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* GenericDoomsdayVillain: The game has been responsible for so many to the point where players have actually grown to dislike such villain types, because there is not much of a point or variation other than fighting them.
** GenericDoomsdayVillain was parodied with the Evil Exploder, who mentioned that he didn't even ''have'' a motivation to conquer the Multiverse.
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Alas Poor Villain is being moved back to Main. Examples that don\'t describe the moment or are purely editor opinion are being deleted.


* AlasPoorVillain - [[spoiler: Incarnate!VideoGame/MegaMan]] seemed to go through this. [[spoiler: Incarnate!Raidou]] as well.
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** Tama Saisei, an Eyebot, tends to be [[CovertPervert a bit of a pervert]], usually recording women in secret and usually try sell DVD copies of it at least once. Months later, [[FalloutNewVegas the Lonesome Road DLC]] was released and it was revealed that ED-E is also a perv too.

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** Tama Saisei, an Eyebot, tends to be [[CovertPervert a bit of a pervert]], usually recording women in secret and usually try sell DVD copies of it at least once. Months later, [[FalloutNewVegas [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas the Lonesome Road DLC]] was released and it was revealed that ED-E is also a perv too.
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* LesYay: Nearly all of Cly's characters, non-stop. Others include Catherine, Cyber Amy, Cryshell, and Gabriella. Last one wasn't played with much, in fact, she didn't want people to know it!

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap - Players will sometimes play characters with a bad status from their source with this Trope in mind. With some players, it usually works.
** This was apparently what [[{{Tropers/CapedLuigisYoshi}} Cly]] intended with his Osaka due to Midna's handling of the character and because he was somewhat bugged by the fact that that's what Osaka is remembered for in the game. So far, he seems to be doing well.
** To some, Bass was incredibly annoying due to breaking the fourth wall on a near-constant basis. When this was fixed, reception became somewhat warmer.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap - Players Invoked, players will sometimes play characters with a negative to bad status from their source with this Trope in mind. With some players, it usually works.
** This was apparently what [[{{Tropers/CapedLuigisYoshi}} Cly]] intended with his Osaka due to Midna's handling of the character and because he was somewhat bugged by the fact that that's what Osaka is remembered for in the game. So far, he seems to be doing well.
** To some, Bass was incredibly annoying due to breaking the fourth wall on a near-constant basis. When this was fixed,
reception became somewhat warmer.in their original work with different qualities or attempt to [[CharacterDevelopment develop]] them out of their roles. Players also use feedback to avoid their own characters becoming Scrappies.
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Nightmare Fuel cleanup; see the thread for details


* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The Incarnates arc could get ''downright terrifying''.


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* NightmareFuel: The Incarnates arc could get ''downright terrifying''.
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*{{Squick}}: In a drug-induced trip, GG cuts open his hand and offers his "[[AlienCatnip skittley blood]]" to a demon with BloodLust and a vampire, with predictable results. The in-universe and out-of-universe reaction ranged from BileFascination to NauseaFuel, but either way...
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* AlasPoorVillain - [[spoiler: Incarnate!MegaMan]] seemed to go through this. [[spoiler: Incarnate!Raidou]] as well.

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* AlasPoorVillain - [[spoiler: Incarnate!MegaMan]] Incarnate!VideoGame/MegaMan]] seemed to go through this. [[spoiler: Incarnate!Raidou]] as well.



* CompleteMonster - [[spoiler: [[Anime/{{Monster}} Johan]]]], true to form; Tails' Other has his moments, yet [[{{Mnemosyne}} Apos]] managed to top them all, though. In and out of her appearances, [[MegaManBattleNetwork Slur]] seems to be this. Hydrogod manages to somehow enjoy the entire fight against Apos, including the MindRape done to him. And then there's Kasei, who seems more interested in torturing his test subjects than actually doing science.

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* CompleteMonster - [[spoiler: [[Anime/{{Monster}} Johan]]]], true to form; Tails' Other has his moments, yet [[{{Mnemosyne}} Apos]] managed to top them all, though. In and out of her appearances, [[MegaManBattleNetwork [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork Slur]] seems to be this. Hydrogod manages to somehow enjoy the entire fight against Apos, including the MindRape done to him. And then there's Kasei, who seems more interested in torturing his test subjects than actually doing science.
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* ExcusePlot: Most of the Whateververse plots, since they consist of nothing but fighting most of the time.

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* ExcusePlot: Most of the Whateververse plots, plots involving villains fighting to take over the Multiverse, since they consist of nothing but fighting most of the time.



** "Generic Whateververse Plot", used by Etheru, refers to plots that have to do with the Multiverse. It's a ''specific'' type, in which it involvees having to fight threats that are trying to destroy/take over the Multiverse as we know it, but it's an idea that's been used with absolutely no variation several times. He uses it in a less than affectionate manner.

