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* TierInducedScrappy: Humans received some flak for [[MasterOfNone not being as specialized as the other races]]. For melee and gun-using classes, they were outclassed by Beasts and [=CASTs=] (especially since they lacked SUV Weapons/Nanoblasts.) For [=TECHNIC=]-using classes, Newmans had better stats suited for those classes.

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* TierInducedScrappy: Humans received some flak for [[MasterOfNone not being as specialized as the other races]]. For melee and gun-using classes, they were outclassed by Beasts and [=CASTs=] (especially since they lacked SUV Weapons/Nanoblasts.) Weapons/Nanoblasts). For [=TECHNIC=]-using classes, Newmans had better stats suited better for those classes.them.
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* FanNickname:
** Anga Jabroken, in reference to Anga Jabroga's status as a Gamebreaker.
** Lolitechers, who are [[TokenMiniMoe very small]] Newman female Fortetechers/Masterforces/etc.
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* IKnewIt: Many theorized that [[spoiler:Hyuga has become a Dewman,]] which is confirmed in [=PSP2i=].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kumhan, Sun King of the Ancients]], seeks to resurrect his empire by any means necessary. [[DemonicPossession Possessing]] Shizuru Shu, he [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] the governing system to commit to a project to subspace travel, which is a farce so that he can bring back him empire. In order to make it into a reality, he invades territories that can be a threat to his plan and gains clues in recovering his kingdom via using people he brainwashes, and uses [=SEEDs=] to eliminate any opposing forces. He finds out that another Ancient, one of his former wives named Mika, has the key to bring back the ancient civilization and is inhabiting the body of Emilia, so he captures her. He then plans to destroy the social construct and become king, abandoning his vessel Shu whether he frees himself or commits suicide. His end goal after being cornered is to summon an armada of [=SEEDs=] in hopes of killing his enemies, and trying to kill the main heroes himself. Willing to destroy his successors, Kumhan only wants to back his world [[AmbitionIsEvil to become the king once again]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kumhan, Sun King of the Ancients]], seeks to resurrect his empire by any means necessary. [[DemonicPossession Possessing]] Shizuru Shu, he [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] the governing system to commit to a project to subspace travel, which is a farce so that he can bring back him his empire. In order to make it into a reality, he invades territories that can be a threat to threaten his plan and gains plan, gathers clues in recovering his kingdom via using people he brainwashes, brainwashing people, and uses [=SEEDs=] the [=SEED=] to eliminate any opposing forces. He Later, he finds out that another Ancient, one of his former wives named Mika, has the key to bring back the ancient civilization and is inhabiting the body of Emilia, so Emilia. So he captures her. He then plans to destroy the social construct and become king, abandoning his vessel Shu whether he frees himself or commits suicide. His end goal after being cornered is to summon an armada of [=SEEDs=] in hopes of killing [=SEED=] to his enemies, and trying then try to kill the main heroes himself. Willing to destroy his successors, Kumhan only wants to bring back his world [[AmbitionIsEvil [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans to become the king once again]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kumhan, Sun King of the Ancients]], seeks to resurrect his empire by any means necessary. [[DemonicPossession Possessing]] Shizuru Shu, he [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] the governing system to commit to a project to subspace travel, which is a farce so that he can bring back him empire. In order to make it into a reality, he invades territories that can be a threat to his plan and gains clues in recovering his kingdom via using people he brainwashes, and uses [=SEEDs=] to eliminate any opposing forces. He finds out that another Ancient, one of his former wives named Mika, has the key to bring back the ancient civilization and is inhabiting the body of Emilia, so he captures her. He then plans to destroy the social construct and become king, abandoning his vessel Shu whether he frees himself or commits suicide. His end goal after being cornered is to summon an armada of [=SEEDs=] in hopes of killing his enemies, and trying to kill the main heroes himself. Willing to destroy his successors, Kumham only wants to back his world [[AmbitionIsEvil to become the king once again]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kumhan, Sun King of the Ancients]], seeks to resurrect his empire by any means necessary. [[DemonicPossession Possessing]] Shizuru Shu, he [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] the governing system to commit to a project to subspace travel, which is a farce so that he can bring back him empire. In order to make it into a reality, he invades territories that can be a threat to his plan and gains clues in recovering his kingdom via using people he brainwashes, and uses [=SEEDs=] to eliminate any opposing forces. He finds out that another Ancient, one of his former wives named Mika, has the key to bring back the ancient civilization and is inhabiting the body of Emilia, so he captures her. He then plans to destroy the social construct and become king, abandoning his vessel Shu whether he frees himself or commits suicide. His end goal after being cornered is to summon an armada of [=SEEDs=] in hopes of killing his enemies, and trying to kill the main heroes himself. Willing to destroy his successors, Kumham Kumhan only wants to back his world [[AmbitionIsEvil to become the king once again]].
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* GoddamnedBats: Burrowing worm-like enemies like the Goshin are invincible while they burrow. And they burrow a ''lot''.
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* EarWorm: The sub-series' theme tune, ''Save This World'', in its multiple incarnations. People either adore it or find it ear-splittingly grating, especially the original version from ''Universe.''
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*** What didn't help was that, with the English versions at least, all of those nerfs took almost forever to release, causing players to become increasingly annoyed at people spamming use of them, [[NotMyProblem while the Japanese versions never had the problem.]]

