphically is as impressive as it is creepy.
      • The wild and crazy dream sequence Tygra had when he got hooked on the Silky Fruit is also pretty damn creepy.
    • Whilst navigating through the cave of the Nether Witch, many strange, eerie figures were encountered; amongst them, an infernal hand kept appearing with a dissuading gesture, as if trying to warn Lion-O not to proceed further.
    • From the last episode, a giant turtle attack Bengali and Snarf, but first, it opens it's mouth...
  • One-Scene Wonder: From all the characters with limited time on screen in the whole series, this troper got impressed by Pyron. Just when Mumm-Ra was about to lose in an armless combat against Lion-O, he pleads to the Ancient Spirits of Evil for help. Then in the Pyramid, the cauldron's starting to bubble, while the ASOE start summoning for the help of their champion, Pyron. At that moment, this trope was like "what?! They have a Champion apart from Mumm-Ra?!" Then back inside the Book of Omens, Mumm-Ra just lost to Lion-O, but then, Pyron appears: a big tall muscular warrior, with satyr-like legs, wearing a golden armor with Shoulders of Doom that included lots of spikes, a helmet that totally covers his face, a blood-like red cape and swinging a long spear. Even if he was defeated quite fast and easily, it was pretty cool for a final chapter.
  • The Scrappy The entire Snarf race
    • Special mention should go to Snarfer, who was just downright annoying. Also the three new ThunderCats from season 2 weren't very well-received.
      • Judging by the new animated trailer, they may be attempting to rescue Snarf from the Scrappy heap. They were actually able to do this by changing the Snarf race into a species that doesn't talk.
    • The character probably most deserving of fans' hatred is Captain Bragg, who made the Mutants and Lunatacs look like a bunch of chumps (well, more so than usual) and put them on a train out of the series. He gets away with hypnotizing WilyKat and tricking him into helping him and doesn't get punished for it. Bragg doesn't even have any real coolness to him to make up for it, he's just an old circus ringleader with a talking crow.
    • Weirdly enough, Tygra of all characters was apparently this to the original series head writer Peter Lawrence, who considered Tygra "boring" (and because of it Lawrence reportedly shipped Cheetara with Lion-O rather than Tygra). Lawrence didn't think too highly of Pumyra either, which is why they both got Put on a Bus (or rather left behind) in the fourth and final season (with Tygra's final appearance forcing him to carry the Idiot Ball).
  • Seasonal Rot: The fourth season is generally not well thought of even though it featured some of the series best animation.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: In one episode, Monkian's comrades ask him where he's getting his info on the ThunderCats. He smugly explains that he's seeing one of the Warrior Maidens, and she's The Mole. This revelation is never brought up again.
    • Mumm-Ra sets up a plan to lure Lion-O to an area where his most formidable opponents will be waiting for him. Summoning Slythe, Safari Joe, Spidera, and (just to make sure) Ratar-O, it was explicitly stated that Lion-O was to face them combined as each gave him a hard time in the past so there was no way he could conquer them all at once. He only ends up fighting two of them, and separately no less.
    • "Telepathy Beam" has Cheetara receiving a startling vision of the Mutants making short work of the Berbil village with more brutality than seen before and then Skytomb itself arrives on the scene. So disturbed is Cheetara witnessing their plight that Lion-O vows to settle things once and for all. The whole thing turned out to be a false alarm which suited the episode's plot, but considering how exciting the scene was and the less than thrilling send-off the villains actually got in a later episode; it's a shame it wasn't real after all.
  • Unintentionally Sympathetic: The Mutants of Plun-Darr - Slythe, Monkian, Jackalman, Vulture-Man - even though they're evil they're just so Blessed with Suck that sometimes you just can't help feeling sorry for them. This is not the case with their 2011 counterparts, however.
    • Mumm-Ra, himself, in the later seasons. Despite his evil goals, he really works and plans tirelessly to achieve them and please his dire masters, while all the ThunderCats seem to do is just keep using The Sword of Omens over and over to inexplicably and conveniently undo all his efforts.
    • This was taken up to eleven in the last episode of the five-parter "Return to Thundera", when finally convinced he had succeeded despite all odds and heroic ass-pulls, he was suddenly faced with the Ancient Spirits of Evil's wrath for his failure, and could only say: "I... I don't understand!". At that moment, the show felt less like "good will always triumph over evil" and more like watching the desperate struggles of one determined being against an elitist group with a handheld Plot Device.


Alternative Title(s): Thundercats

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