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** "Generic Whateververse Plot", used by Etheru, refers to plots that have to do with the Multiverse. It's a ''specific'' type, in which it involvees involves having to fight threats that are trying to destroy/take over the Multiverse as we know it, but it's an idea that's been used with absolutely no variation several times. He uses it in a less than affectionate manner.
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** A [[ProblemSleuth Death]], Tails, Osaka, Game/MegaMan and two different Tenshi Hinanai play a game of Battleship, which Death turns into one awesome game, Tails even lampshades the trope.
** SaladFingers randomly appears and develops an unhealthy obsession with Game/MegaMan's Buster.

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** A [[ProblemSleuth Death]], Tails, Osaka, Game/MegaMan VideoGame/MegaMan and two different Tenshi Hinanai play a game of Battleship, which Death turns into one awesome game, Tails even lampshades the trope.
** SaladFingers randomly appears and develops an unhealthy obsession with Game/MegaMan's VideoGame/MegaMan's Buster.



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* MarySue[=/=]MartyStu: Sometimes this happens to some characters, if making a character ''too'' powerful occurs.

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* MarySue[=/=]MartyStu: Sometimes this happens to some characters, if making a character ''too'' powerful and/or is talked about often occurs.



** AntiSue: Carter/Catherine, in spades. [[IGotBetter She got better, though.]]

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** AntiSue: Carter/Catherine, in spades. [[IGotBetter She got better, though.]]
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* MarySue[=/=]MartyStu: Sometimes this happens to some characters, if ShillingTheWesley or making a character ''too'' powerful--or, sometimes, even both--occurs.

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* MarySue[=/=]MartyStu: Sometimes this happens to some characters, if ShillingTheWesley or making a character ''too'' powerful--or, sometimes, even both--occurs.powerful occurs.
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* {{BLAM Episode}}: The GenreShift Arc.
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** In the ''The World Ends With You'' arc, among other things, Victoria was wangsting about the possibilities of the dead members of the group becoming reincarnated. Enter Alyx Grayson months later, who would later be revealed as the failed reincarnation (due to him losing his memories and becoming a different person) of Carter Grayson.

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** SympatheticSue: Saturn and his characters. Some notable ones are Ty, Skirt, and the player himself in the Discussion itself.

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** SympatheticSue: Saturn and his characters. Some notable ones are Ty, Skirt, and the player himself in the Discussion itself.Skirt.



* UnfortunateImplications: The treatment of some of the female characters can be polarizing. Specifically, Saturn just can't play a woman without going into really inappropriate things, to the point that people just got fed up with his extreme view of women, as if he knew nothing about how one would ever think. For a more direct example, the moment in which Rona, his Volcarona Gijinka, talked to an Other of Yanmie about her breasts. Imca slapped the former and called her a pervert, to which Rona responded by threatening to sue the group once they sided with Imca. \\
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* UnfortunateImplications: The treatment of some of the female characters can be polarizing. Specifically, Saturn just can't play a woman without going into really inappropriate things, to the point that people just got fed up with his extreme view of women, as if he knew nothing about how one would ever think. For a more direct example, the moment in which Rona, his Volcarona Gijinka, talked to an Other of Yanmie about her breasts. Imca slapped the former and called her a pervert, to which Rona responded by threatening to sue the group once they sided with Imca. \\\n\\\n
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\"The Wesley\" has now become Creators Pet, and \"Shilling the Wesley\" has been redirected to it.


* CreatorsPet - Depending on your opinion, the Grayson family. Although players admit they're somewhat decent.
** As an inverted/averted example, though, Victoria in particular was this ''to her own player'' for a time. Other players found her decent or interesting. Said player eventually regretted ever throwing away any possible (and positive!) characterization due to her hating the character so much.
** Another inverted example is Andros. Some players loved his jerkass attitude, [[WriterOnBoard The]] [[NeverLiveItDown Rant]] notwithstanding. The player herself loathed him, especially his canon attitude, to the point where she [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation saw him]] as a whiny, self-centered jerkass--exactly the kind of characterization she was mostly going for.
** This was Midna's opinion of 3Dee (semi-clone of Dee) and Anne (giantess introduced to throw Sapph a bone at first, due to not getting Mana, [[DivergentCharacterEvolution before becoming her own character]]). [[AvertedTrope Nobody agreed with these statements]].
** Deanna became this when her pet cat shilled her as being a goddess and how amazing she is.



* ShillingTheWesley: Deanna gets this. Wren to a very small extent at first, but that improved.
** ShowDontTell: About the only way to reprimand this. Likewise, this is also important in general for roleplaying.



