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Headscratchers: Grimm
  • In "Happily Ever Aftermath," why would Lucinda have killed her stepmother? She had no way of knowing about either the Ponzi scheme or that she refused to help her husband. Also, why is no one suspicious of the stepsisters? Considering that they are their mother's only heirs, they would have the most to gain from her death.
    • There are various ways for Lucinda to have found out about that without us seeing it. And people did suspect the stepsisters, primarily Lucinda's husband.
    • She had good hearing and was snooping around the corner before she appeared on screen when Arthur and Spencer were talking?
    • She is a bat after all. Echolocation isn't just about loud sounds, its also about good hearing.
    • News of the Ponzi scheme and the suicide of its mastermind was all over the news. If she knew even a little about her husband's finances, she could figure out that they were financially ruined.
    • But her godfather made sure she would not know. At least, he thought he had made sure.
  • Why hasn't Nick seen Renard's Wesen form yet? He seems to have no trouble identifying the others.
    • So far it seems like Nick can only see Wesen if they let the mask slip. Most Wesen are like Monroe before he met Nick, and think that Grimms are nothing but a legend, so aren't nearly as careful as they could be. Renard on the other hand seems very much aware of how real Grimms are, and that Nick is one, so it might be that he's just being more careful about it.
    • It could be that Royalty are some sort of superpowered human (analogous to the way Blutbad are superpowered wolves). It could be something like, say, Carrot in the Discworld series whose royal blood makes people want to obey and please him even when they don't know he's royalty.
    • Fey/Faerie?
    • Sasha Roiz has confirmed that Renard is not a Wesen.
      • So if he isn't a Wesen, what does he have against Grimms that he's involved with the Reapers?
      • He's part of the Royal Families that have some connection to Grimms, the Verrat and Reapers. How it all fits together, we don't know yet. Also, he doesn't seem to have something against Grimms in general.
      • In a Season 2 interview Sasha Roiz confirmed that Renard is actually a half-Hexenbiest hybrid. This might be a retcon or the actor simply did not previously know all the details himself. Renard lets his Game Face show for a brief moment in one episode but he seems to have an extremely high level of control at all other times.
      • He said in another interview that this wasn't known to him while they were making Season 1.
  • In �Island Of Dreams� Monroe tells Rosalee that he knew her brother, but the first time we see said brother back in �Organ Grinder� it seemed like they didn�t know each other (though Monroe was a least aware of the shop before hand).
    • Monroe was hitting on her. "I knew your brother" was basically a pickup line. Or at least a way to get her to trust him enough to let him hang around.
    • Monroe knew the shop and the protocol. He's probably bought some of the herbal products before, but was not a regular.
  • Why do all Wesen go by their German species/racial names? Presumably they don't all originate from Germany or historic Germanic territories. Did the original Grimms coin them and if so why would the Wesen choose to use names given to them by such an adversarial group. If the Grimms didn't come up with the names is German a sort of universally language among the Wesen (none of them seem to use it)?
    • They don't all go by German names. "Mellifers" is Greek; the bat creatures can be called Spanish "Murcilago" or German "Gelterblitz".
    • Justified in that the two main characters are both of German decent. Monroe would only know about Wesen via German and Nick is both of German descent himself and tends to pick up most of his Wesen habits from Monroe (no doubt due to making it easier as well to talk with Monroe about things with a common language). However, both the Grimm book and Monroe make mention of other Wesen names in other languages - we've seen Spanish, Greek, Latin, Japanese, and a few others mentioned.
  • How does Nick get Wifi to do face time out in the woods? Does the cabin have a signal that extends that far?
    • Just pretend that the series started in the latter half of 2012, so Nick had iOS 6 and could face time over cell networks.
  • So what kind of cop is he, anyway? He seems to investigate every type of crime.
    • He's the TV kind.
    • Not every city has enough murders for a dedicated Homicide division. Portland only averages 24 a year. If they have a portfolio at all, it's probably something along the lines of "major crimes" which would cover homicide, robbery and the like.
    • Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far the only cases Hank and Nick have been shown to work on have been homicides and kidnappings.
