Headscratchers / Predators

  • If the "dogs" are supposed to be from the Predators' home planet, as their physiognomy implies, why don't they have glowstick-fluid for blood?
    • Because in the EU, Predators (Yautja) are implied to be designed, or at least tweaked, to fight Xenomorphs. Their blood has been specially altered to be a close strength as a base to what Xenomorphs have as an acid, so that if a Yautja gets splattered with Xenomorph blood it's not an automatic kill. The same wouldn't necessarily hold true of any other wildlife from their planet.
    • I disagree. It is never implied that the dogs are from their home planet.
    • Also, not everything on a planet has the same colored blood. Humans have red blood, but horseshoe crabs have blue blood. The coloring all depends on the composition of the blood's base materials.
  • Also, how did the Predators who collected the humans for their hunting ground know that Edwin was a serial killer?
    • Presumably they had been watching him and the others for a while.
      • But why watch him, specifically? The other prey were all actively involved in large-scale violent activities, either military or criminal, so could be identified as killers simply by their participation in violent enterprises. Edwin was a solitary killer, who doesn't seem to have been identified as such by the police or anyone else, and who'd successfully covered up his crimes. By all outward appearances, he's just a harmless civilian. So how did the Black Predators come to notice the guy in the first place?
    • The Predators go around the galaxy on space ships, which means they must have some kind of intellectual class or society. You can't judge the entire culture's intellectual capacity by a handful of specimens that you only see hunting. It would be like deciding humans aren't capable of researching other cultures because your only experience with them is redneck hunters. And I really don't see why it has to be that each team gets a plant. Why should they want every hunt to be made up of the same sorts of creatures? Probably Edwin and Stanz were there as a way of mixing things up.
    • I always figured that Edwin being a doctor might have been part of it - giving the team a Medic.
    • They can turn invisible and much of their society is based around stalking prey. It's not hard to see how they could have done extensive recon on potential targets.
    • But this last point assumes that Edwin either has a pile of bodies that he has hid, or that the Preds have a deeper grasp on human psychology than they let on. As proof, the Predators have to be "blooded" (i.e. proven proficient) hunters to be able to hunt the "soft meat." They know we are dangerous prey, so maybe they have made deeper study of us than the movies would suggest. After all, if the point is to hunt dangerous prey, why bother bringing in a human that carries around a "weapon" that would barely penetrate their skin?
      • It honestly doesn't make any sense unless he was a plant. Even as a serial killer the Predators are in this for the challenge more than the danger. There is a reason that in real life people hunt(ed) big cats, bears, wolves and even went whaling to some extent. Nobody ever hunted cobras or puffer fish. So regardless of his kill count he shouldn't have qualified. Though it's hard to know about the Blooded part since that comes from the Av P information and we have no way of knowing how much if any of that is cannon to Predators.
      • It was Edwin who chose not to tell the other guys he was a killer. I figured the predators wanted to go after different types of killers. If they're all the same, it's boring and predictable. It's easy to see that the 'team' has different methods of murder, ranging from head on warrior, to cunning berserker, and the type that slinks around and eventually stabs you in the back.
      • The fact that a toxic plant which Edwin knew how to use just happened to be growing in the jungle, close to where he was dropped, may not have been a coincidence. The Black Predators surely chose which Earth plants to seed their hunting preserve with, and they'd have wanted to make sure each and every one of the "prey" posed a challenge: they made sure Edwin would have a weapon, even if he had to come up with a means of delivering it to a Predator.
  • At what point would Noland have been able to "go home?" In the Av P series, a single series of battles against the "hard meat" allows the main character to be considered a blooded warrior. This guy has lasted 10 "seasons" and from the collection of gear, managed to off a few Predators. At what point would they have said "Hey, good job human, now go home?"
    • Probably never, because this isn't the AvP series.
      • Predators may not be Av P but it is explicitly part of the Predator franchise. At the end of Predator 2 I think it's obvious to everybody that Danny Glover was quite dead if the rules of the "game" didn't specifically require letting him live. Either the rules are different when they take you to Predator Planet or Noland was (quite understandably) paranoid and whoever they sent to offer him a ride home ended up quite dead. I can imagine how well "Come out human, I'm gonna take you home now!" would have played out.
