History YMMV / ShinMegamiTensei

17th Apr '17 1:54:20 PM Morgenthaler
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** There are quite a lot of arguments over the alignments as a whole, but Law stands outs. Either it's a LawfulNeutral faction that, despite it's flaws, [[WellIntentionedExtremist means well for humanity]], and it's collectivist beliefs in the face of soul-corrupting demons as a NecessaryEvil... or it's a brutal, tyrannical, fascist nightmare, determing to rape the freedom of humanity into [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill mindless submission to YHVH]], and [[YouBastard you should feel bad if you side with it.]] Trust me when I say that there is NO middle-ground. So yeah... support [[ShinMegamiTenseiI Yoshio]], [[ShinMegamiTenseiII Zayin]], [[ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Zelenin]] and [[ShinMegamiTenseiIV Jonathan]] ''[[InternetBackdraft at your own risk.]]''

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** There are quite a lot of arguments over the alignments as a whole, but Law stands outs. Either it's a LawfulNeutral faction that, despite it's flaws, [[WellIntentionedExtremist means well for humanity]], and it's collectivist beliefs in the face of soul-corrupting demons as a NecessaryEvil... or it's a brutal, tyrannical, fascist nightmare, determing to rape the freedom of humanity into [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill mindless submission to YHVH]], and [[YouBastard you should feel bad if you side with it.]] Trust me when I say that there is NO middle-ground. So yeah... support [[ShinMegamiTenseiI [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI Yoshio]], [[ShinMegamiTenseiII [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII Zayin]], [[ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Zelenin]] and [[ShinMegamiTenseiIV [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV Jonathan]] ''[[InternetBackdraft at your own risk.]]''
6th Apr '17 12:31:38 AM matteste
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** The general quality of the localization's done by Atlus USA in recent years has become something of a topic of discussion. This has been primarily a result of numerous cases CutAndPasteTranslation, poor text formatting or outright untranslated text being left in the English versions. ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' are commonly used as examples of this.
5th Apr '17 12:41:08 AM matteste
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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: ''Persona'' gets this treatment by longstanding fans of the main series, as do installments of other sub-series, most commonly ''Videogame/DevilSurvivor2'' and ''Videogame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', which these fans see as including ''Persona''-esque elements to boost sales to the detriment of the gam's overall quality.

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: ''Persona'' gets this treatment by longstanding fans of the main series, as do installments of other sub-series, most commonly ''Videogame/DevilSurvivor2'' and ''Videogame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', which these fans see as including ''Persona''-esque elements to boost sales to the detriment of the gam's game's overall quality.
4th Apr '17 10:54:06 AM HamburgerTime
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* CreatorWorship: The series' creator and first director, Kouji "Cozy" Okada, and its iconic artist, Kazuma Kaneko, get this. Some fans even feel that later games following Okada's departure from Atlus and Kaneko reducing his involvement [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight simply aren't the same]].



* ItsPopularNowItSucks: ''Persona'' has been receiving this treatment by main fans recently.

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: ''Persona'' has been receiving gets this treatment by longstanding fans of the main series, as do installments of other sub-series, most commonly ''Videogame/DevilSurvivor2'' and ''Videogame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', which these fans recently.see as including ''Persona''-esque elements to boost sales to the detriment of the gam's overall quality.
14th Mar '17 4:02:44 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* ItWasHisSled: If a game lets you fight YHVH and defeat Him, it's a safe bet that it'll be one of the most well-known twists of the game. Most notably, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' uses his return as a ''selling point''.

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* ItWasHisSled: If a game lets you fight YHVH and defeat Him, it's a safe bet that it'll be one of the most well-known twists of the game. Most notably, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' uses his His return as a ''selling point''.
14th Mar '17 4:02:31 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* ItWasHisSled: If a game lets you fight YHVH and defeat Him, it's a safe bet that it'll be one of the most well-known twists of the game.

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* ItWasHisSled: If a game lets you fight YHVH and defeat Him, it's a safe bet that it'll be one of the most well-known twists of the game. Most notably, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' uses his return as a ''selling point''.
9th Feb '17 12:14:14 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** In games with the Press Turn system, many enemies, [[SecretAIMoves and enemies only]], have moves that grant them additional half-turns, such as Beast Eye and Dragon Eye in ''III'' and Psycho-Rage in ''Digital Devil Saga'', making one enemy feel like several. ''IV'' lets you get Guardian's Eye, but it requires defeating the hardest DLC boss in the game and it costs an outrageous ''255 MP''.
13th Jan '17 12:35:30 PM matteste
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** Kaneko in his field of flowers.[[labelnote:Explanation]]As a result of Kaneko's seemingly shrinking involvement in the series, it leads to a lot of people giving the answer when asked where he has gone of to that he is now spending time in his flower-field that was shown in the ''Persona 2'' guide book. A variation of the meme is that he instead is locked in Atlus' secret bunker, only allowed out to smoke once a year.[[/labelnote]]
8th Jan '17 7:51:13 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: [[http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Arioch Arioch]]'s... [[VaginaDentata stomach-mouth...]] thing.
13th Dec '16 1:25:50 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** The video game series as a whole is much more popular than the original ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilStory'' that the series initially used as source material.

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** The video game series as a whole is much more popular than the original ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilStory'' ''Literature/DigitalDevilStory'' that the series initially used as source material.
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