These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
YMMV: Thirty Seconds To Mars
Anvilicious: The original video for "A Beautiful Lie" contained an intro and an outro intended to show the impact of global warming and encourage environmental action, as well as promote the A Beautiful Lie organization. The "A Beautiful Lie 2.0" version of the video contains two things: a lot more typography and a lot less subtlety.
"Capricorn (A Brand New Name)," their first single, is a killer, despite being overshadowed a bit by later successes.
Fan Dumb: VyRT has been getting the brunt of this recently.
The members of the Echelon complaining that Mars now "thinks of them more as dollar signs than family" due to the regular VyRTs being pay per view events. While other bands do have free livestreams for their fans, they're either corporate sponsored or done by the band themselves with varying degrees of quality. VyRTs are often either band concerts or full fledged events necessitating more elaborate production and therefore an actual price tag.note Streaming live is usually $9.99, downloads when available are $14.99. More recently bundles have been made available that combine ticket options (getting the offered "Golden" ticket getting you both the Soundcheck, the Performance, and a Download instead of getting a Performance ticket, the Soundcheck + Performance bundle, or the Download for example). There are actual legitimate complaints about VyRT pricing by those who live in foreign countries where the exchange rate makes it much pricier in the US, but Fan Dumb complaints obscure that.
Forced Meme: Some of the segments on VyRT live shows emphasized by the band can come across as this, but to the band's credit, they do tend to become memes in the context of the Echelon community regardless.
Friendly Fandoms: The Echelon are unusually receptive to opening acts that open for Mars. There's significant fandom overlap between the Echelon and fans of Street Drum Corps and Neon Trees. The overlap between Cobra Starship fans and the Echelon is probably less, but the good reception was enough for the band to thank the Echelon in the liner notes of their second album, íViva la Cobra!
For the most part, the Echelon and Angels & Airwaves fans, due to the bands sharing similar musicial themes, high aspirations and a bassist.
The Echelon also set out to be friendly with fans other musicians that use the VyRT service like the Jonas Brothers and Ryan Beatty, although it comes from a more pragmatic place: VyRT is a new service that was launched by Mars and the Echelon want it to succeed. Therefore, they go out of their way to help answer questions about VyRT for fans of other groups who use the service. That and the Echelon being unnecessarily rude and intimidating to Jonatics just because they don't like the act and/or their fans is just bad for business.
Memetic Mutation: SOON, a word used by Jared to mean anything from a few weeks to a few years to release something highly anticipated, often accompanied by Echelon groaning and eye rolling.
The first VyRT The Mars Laboratory opened with and often cut to a scene of a palm tree◊ when technical difficulties happened. As soon as the band opened suggestions of what to name it, Buddha (named after the Mars song Buddha for Mary), ended up getting .gifs, a Twitter account and even featured on official Vy RT merchandise.
The Kill and This is War have gotten this reception, mainly from people outside the fandom who are tired of both songs being constantly used in other fandom's [AMVs] and, for the latter song, the constant use in Tumblr gif/photosets.
Just Here For Jared Leto: Attempts were made early in the band's run to avoid this as much as possible. As the band gained more mainstream credibility for being a band that could stand on their own merits, they eased off on these efforts, which included not doing shows that used Jared's fame as a major selling point. Regardless of the time, there has and always will be people mainly there because of Jared's looks. The Echelon dislike it as much as anyone else (even those who do go on about Jared's looks on a regular basis).
Signature Song: The Kill. A good many emotionally charged live show singalongs derive from that single.
Also, Kings and Queens, which is played right at the end of each show with the band inviting a large amount of people from the crowd on stage.
They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Mars tends to put a new spin on their musical style with each album release, so this reaction among some fans is a given.