    • Given, at best, a TV season per year of 24 episodes each with one murder case per episode... that actually lines up perfectly with Portland's average.
      • Not all murders are well executed mysteries. On television everybody is pretty good at hiding the evidence and they are rarely crimes of passion that end almost immediately with an arrest.
  • One of the Royal Families is based on a Japanese line that got founded in the early 1900's...except all seven houses fought for the 4th Crusade...which took place in 1200. Either Japan was into sharing way before they had to, or they some how took place in Christian wars for the hell of it.
    • This one had me confused too. The only other thing I can think of is maybe one of the royal families decided to migrate to Japan after they opened themselves back up.
      • Alternatively, a handful of people a Japanese family joined in.
    • Perhaps an ancient family died out and the Japanese family replaced them. Maybe there's always ever been seven families but old families die off (or get killed off) and new ones replace them.
    • The Japanese House seems to be independent of the Seven Royal Houses, which appear to be based in Europe. They are in charge of "The Dragon's Tongue", which seems to be a either the Japanese Royal House itself or their version of the Verrat.
  • In "Leave It To Beavers," how do Nick and Monroe know where to send the heads? Did they get the address off the bodies?
    • Nick talks to the mob guy in the scene just before. The implication is that he sent them through him.
  • What do Grimms look like to the Wesen? Each Wesen has their game face and everyone that gets freaked out about Nick don't usually notice he's a Grimm at first, so what gives it away?
    • He tends to give them this look that make them realize he's seen their game face.
    • The look thing seems to be sorta confirmed by Hank, who is "starting to recognize his looks"
    • It's an instinctual recognition thing that happens when wesen woge. As Monroe, Rosalee and Bud explained to Juliette, they just know that Nick is a Grimm just as they know that Juliette isn't.
      • Its further explained later that when Wesen are looking at a Grimm when woged the Grimm in question goes from looking like a normal guy to looking like a sorta normal guy with bottomless pits for eyes that reflect a wessens true nature. This seems to line up with the fact that a lot of the wesen that have reacted to Nick were looking right at him while woged, while some of the wesen that took longer to catch on to what nick was weren't looking directly at Nick the first time he saw them woge.
Why doesn't Nick bother to sit down at his trailer one day and read up on some of the MANY MANY tomes of lore that his aunt has left him. Many of these newer episodes are caused simply by Nick's ignorance. His partner or Monroe should just smack him and make him read a book.
  • There are a few instances where it's suggested he has. But at the same time, those tomes cover hundreds of years of personal experience, often in languages he doesn't understand. And of the languages he would know, natural drift and changes in handwriting might make reading and understanding slow. And some of the information may be incorrect, outdated, or redundant. So it's probably just a very very slow process for him just because of all the work he has to do to decipher a handful of pages. Not to mention he feels inclined to add his own notes. At the end of the day, he's only got a few hours a day to work on it and he's doing the best he can. Unlike his predecessors, he also is friendly with Wesen so he can often get it straight from the source which in many cases could be faster and more accurate.
    • Nick likely spends a lot of time in the trailer using his phone or a tablet or laptop on the internet, translating and retranslating paragraphs, sentences and sentence fragments to get the gist of what's being conveyed by the writing in question, a task no doubt made even more difficult by the fact that internet translation schemes will be using modern day, formal classroom versions of those languages, whereas they were likely written in other languages at least a century (and some of them, many centuries) prior, and could be written using a variety of technical jargon, idioms (that might not even make sense to a modern-day native speaker of the language, like Get Thee to a Nunnery is counter-intuitive to a modern-day English speaker,) abbreviations and slang. One would imagine he prioritized by asking Munroe, Bud and Rosalee what the most common wesen types in the Portland area are as well, but when we see him going up against a new wesen type, chances are it's an obscure type, which is why they cue the research montage with Nick (and optionally, any or all of Munroe, Hank, Rosalee, Renard, and possibly even Juliette,) trying to figure out what in the hell this Monster of the Week is and how to stop it from doing whatever horribleness it does.
