History YMMV / ShinMegamiTensei

30th Mar '18 1:01:01 PM ArgonianLorekeeper
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** Kaneko in his field of flowers.[[labelnote:Explanation]]As a result of Kaneko's seemingly shrinking involvement in the series, it leads to a lot of people giving the answer when asked where he has gone of to that he is now spending time in his flower-field that was shown in the ''Persona 2'' guide book. A variation of the meme is that he instead is locked in Atlus' secret bunker, only allowed out to smoke once a year.[[/labelnote]]

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** Kaneko in his field of flowers.[[labelnote:Explanation]]As a result of Kaneko's seemingly shrinking involvement in the series, it leads to a lot of people giving the answer when asked where he has gone of off to that he is now spending time in his flower-field that was shown in the ''Persona 2'' guide book. A variation of the meme is that he instead is locked in Atlus' secret bunker, only allowed out to smoke once a year.[[/labelnote]]



** ''Persona'', [[CashCowFranchise natch]].

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** ''Persona'', [[CashCowFranchise natch]].naturally]].
30th Mar '18 12:53:08 PM ArgonianLorekeeper
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** The Law-alignment from ''SMT'' proper is this. If not a [[TheScrappy Scrappy alignment]] for it's belief in a WorldOfSilence where all worships [[GodIsEvil YHVH]] for eternity, it's definitely a BaseBreaker, with ''tons'' of controversy coming from the alignment in America. That said, it's actually considered a reasonable option in Japan, largely because their values system promotes social harmony, cooperation and compromise, and ideas such as destabilizing said social harmony for the sake of freedom is [[ValuesDissonance widely considered selfish and wrong there.]] It helps that Christianity isn't as big in Japan; had the original games been released in the US in the 90's, cartridge-burning protests would've likely ensued from MoralGuardian parents. [[http://gonintendo.com/stories/125558-shin-megami-tensei-law-chaos-and-the-american-way This link really sums it up nicely.]]

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** The Law-alignment from ''SMT'' proper is this. If not a [[TheScrappy Scrappy alignment]] for it's its belief in a WorldOfSilence where all worships [[GodIsEvil YHVH]] for eternity, it's definitely a BaseBreaker, with ''tons'' of controversy coming from the alignment in America. That said, it's actually considered a reasonable option in Japan, largely because their values system promotes social harmony, cooperation and compromise, and ideas such as destabilizing said social harmony for the sake of freedom is [[ValuesDissonance widely considered selfish and wrong there.]] It helps that Christianity isn't as big in Japan; had the original games been released in the US in the 90's, cartridge-burning protests would've likely ensued from MoralGuardian parents. [[http://gonintendo.com/stories/125558-shin-megami-tensei-law-chaos-and-the-american-way This link really sums it up nicely.]]
25th Feb '18 9:31:20 PM nombretomado
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* MST3KMantra: Satan is based on the Jewish view of Satan, the QuirkyMinibossSquad has the Catholic Raphael and non-canonical Uriel, and [[spoiler:only a few people will be allowed into the Millennium Kingdom]] in ShinMegamiTenseiII, which mirrors (the Hollywood version of) Jehovah's Witness teachings and those of far-right American Protestants. Thor, Mikazuchi, and various other thunder gods [[AllMythsAreTrue co-exist]] and move on.

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* MST3KMantra: Satan is based on the Jewish view of Satan, the QuirkyMinibossSquad has the Catholic Raphael and non-canonical Uriel, and [[spoiler:only a few people will be allowed into the Millennium Kingdom]] in ShinMegamiTenseiII, ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', which mirrors (the Hollywood version of) Jehovah's Witness teachings and those of far-right American Protestants. Thor, Mikazuchi, and various other thunder gods [[AllMythsAreTrue co-exist]] and move on.
12th Feb '18 11:35:02 PM Gadjiltron
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** Use buffs, retard. [[labelnote:Explanation]]A common notion that players of other [=JRPGs=] carry is that buff and debuff skills are all {{Useless Useful Spell}}s. The series averts this hard, where buffs and debuffs can determine whether you barely survive an attack or suffer a TotalPartyKill. This is one of the first pieces of advice to be given to anyone inexperienced with SMT.[[/labelnote]]
28th Jan '18 2:04:25 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** The FinalBoss fights with [[spoiler:YHVH -- yes, ''that'' YHVH --]] in ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' and ''IV: Apocalypse'' are some of the most well-known parts of the series.
** The BonusBoss fight with [[spoiler:the Demi-Fiend]] in ''Digital Devil Saga'', for being one of the hardest fights in the series, if not ''the'' most difficult.
23rd Jan '18 2:32:38 PM andynj373
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** Mothman tends to be a fairly popular demon, usually for often being a solid mid-game demon and its UglyCute design.
5th Jan '18 12:55:15 AM matteste
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** ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''. First, for being a huge AudienceAlienatingPremise. Many fans were expecting something like ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', considering ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' is a turn-based strategy game, or at least a [=SMT=] game with FE elements. And second, for looking more a "Persona" game rather than a [=SMT=] game. While some fans consider it a good title despite not resembling [=SMT=] at all, other think this was another average {{Moe}} game and a wasted opportunity to make a crossover of two acclaimed franchises.