      • Different kind of hunts, different rules.
    • Considering the Black Predators (Berserker at least) doesn't seem to be too considerate about honor, they probably just didn't care about it.
      • Definitely. These Predators clearly do not follow the same "rules" as normal Predators. The normal Predators hunt on their own, not in groups. They track their own prey, they do not use hunting dogs and aerial recon drones. They hunt in their prey's territory, rather than abducting them and bringing them to THEIR turf. It's doubtful that these new Predators would let the human go even if he had killed a dozen of them.
      • Given that Noland has lost it, its possible he does not want to go home.
    • Sure, he can't get home and he's pretty sure of it. But it's amazing what people will do for twenty more minutes of precious life. Just because he can't go home doesn't mean he's ready to just drop dead. He was picked for being a warrior and a survivor.
  • Rodriguez wanted people to forget about Av P, but Word of God said Mr. Black was the youngest ever Predator to kill a Xenomorph, and he has a freaking Xeno jaw grafted on his mask. Where is the logic?
    • He probably meant he wanted them to forget the movie AvP, not the whole concept of the franchise.
    • That's unfortunate. I unexpectedly enjoyed the first film.
  • How exactly do Predators kidnap their future prey and without the prey knowing what happens? Especially Stans who was in freaking prison? From the way the guys describe it, sounds like the Predators have access to teleportation.
    • Probably they turn invisible to sneak in, and give them some kind of sedative.
      • Makes sense... but to get to Stans they'd have to bypass many closed doors in a heavily guarded place specifically designed to keep people in. Even with invisibility, the prison must have had some very reckless guards who didn't notice the doors in the death row suddenly opening for no reason. Maybe the Predators just slaughtered everything in their way... but Stans would likely be waked up by it.
    • Maybe the guys were memory erased.
    • Given that the end of the movie reveals that Edwin was some kind of plant, Predator 2 tells us that Predators have at least some understanding of English and while AVP is of questionable cannon to Predators that series suggests the Predators were worshiped as gods. Putting all that together it doesn't sound impossible that the Predators may still have agents/worshipers on Earth. They might be exceedingly rare but real life still has people who worship the Olympians so why can't there be some cult that waits for some Predator specific phenomenon go out report to their Gods/Bosses and deliver up people they want?
    • Or maybe they simply cut a deal with corrupt prison staff to take Stans. If the warden were to receive an anonymous e-mail, promising several million dollars worth of diamonds or whatever in exchange for a prisoner who's about to be executed anyway, then Stans's lethal-injection cocktail could have been swapped out for a sedative and his unconscious body, handed over on the sly. They could imply that the payoff is from a rich relative of one of Stans's victims, who wants to personally shoot the son of a bitch, if the warden's hesitant about letting a psycho like that live.
      • More specifically, in Predator 2 it is shown that the government both knows roughly what the Predators are and are hot to get Predator tech. If anything, these Predators may be willing to trade some gear for fresh hunters.
  • Why did Noland get blown to bits instead of having his skull taken? It's clearly shown the Black Predators DO take trophies from their kills and Nolands lasted a LONG TIME and even been implied to have killed a few Predators in his time, so shouldn't he have been worth taking the skull from instead of incinerating?
    • Different prey behaviours result in different consequences. Be disappointing and they skin you and leave you hanging around. Actually beat your predator and it seems you get to take a trophy and leave for the time being. Make for a worthy hunt and you get to become a trophy. Make a worthy kill off a Xenomorph, get marked as a true warrior. Actually mess with their technology and the game is off and you get blown to bits.
    • Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?
  • In Predators, how is that nobody noticed the huge gas giant and all the moons up in the sky until the big reveal? Sure, I could buy that the jungle was dense enough and the team was busy freaking out and trying to figure out what was going on, but the DO reach a clearing before that scene.
    • I always just assumed that it was overcast, and they couldn't see them. But, hey, it added to the mystery when first seeing the movie.
      • My assumption is that as the sky is a cgi effect they had no idea what they would be seeing until post production. The scenes in the clearing had been shot and dusted and they were then committed to keeping them.