  • From what we know, Renard (half-Hexenbiest) is something of an exile from the royal families. It seems like most of his old world information comes by way of old friends and secret informants. So how come he still seems to have all of the authority of a royal (like when he was able to command whatever that priest was in the Lowen games episode)?
    • Although he is illegitimate, he seems to have been legitimized in some way. He's been called a "prince", though if he were merely a bastard he would not be addressed that way. The Wesen who are loyal to him might have come over with him when he left Europe.
    • Or maybe they are refugees from the "old country". I could see a situation where Wesen who are used to living under royal rule might pledge loyalty to Renard in return for safe haven.
    • And at any rate, there have been notable bastards throughout history. If nothing else, the protection of a bastard can be better than the protection of none since they have royal blood. Bastard or not, you don't kill the kings children unless you can get away with it or have power of your own.
  • How come all of the royal related conflicts we have seen stem from Renard's brother. Obviously the brother is a powerful royal, and judging by his influence he might even be the head of his family. But he is probably not the only royal in his family, and even if he is, his family is only one of 7. Add to that that we know he know he has been using his influence to try to get Nick's key. And we know for a fact that ALL the royals would want the key should they learn of its location, say through routine espionage or spying on their ally/enemy,Renard's brother.
    • Well, we did see Renard's ex-girlfriend Mia who hailed from another family cause some trouble for Monroe in "Over My Dead Body".
    • Eric isn't the only royal we've seen from Renard's family. His cousin came to see him. Renard killed him to protect his own authority in Portland.
    • We learn in Endangered that Sean and Eric's family are particularly motivated in the quest for the keys. Of the seven in existence, they control four. Fridge Logic points to either their obsession or their sources giving them an edge.
  • This has been eating at me for a while. In the episode where the group of wesen start robbing banks using their public Woge as a disguise (sorry I don't know the name), The rest of the wesen community becomes agitated. They all go to Rosalee's place to demand that she notify "the council" (Wesen organization charged with defending the Masquerade). Rosalee's response? "The Portland PD are investigating" What gives? that answer is next to useless. What I don't get is why she doesn't tell them the truth, " The Grimm is investigating" the Grimm's reputation for "harsh resolutions" to wesen problems (which would actually be useful in this case), combined with Nick's good reputation in the community, would probably have calmed things right down.
    • Perhaps she thought that saying the PD was reporting it would suggest that the masquerade hasn't been broken and thus drastic measures need not be taken (ie the council isn't going to wipe them off the map). By saying that the Grimm was working on it would instantly tell them that the situation had gotten past the point of no return - Nick is basically the nuclear (or Godzilla) option in this situation.
    • the council wouldn't wipe THEM off the map, they would wipe the OFFENDERS off the map. Also, if it were any other grimm, then saying that a grimm was investigating would be bad, because it would trigger the same kind of panic as the episode where the old testament, all wesen must die grimm came to town. HOWEVER, Nick is known to the community. They will know that he can not only stop the robberies, but won't attract any old world attention, or start any other kind of witch hunt. He is the ideal solution. THE COUNCIL is the Godzilla option option. As is shown by the fact that the hit-man they hired killed the robbers literally WHILE THERE ARE CAMERAS Watching. hows that for to much publicity.
      • Killing the offenders with the cameras rolling was the point. It sends the message to the wesen community that endangering the masquerade will not be tolerated and violators of the code will be smacked down. Note that the robbers had started spawning copy-cats but once they were dead, the copy-cats stopped cold. Also, the wesen community isn't going to take comfort from hearing that a Grimm is on the case; by and large they consider Grimms to be a cross between nightmare monsters, serial killers or (at best) enforcers for the old-world royal families. The fact that a handful of Portland wesen know that Nick is a good guy isn't going to offset that.
      • Something also to consider is that, historically, most Grimms worked for the Royals as enforcers. While Nick is extremely nice for a Grimm, he's just one guy bucking the trend. It wouldn't take much for some wesen who hear "Nick's taking care of those wesen." as potentially "The Royals are coming because someone broke one of our oldest laws.", regardless of how true it was. So even if the Council wasn't on someone's mind, the Royals might be.