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** ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''. First, for being a huge AudienceAlienatingPremise. Many fans were expecting something like ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', considering ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' is a turn-based strategy game, or at least a [=SMT=] game with FE elements. And second, for looking more a "Persona" game rather than a [=SMT=] or FE game. While some fans consider it a good title despite not resembling [=SMT=] at all, other think this was another average {{Moe}} game and a wasted opportunity to make a crossover of two acclaimed franchises.
4th Jan '18 1:00:15 PM mizorefan
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** The franchise moving from ''Playstation'' home consoles to ''Nintendo'' handhelds (''UsefulNotes/NintendoDS'' and ''UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS'') after the ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation2'' era. This frustrated many ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation3'' owners which predicted the console getting new titles. Not only [=PS3=] didn't get any new [=SMT=] game outside of re-releases of [=PS2=] games but only got ''Persona 5'' at the very end of the generation, which was released for the more popular ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation4'' too.
%%** ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''

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** The franchise moving from ''Playstation'' home consoles to ''Nintendo'' handhelds (''UsefulNotes/NintendoDS'' and ''UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS'') after the ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation2'' era. This frustrated many ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation3'' owners which predicted the console getting new titles. Not only [=PS3=] didn't get any new [=SMT=] game outside of re-releases of [=PS2=] games but only got ''Persona 5'' at the very end of the generation, which was released for the more popular ''UsefulNotes/PlayStation4'' too.
%%** ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''
too. Nintendo fans, especially handheld owners, loved it considering the low third party support outside of Atlus, Square-Enix and Capcom trio.
** ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''. First, for being a huge AudienceAlienatingPremise. Many fans were expecting something like ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', considering ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' is a turn-based strategy game, or at least a [=SMT=] game with FE elements. And second, for looking more a "Persona" game rather than a [=SMT=] game. While some fans consider it a good title despite not resembling [=SMT=] at all, other think this was another average {{Moe}} game and a wasted opportunity to make a crossover of two acclaimed franchises.
25th Dec '17 10:30:19 AM HighCrate
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** In the West, the games that do get released and aren't ''Persona 3'', ''4'', ''5'', or any of their spinoffs are under-the-radar {{Cult Classic}}s at best and bashed for not being ''Persona'' at worst. ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' was hit by the BiasSteamroller particularly hard, as it was released around the time that ''Persona'' really started to skyrocket in popularity outside of Japan; see BrokenBase below. As for the franchise as a whole, many Westerners are [[ItsHardSoItSucks put off by the intense difficulty]] that borders on [[LuckBasedMission requiring sheer luck]] and excessive amounts of preparation at times.

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** In the West, the games that do get released and aren't ''Persona 3'', ''4'', ''5'', or any of their spinoffs are under-the-radar {{Cult Classic}}s at best and bashed for not being ''Persona'' at worst. ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' was hit by the BiasSteamroller particularly hard, as it was released around the time that ''Persona'' really started to skyrocket in popularity outside of Japan; see BrokenBase below. As for the franchise as a whole, many Westerners are [[ItsHardSoItSucks put off by the intense difficulty]] that borders on [[LuckBasedMission requiring sheer luck]] and excessive amounts of preparation at times.
18th Dec '17 10:35:09 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ParanoiaFuel: An integral part of many of the ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' games.

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%% * ParanoiaFuel: An integral part of many of the ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' games.
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