      • However making it look good will make the audience forget how idiotic such a noticable sky is.
    • Maybe they were just too traumatized and freaked out to take a good look up and really think about what they were seeing. Be honest, how often do you look up at the sky and really pay attention to it as opposed to just letting your brain fill in "It's there"? Especially if you're stressed, distracted, or in pain?
  • Uh, yeah, new Predators movie? Pretty sure planets that big can't be that close to one another, especially if one of them is a gas giant.
    • Maybe all of them EXCEPT the gas giant are moons- including the "planet" the movie is set on? Think Jupiter or Saturn.
      • Pretty sure this is the idea — they're on a moon, not a planet. It's just natural for them to say "planet" because it's so Earthlike.
  • Also, how did that doctor know about the paralyzing properties of an alien plant? He knew way too much about its effects and how quickly they worked for him to take an estimated guess.
    • I assumed it was an earth based plant that grew there as well and he recognized it.
    • He used the scientific name in describing it. I assume the Predators seeded the jungle with plants native to the planets of their prey- maybe to make them more "comfortable"?
    • Presumably the hunting ground planet is intentionally populated with dangerous plants as well as animals to spice things up.
    • IIRC, the script says that the plant in question is an actual plant on earth. Well, was. It's extinct now, and has been since... the dinosaurs, I believe. Of course, this only begs the question on how the doctor knows so much about an extinct plant.
      • Why wouldn't he? As you note, it was a real plant, and for someone who paralyzes people with toxins in order to kill them, researching plant life that could do just that seems like a useful hobby.
      • Even with research, the most he could know would be whether or not its modern relatives (if any) are toxic. Organic compounds like poisons don't fossilize, so even the best botanical paleontologist in the world couldn't say for sure if it's toxic or not, or how severely so.
    • Maybe the doctor had actually been in the hunting ground a lot longer than he claimed, and has had time to test the poison on previous groups of "prey"? He could've faked being a new arrival to get the others off-guard.
  • Why did the head Predator blow Noland up? He sure as hell deserved to be collected as a worthy trophy.
    • The head Pred may have never actually seen or hunted Noland before, since Noland has apparently gotten good at going undetected. The Predators in the film may not be the ones who brought him to the planet, but I haven't read the prequel comics so someone needs to verify that.
    • He had gotten hold of a lot of Predator tech, which is a no-no in Predator society. Also, he's killed at least two Predators- maybe he was considered the equivalent of a rogue elephant or man-eater on Earth- too dangerous to take chances with.
    • Also recall that most of the Predators in that movie aren't the kind in the first two movies (or in AvP). They're some sort of new breed or subspecies. They may be hunting more for the sadistic thrill than trophies, since they also don't seem to adhere to the same honor code that the previous Predators do.
  • Why did the Predators kidnap Eric from That '70s Show? I mean, yeah, he's a psycho killer and all, but he's still not good at one on one combat, and is virtually defenseless against them. No matter what kind of person he is, he still isn't a survivalist or a real hunter or even any kind of challenge for a Predator to defeat. Also, he's virtually unarmed except for some tiny scalpels. Aren't Predators supposed to ignore unarmed targets? It just doesn't seem sporting to me.
    • The only explanation I can think of is that these Super Preds are a lot more sadistic and less honorable than the classic ones, and probably threw him into the group for shits n' giggles. What makes these new Predators different from the old ones is that they really like to test and toy with their prey. They probably weren't intending to hunt Edwin in the first place.
    • Or maybe they rate prey as dangerous the same way they rate their own status- by number of kills? He might be very, very good at what he does.
      • This seems likely to me. It would explain the presence of the drug cartel enforcer. That guy is not a warrior in any sense of the word. His immediate response to any threat is to wave his twin submachine guns in the vague direction of the threat and spray away like a madman, with no regard for accuracy or for the fact that he has no way to get more ammo for his guns. So why was he snatched by the Predators? Obviously, because he's taken out a ton of people during his work for the drug cartels.