  • In 'the ring of fire', Nick talks about '346 degrees below zero'. Which zero does he mean here? Certainly not Celcius, for that would be under 0K, and that's not possible. Kelvin neither, for obvious reasons. But just what is it?
    • By process of elimination, my guess would be Fahrenheit, which would put it around 63 degrees Kelvin.
    • Also, Fahrenheit is the most likely since the series is set in the USA. Most Americans tend to think of temperature in terms of Fahrenheit outside of certain scientific groups, because things like the weather services give temperatures in that scale. As Nick is a cop, not a scientist, he probably thinks in terms of Fahrenheit.
    • It is Fahrenheit, and close to the correct value. Liquid nitrogen boils at 77K, which is equal to -196C and -321F.
  • In 3.01 and 3.02, why do the gang decide to hide Nick's involvement? They already have a real-world excuse—some sort of highly contagious epidemic or psychotropic drug or whatever—and they don't appear to be holding the hundreds of other zombies responsible. Nick was in direct contact with the infected, so it's perfectly reasonable that he would catch it, and, like everyone else, would not be held responsible for his actions while under the influence. Maybe Renard wants the deception so that there's something to hold over him, but why did everyone act as though Nick's bout of crazy couldn't be explained by the "epidemic"?
    • Most likely, they were desperately trying to avoid the media circus that would have ensued if it had gotten out that one of Portland's policeman was among these "zombies" and was responsible for a death and several injuries and terrorizing a family with small children. Whether vindicated or not, Nick would have been publicly tainted and that's last thing any of his companions (especially Renard) wants. He's a Grimm and therefore needs to be under the radar as much as possible.
    • Also, while some of Portland's wesens might be fine with Nick, others may not be, especially the ones Nick has run into before on less than good terms. Should he show up on the news as the center of a bar brawl that killed a man, it's as likely that wesen will see Nick as taking off the kiddy gloves. This could very well makes things extremely difficult if it wasn't kept under wraps. Top it off with that fact that they'd also see Nick 'getting off' with no punishment... yeah, you're going to get some wesen, reapers, and a host of others looking to make Nick a target with very little way of giving them the truth (if they'd even listen or care).
      • Plus, since Renard is known to be a Royal, seeing him handwaving away Nick's actions would suggest a far stronger connection and far different relation than anyone might really want. After all, Grimms were historically often enforcers for Royals...
  • On a related note, why's Renard pulling the Van Helsing Hate Crimes card on Nick during the events of 3.03? True, Nick has at this time killed a pile of wesen and only one human... but the wesen he killed were all dangerous criminals and sociopaths, while the dude in the bar was just some dude in a bar. He doesn't feel guilty for killing him, he feels guilty for murdering him. Why does the question even work?
    • Renard shows Nick the video in which the dude in the bar tried to attack him with a knife, so the implication would be that Nick feels all right with killing Wesen who threaten his life, but not with killing a human in the same situation; or at least that only the former is okay to keep secret (Nick never reported killing the Reapers, for example). And perhaps Nick is a bit scared of turning into the kind of Grimm his ancestors were, which is why the question had an effect. However, having said that, I agree that it worked rather too well.
    • It's implied that Nick carries some amount of guilt over the actions and attitudes of his ancestors against innocent wesen. That probably gave it extra punch. Also, Renard is perfectly entitled to have a perspective that's less than totally enlightened regarding Nick's character. From a narrative point of view, it forestalls having to devote an extended subplot to Nick dealing with his guilt. But I do agree with the original point: Nick was not feeling guilt over killing somebody threatening him, he was feeling guilt because he wasn't in control of his actions and wasn't sure he was justified. He probably got past it as he gained more conviction that he was justified.
  • Why was Eric Renard never married? He was the heir to a prestigious house and so far as we know the only legitimate son of his father. The Seven Royal Families appear to be pretty old school in their ways, so one would figure Eric would have been expected to have a wife and children by the time he reached middle age.
    • He could have mistresses. Or it could just be a calculated risk - having heirs to the heir makes it much much harder for someone to inherit which might make him and his immediate family a much bigger target so he chose to wait until after he knew he was king. By presenting as just a single figure, he seems easy to kill and replace. Or maybe he did have lots of child, he just didn't know or care about (he was a womanizer after all).
