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* BrokenAesop: The episode ''wants'' to be about taking responsibility for your actions. Unfortunately, it mistakenly convinces itself that ''Ash'' is the one who needs to take responsibility, when the true UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom is the Samurai--the Beedrill swarm was summoned by the escaped Weedle, so the Samurai who distracted Ash and ''let the Weedle escape'' is at fault. The episode proceeds to take the Samurai's side when he blames Ash not only for letting the Weedle escape but for the Beedrill kidnapping Ash's Metapod--in effect it creates an unintentional {{Hypocrite}} by having the guilty party insist that it's NeverMyFault while convincing an unlucky schlub that ItsAllMyFault.
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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: The [[Literature/PocketMonstersTheAnimation novel version of the episode]] by Creator/TakeshiShudo fixes the BrokenAesop. Weedle is caught by the Bug Catcher (Samurai's replacement) at the beginning of the chapter and the Beedrill are out hunting as opposed to being out for revenge. Ash forgets to recall Metapod and makes up excuses for it, and [[AdaptationalHeroism then Bug Catcher]] calls him out for it, [[WhatTheHellHero even tearing up at the thought of someone else's bug Pokémon becoming the Beedrill's snack]]. Ash then acknowledges his immaturity. This really gives more meaning to Ash's character development in this story.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Taking responsibility for one's own actions is a very important lesson for kids to learn early on when growing up... too bad it's muddled by the fact that it genuinely ''wasn't'' Ash's fault for everything that happened in this episode, [[DesignatedVillain despite what the episode tries to tell you.]]
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* DontShootTheMessage: Taking responsibility for one's own actions is a very important lesson for kids to learn early on when growing up... too bad it's muddled by the fact that it genuinely ''wasn't'' Ash's fault for everything that happened in this episode, [[DesignatedVillain [[InformedWrongness despite what the episode tries to tell you.]]
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* SignatureScene: The Metapod duel, which solely consists of both cocoon Pokemon hardening over and over and over and [[OverlyLongGag over]] again.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Ash's Metapod for acting hurt over Ash "not coming for it earlier", again, even though Ash risked his own well-being to save it from the Beedrill before Misty pulled him away. [[MadeOutToBeAJerkass Ash, again, apologized]] for something that couldn't be helped.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom and the actual example of [[NeverMyFault passing the buck]], so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim and the Samurai himself an Articuno grade {{hypocrite}}.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom and the actual example of [[NeverMyFault passing the buck]], so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim and the Samurai himself an Articuno grade {{hypocrite}}.{{hypocrite}} and {{gaslight|ing}}er.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom, so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom, UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom and the actual example of [[NeverMyFault passing the buck]], so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim.victim and the Samurai himself an Articuno grade {{hypocrite}}.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom, so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode really is trying to have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but Ash's actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom, so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim.victim.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai, the first Character of the Day, is hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai, the first Character of the Day, is hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Taking responsibility for one's own actions is a very important lesson for kids to learn early on when growing up... To bad it's muddled by the fact that it genuinely ''wasn't'' Ash's fault for everything that happened in this episode, [[DesignatedVillain despite what the episode tries to tell you.]]
* InformedWrongness: Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
* InformedWrongness: Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Taking responsibility for one's own actions is a very important lesson for kids to learn early on when growing up... To too bad it's muddled by the fact that it genuinely ''wasn't'' Ash's fault for everything that happened in this episode, [[DesignatedVillain despite what the episode tries to tell you.]]
* InformedWrongness:Ash is presented as being The episode's fundamental BrokenAesop rests on ignoring the Samurai's part in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' Beedrill swarm and then agreeing with the Samurai who was responsible when he blames Ash for everything that the swarm kidnapping his Metapod. What actually happens in this episode.the episode is that the Samurai interrupts Ash's attempt to capture a Weedle by sticking a deadly weapon in his face and then demanding a battle, providing the distraction for the Weedle to escape and summon the Beedrill swarm.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode tries to frame Ash as [[NeverMyFault making serious blunders and refusing to own up to them]], but he doesn't do a single thing wrong: Samurai causes Ash to mess up when he tries to catch the Weedle, meaning that it's ''his'' fault that the Beedrill swarm comes after them for revenge. Even Ash's detractors think this episode was ridiculously unfair towards him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode tries really is trying to frame Ash as [[NeverMyFault making serious blunders and refusing to own up to them]], have an Aesop about taking responsibility for your actions, but he doesn't do a single thing wrong: Samurai causes Ash to mess up when he tries to catch the Weedle, meaning that it's ''his'' fault that the Beedrill swarm comes after them for revenge. Even Ash's detractors think this actions aren't what actually cause the problem, and ''worse'', the episode tries to deliver that Aesop through the Samurai, the character whose actions ''were'' responsible for what happened--it's the ''Samurai'' who was ridiculously unfair towards him.the UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom, so for him to blame Ash makes Ash seem like a bullying victim.
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* InformedWrongness: The biggest problem with this episode is the fact that Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
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* InformedWrongness: The biggest problem with this episode is the fact that Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai, the first Character of the Day, is hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai, the first Character of the Day, is hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.Skin.
* SignatureScene: The Metapod duel, which solely consists of both cocoon Pokemon hardening over and over and over and [[OverlyLongGag over]] again.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode tries to frame Ash as [[NeverMyFault making serious blunders and refusing to own up to them]], but he doesn't do a single thing wrong: Samurai causes Ash to mess up when he tries to catch the Weedle, meaning that it's ''his'' fault that the Beedrill swarm comes after them for revenge. Even Ash's detractors think this episode was ridiculously unfair towards him.
* SignatureScene: The Metapod duel, which solely consists of both cocoon Pokemon hardening over and over and over and [[OverlyLongGag over]] again.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The episode tries to frame Ash as [[NeverMyFault making serious blunders and refusing to own up to them]], but he doesn't do a single thing wrong: Samurai causes Ash to mess up when he tries to catch the Weedle, meaning that it's ''his'' fault that the Beedrill swarm comes after them for revenge. Even Ash's detractors think this episode was ridiculously unfair towards him.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Taking responsibility for one's own actions is a very important lesson for kids to learn early on when growing up... To bad it's muddled by the fact that it genuinely ''wasn't'' Ash's fault for everything that happened in this episode, [[DesignatedVillain despite what the episode tries to tell you.]]
* InformedWrongness: The biggest problem with this episode is the fact that Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
* InformedWrongness: The biggest problem with this episode is the fact that Ash is presented as being in the wrong for being mad at the Samurai, despite the fact that it really ''was'' the Samurai who was responsible for everything that happens in this episode.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai is universally hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai Samurai, the first Character of the Day, is universally hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
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* TheScrappy: The Samurai is universally hated for interrupting Ash when he's in the middle of catching a Weedle in order to challenge him, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom causing said Pokémon to call a swarm of angry Beedrill, which proceed to steal Ash's Metapod and force them into hiding]]. The samurai [[{{Hypocrite}} angrily blames]] and berates Ash for not taking responsibility, even though Ash tried his hardest and that [[NeverMyFault all of this was the samurai's fault]] in the first place! About the only positive thing about him is that he's a starter trainer with a [[BigCreepyCrawlies Pinsir]]. Otherwise, had it not been for [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments the Metapod vs. Metapod battle]] and [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Ash's Metapod evolving into Butterfree]], this episode would have been discarded quicker than Shed Skin.