* TheWesley - Depending on your opinion, the Grayson family. Although players admit they're somewhat decent.
** As an inverted/averted example, though, Victoria in particular was this ''to her own player'' for a time. Other players found her decent or interesting. Said player eventually regretted ever throwing away any possible (and positive!) characterization due to her hating the character so much.
** Another inverted example is Andros. Some players loved his jerkass attitude, [[WriterOnBoard The]] [[NeverLiveItDown Rant]] notwithstanding. The player herself loathed him, especially his canon attitude, to the point where she [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation saw him]] as a whiny, self-centered jerkass--exactly the kind of characterization she was mostly going for.
** This was Midna's opinion of 3Dee (semi-clone of Dee) and Anne (giantess introduced to throw Sapph a bone at first, due to not getting Mana, [[DivergentCharacterEvolution before becoming her own character]]). [[AvertedTrope Nobody agreed with these statements]].
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* ArchivePanic - Averted. Several new participants have expressed concern over having to read the 10,000+ page long conversation to fit in, but it is in no way necessary.

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* ArchivePanic - Averted. Several new participants have expressed concern over having to read the 10,000+ 20,000+ page long conversation to fit in, but it is in no way necessary.
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** {{@/Arcadiarika}} has also finally reached the status, being guilty of {{wangst}}, {{Writer On Board}}, refusing to do arcs and ruining them when she joins in, being meta at times due to her "attempts" to correct her behavior, and blatantly refused to change her behavior.
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** {{@/Arcadiarika}} has also finally reached the status, being guilty of {{wangst}}, {{Writer On Board}}, refusing to do arcs and ruining them when she joins in, and being meta at times due to her "attempts" to correct her behavior.

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** {{@/Arcadiarika}} has also finally reached the status, being guilty of {{wangst}}, {{Writer On Board}}, refusing to do arcs and ruining them when she joins in, and being meta at times due to her "attempts" to correct her behavior, and blatantly refused to change her behavior.

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** All of {{@/Arcadiarika}}'s characters, even though they didn't have a bad status from their source, but rather from how the player herself portrayed them. From her break, she realized what she was doing wrong, and she completely revamped all their personalities, with success thus far. Some individual examples:
*** [[PowerRangersLightspeedRescue Carter]]/[[GenderBender Catherine]] kept the CharacterDevelopment of TheHeart, becoming much like a mentor. Previously, she was heavily derailed with Wangst, and she had a severe case of FailureHero.
*** Alyx went from a weak, shy whiner to a happy and outgoing young woman who's completely capable of fighting.
*** [[PowerRangersInSpace Andros]] turned from a complete {{Jerkass}} to a kind hero who only wants to help in order to make up what he did in the past.
*** Victoria simply became much more positive overall, continuing her past personality prior to her changes in the "Witches' Game" arc.


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** {{@/Arcadiarika}} has also finally reached the status, being guilty of {{wangst}}, {{Writer On Board}}, refusing to do arcs and ruining them when she joins in, and being meta at times due to her "attempts" to correct her behavior.
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** Tama Saisei, an Eyebot, tends to be [[CovertPervert a bit of a pervert]], usually recording women in secret and usually try sell DVD copies of it at least once. Months later, [[FalloutNewVegas the Lonesome Road DLC]] was released and it was revealed that ED-E is also a perv too.
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None of these are God Mode Sues, following the description in the Trope article. None of them \"exist purely to show up how pathetically weak the rest of the world is, and how badly they need his or her help\" (taken from the Trope description). All the incarnations of antagonistic Yukaris as well as the Retconinator were defeated in a fair and square battle, plainly showing that no, the plot does not work for them. Merely having extraordinary powers does NOT qualify them for the Sue-part of God Mode Sue. Matt was not a GMS either, as he was quite weak as a ghost except for that he could get into the Retconinator\'s head and thus was instrumental to its defeat. The short moment where he was in control of his Retconinated body also does not count, as he never used the powers in such a way that qualifies as a God Mode Sue before dying (again). Conclusion; none of the examples are God Mode Sues.


** GodModeSue: The worst offenders of that particular type of Sue include Other!Yukari, Incarnate!Yukari, and the Retconinator.\\
And since his body was used for the machine, shared a few such characteristics, and [[OnlyICanKillHim ended up being the only person who could stop the Retconinator]], [[MyLittleEye Matt]] is also this. [[hottip:*:Just as powerful as the Retconinator itself--which makes sense, as it was his own body that he was dealing with--and sporting a {{Determinator}} attitude during such fights, the only true way to stop him was his second HeroicSacrifice.]][[hottip:**:Put it this way: Matt can take hits and become unaffected by most of them, being a ghost. He can unleash [[SignatureMove Shadow Balls]], among other Ghost-type attacks, like there's no tomorrow. When he shows even the darkest attitudes, the group loves him regardless. Hell, if given the chance, he can even take down three of ''PowerRangers''' toughest {{Memetic Badass}}es--Tommy Oliver, Adam Park, and ''even his own Other, Carter Grayson''--if he wants to. ]] Not that it's a bad thing, mind, as his power didn't hurt his likability.
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If the only one that was the problem was \"Regular Yukari\", which you stated yourself, please just remove that one. The rest was correct. Thank you.