    • It also depends on how the laws of succession work for their royal line. It's entirely possible that one of Eric's siblings or cousins would take precedence over his children if he died before taking the throne, thus making it not as urgent until after he assumes the throne. In fact, it could actually make the line of succession more secure if there are no rival claimants to complicate the issue.
    • Now that the King has come into the picture, it's greatly implied that his granddaughter (apparently his only grandchild) would be favored over Viktor for succession. So it brings the whole issue back into question: Why was Eric never married if his children were so important?
    • History is filled with princes who, for one reason or another, prefer fooling around with women of scandalous backgrounds and never getting around to marrying a respectable (noble)woman and producing a legitimate heir. A real world example would be how King George III's first three sons had numerous bastards but no surviving legitimate children, leading to the crown eventually being inherited by Queen Victoria, daughter of George III's fourth son.
  • How is it that Renard doesn't lose his Zauberbiest side after drinking some of Nick's blood in the potion Rosalee prepared for him and Juliette? If it chased out the power of a Hexenbiest from Adalind, and he is the same kind of Wesen (well, half of it anyway), it should have worked for him, too.
    • The blood in the zaubertrank (it's just cooler) was diluted by the other ingredients. It probably needs to be straight to have the de-powering effect.
      • It could even be that once mixed it was a potion, like how recipes that have alcohol in them can't make you drunk once cooked because it reacts and changes. Nick's blood was an ingredient that lost it's Hexenbiest depowering properties once mixed.
    • Possibly also the amount. Nick only gave a drop of blood for the potion. With Adalind, it was a mouthful.
    • Rosalee did not put Nick's blood in Captain Renard's drink. Rosalee only put Nick's blood in Juliette's cup because she was the one who had to remember Nick.
  • Human-wesen mating only has a 50-50 chance of producing a wesen offspring. Naiad women must mate with human males because naiad males are infertile. Does this mean that only half of naiad children are naiads? If so, what do they do with the human kids?
    • Maybe naiad offspring is more dominant than other Wesen-human pairings.
    • Maybe the human kids are raised by the human parents?
  • They really treated Wu horribly. Griffin was 100% right that they should have brought him in, especially after he mentioned the Aswang himself. At the end, not only is he in an insane asylum, they let him continue to think he was hallucinating. Way to treat a colleague, guys. Haven't they figured out yet that keeping secrets beyond their expiration date causes more problems than it solves?
    • They explain in the next episode that revealing the existence after such a traumatic first introduction could drive him crazy. At least now he may recover, but if they revealed the secret he might permanently lose it
  • What was the deal with Diana's eyes? A hexenbiest's eyes look blind when they woge, but hers glowed purple. And what's more, nobody really seemed to notice. When Kelly was dangling the necklace in front of her on the plane, her eyes glowed and then the necklace moved. But Kelly didn't react to her eyes, but the necklace, like she didn't even see them.
    • Diana is supposed to be something new, a harbinger for some sort of great change that is about to happen, thus explaining her strange eye color. Also, a wesen's eyes changing color is nothing to an experienced Grimm like Kelly, it's just a sign that a wesen just woged. Telekinesis, on the other hand, is very unique so that's what draws Kelly's attention.
  • By what logic are we supposed to find the Blutbaden and Bauerschwein equally sympathetic? Keep in mind that prior to Nick Grimms, AT BEST, didn't actively hunt Bauerschwein, and certainly never protected them. As far as Orson knew, there was no outside authority he could go to when his brothers were murdered. Furthermore, in the final confrontation, Nick knocks a gun out of Orson's hand when he's attempting to use it against AN INTRUDER WHO JUST BROKE INTO HIS HOME, AND TRIED TO KILL HIM!
    • ...Protagonist-Centered Morality?
    • In the case at the end, he had already used it against the intruder and incapacitated her (for a short while at least) Nick stopped him murdering her. Plus Nick does acknowledge that the feud is very complicated in "A Dish Served Cold" and thus doesn't actually take sides. He simply does his job and goes after the one which is murdering.
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