    • Note that the Predators almost never actually attack Edwin. One of them advances on him menacingly, but doesn't fire on him or even raise his blade until Nikolai jumps out to save him. At the end, the lead Predator seems to stab him out of mercy or boredom because Edwin is clearly bleeding out and helpless. They probably expected him to pick up or improvise a weapon at some point, but he never did.
    • Or it could be that as a doctor he was sent along so that the prey could be patched up and put up a fight longer.
    • I just assumed that the Predators, being a very warlike and having a hunting-based culture, are pretty alien to the concept of serial killers. Thus when they saw Edwin they thought "He's racked up a really high body count, he's probably really good at killing/hunting.", instead of how we would intemperate him as a cold blooded murderer who slaughters innocent, possibly defenseless victims without reason.
      • Maybe it was the opposite, and they chose him BECAUSE he was a serial killer. Maybe This Troper is a little idealistic, but he likes the idea that the Predators would find his habit of targeting the weak and defenseless offensive, so they brought him up to put him down like a rabid dog.
      • That seems unlikely. If all they wanted was to put him down they could have grabbed him from Earth and cut his throat while he was unconscious. On the other hand, the "high body count = good hunter" explanation doesn't seem to work either. The Predators clearly have an understanding of the concepts of honor and fair play. That's why they ignore unarmed/harmless prey in favor of dangerous prey. Logically, the Predators should be offended by the concept of a killer who exclusively targets prey that can't defend itself.
      • Maybe the Predators also have a concept of irony, and thought it appropriate to put him in a situation where he couldn't really defend himself.
      • It's worth remembering that these Predators are not the same clans as we see in the other movies. Their methods of hunting and their motives for doing so are likely very different from the ones we've seen before.
    • In the previous films, the predators only hunt prey that can defend itself. They only attack armed humans. It doesn't seem like the serial killer's method of killing defenseless women would have been all that impressive to the predators. They shouldn't be interested in the number of kills, but in the challenge of the kills. By the same token, killing him for sport wouldn't be that impressive either. The predators aren't interested in bringing their brand of justice to the humans, they just want to hunt the strong ones.
      • Given that Edwin is a serial killer, it's possible he took trophies from his victims, which would definitely have interested the predators regardless of how he actually killed them.
    • The one that bugs me is Stans, who had to have been behind bars for a fairly lengthy period of time (assuming he appealed the sentence, it might've been years). Unless the Predators read human newspapers, how the Hell would they know about him?
      • How would they know about Edwin? They observe and stalk presumably for a long time before picking prey. If you're looking for predators, San Quentin is a good place to start and they probably watched how he interacted with the guards and inmates.
    • Its possible that they chose Edwin and Stans to be vipers-in-the-nest to make the hunt more interesting. Unlike everyone else chosen who are professional killers, Edwin and Stans are the two most unpredictable (comparatively speaking) in choosing when and if they are going to kill someone. Its reasonable to assume the Predators took into account that Humans tend to band together against threats and are stronger for it, which is why they often try to seperate them. Having a serial killer and an unstable convict in the group would lead to a greater chance that the others would make mistakes and be too busy watching their own backs instead of watching out for the Predators.
    • The Predator honour code seems a little flexible. They will only hunt people who are armed, true, but that needn't be more than a knife. Their own weaponry is far superior to anything individual humans are likely to have, including an invisibility cloak. The one in the first film was able to take out a whole squad of Green Berets and most of Arnie's team with little difficulty. The one in the second slaughters entire drug gangs with ease. They're obviously not above heavily stacking the deck in their own favour, including deliberately introducing a fly-in-the-ointment who will be more of a threat to his fellow humans than he ever would to a Predator.
    • Most likely of all, this film's breed of Predator may simply be going for quantity of trophies over quality, themselves. We see evidence of several dozen "prey" being dumped into the hunting ground in a fairly short period of time, and they're drawn from a whole range of locations, cultures, and possibly eras with no regard for whether they'll work well as a team, or kill each other before the hunters can get to them. These Predators may simply be opportunists, abducting candidates for their hunts en masse and fairly indiscriminately, just so they'll have loads and loads of targets. They're like canned "hunters" who just want to boast that they've shot a grizzly bear, and couldn't care less that it was drugged, arthritic, and stolen from a zoo before being dumped in front of their hunting blind.
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