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** GodModeSue: The worst offenders of that particular type of Sue include Other!Yukari, Incarnate!Yukari, and the Retconinator.\\
And since his body was used for the machine, shared a few such characteristics, and [[OnlyICanKillHim ended up being the only person who could stop the Retconinator]], [[MyLittleEye Matt]] is also this. [[hottip:*:Just as powerful as the Retconinator itself--which makes sense, as it was his own body that he was dealing with--and sporting a {{Determinator}} attitude during such fights, the only true way to stop him was his second HeroicSacrifice.]][[hottip:**:Put it this way: Matt can take hits and become unaffected by most of them, being a ghost. He can unleash [[SignatureMove Shadow Balls]], among other Ghost-type attacks, like there's no tomorrow. When he shows even the darkest attitudes, the group loves him regardless. Hell, if given the chance, he can even take down three of ''PowerRangers''' toughest {{Memetic Badass}}es--Tommy Oliver, Adam Park, and ''even his own Other, Carter Grayson''--if he wants to. ]] Not that it's a bad thing, mind, as his power didn't hurt his likability.
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** GodModeSue: The worst offenders of that particular type of Sue include Other!Yukari, Incarnate!Yukari, and the Retconinator.\\
And since his body was used for the machine, shared a few such characteristics, and [[OnlyICanKillHim ended up being the only person who could stop the Retconinator]], [[MyLittleEye Matt]] is also this. [[hottip:*:Just as powerful as the Retconinator itself--which makes sense, as it was his own body that he was dealing with--and sporting a {{Determinator}} attitude during such fights, the only true way to stop him was his second HeroicSacrifice.]][[hottip:**:Put it this way: Matt can take hits and become unaffected by most of them, being a ghost. He can unleash [[SignatureMove Shadow Balls]], among other Ghost-type attacks, like there's no tomorrow. When he shows even the darkest attitudes, the group loves him regardless. Hell, if given the chance, he can even take down three of ''PowerRangers''' toughest {{Memetic Badass}}es--Tommy Oliver, Adam Park, and ''even his own Other, Carter Grayson''--if he wants to. ]] Not that it's a bad thing, mind, as his power didn't hurt his likability.
*** Regular Yukari has many traits of this as well.
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* FetishFuel - It's indulged a bit, but at the very same time conversed.
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** Cyber Amy(A.K.A. Amy being fused with her father Deviot's soul) literally rapes [[{{ptitle6tiifl5njuo5}} Black Mage]].

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** Cyber Amy(A.K.A. Amy being fused with her father Deviot's soul) literally rapes [[{{ptitle6tiifl5njuo5}} [[Webcomic/EightBitTheater Black Mage]].
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** '''''All the''''' (insert object of choice). '''''[[{{Homestuck}} All of them.]]'''''

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** '''''All the''''' (insert object of choice). '''''[[{{Homestuck}} '''''[[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} All of them.]]'''''
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we no longer collect Fetish Fuel


* FetishFuel - It's indulged a bit, but at the very same time conversed.
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* HarsherInHindsight: When the group first appeared in the Naruto world, Michael hated it for...reasons unknown. Said world had ninjas in it, so why is it harsh? In Castlevania, where he took a break, he had to fight against [[{{Umineko}} Maria]] and [[{{Trigun}} Legato]], and the resulting battle caused him to gain a cyborg ninja body in order to survive.

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* HarsherInHindsight: When the group first appeared in the Naruto world, Michael hated it for...reasons unknown. Said world had ninjas in it, so why is it harsh? In Castlevania, where he took a break, he had to fight against [[{{Umineko}} [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Maria]] and [[{{Trigun}} Legato]], and the resulting battle caused him to gain a cyborg ninja body in order to survive.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In an attempt to get rid of Bass's rather unsavory ability that's been mentioned before, a literal retcon was used to (almost) remove the ability forever. There were no regrets.
** Clumsily done by Psyko Reaper, who started a fight using Dr. Doom planning to jumpstart an arc. However, players were annoyed by the spontaneous fight scene, and he retconned it into being AllJustADream.
** Anytime a character is killed for having a bad impression on other players or just being hated by the original player, this is usually regarded as ''incredibly lazy'', bonus points if the character in question was killed anticlimatically or offscreen.

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