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*** What didn't help was that, with the English versions at least, all of those nerfs took almost forever to release, causing players to become increasingly annoyed at people spamming use of them, [[NotMyProblem while the Japanese versions never had the problem.]]
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* FanNickname:
** Anga Jabroken, in reference to Anga Jabroga's status as a Gamebreaker.
** Lolitechers, who are [[TokenMiniMoe very small]] Newman female Fortetechers/Masterforces/etc.
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*CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kumhan, Sun King of the Ancients]], seeks to resurrect his empire by any means necessary. [[DemonicPossession Possessing]] Shizuru Shu, he [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] the governing system to commit to a project to subspace travel, which is a farce so that he can bring back him empire. In order to make it into a reality, he invades territories that can be a threat to his plan and gains clues in recovering his kingdom via using people he brainwashes, and uses [=SEEDs=] to eliminate any opposing forces. He finds out that another Ancient, one of his former wives named Mika, has the key to bring back the ancient civilization and is inhabiting the body of Emilia, so he captures her. He then plans to destroy the social construct and become king, abandoning his vessel Shu whether he frees himself or commits suicide. His end goal after being cornered is to summon an armada of [=SEEDs=] in hopes of killing his enemies, and trying to kill the main heroes himself. Willing to destroy his successors, Kumham only wants to back his world [[AmbitionIsEvil to become the king once again]].

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** This tendency prompted Sega to introduce the "GUARDIANS Boost Road," encouraging players to run chains of other missions for greater gains compared to spamming a single mission over and over.

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** This tendency prompted Sega to introduce the "GUARDIANS Boost Road," encouraging players to run chains of other missions for greater gains compared to spamming a single mission over and over. [[ExecutiveMeddling Of course, it took several months to implement in the US/EU versions, due to delays in updates.]]


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*** What didn't help was that, with the English versions at least, all of those nerfs took almost forever to release, causing players to become increasingly annoyed at people spamming use of them, [[NotMyProblem while the Japanese versions never had the problem.]]

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: [=CASTS=] and Beasts were more commonly used by serious players (For melee and gun-using classes) than Humans or Newmans due to their LimitBreak racial abilities. For [=TECHNIC=]-using classes, however, Newmans (particularly female Newmans) were the top pick.



* FanNickname: Anga Jabroken, in reference to Anga Jabroga's gamebreaking status.
** Also Lolitechers, who are Newman females Techers who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin ...yeah.]]
* GameBreaker: Anga Jabroga, however, a future update will nerf this Art. Whether or not it will still be a Game Breaker is something only time can tell.
** Shotguns are considered to be this these days by some of the players, especially in the Gunmaster class.

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* FanNickname: FanNickname:
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Anga Jabroken, in reference to Anga Jabroga's gamebreaking status.
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** Also Lolitechers, who are [[TokenMiniMoe very small]] Newman females Techers who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin ...yeah.]]
female Fortetechers/Masterforces/etc.
* GameBreaker: Some weapons and Photon Arts were considered this during the game's run.
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Anga Jabroga, however, an Axe Photon Art, was infamous for being capable of easily wiping out crowds of enemies. It was nerfed later on, though.
** Dus Majarra,
a future update will nerf this Art. Whether or not Spear Photon Art, was capable of dealing incredible damage during the second attack in its combo. When Dus Majarra was nerfed, it will still be a Game Breaker is something only time can tell.
was that part of the combo specifically that was targeted.
** Shotguns are were also considered to be this these days by some of the players, at a point, especially in the Gunmaster class.when used by Gunmasters.



* MemeticMutation: "Segac," a DetractorNickname for Sega due to their lackluster management of the game outside of Japan. Originating from the [[BlackMarket Kubara weapons]] that are said to be just as good as their more-legit counterpart. [[InformedAbility Allegedly.]] (Though they certainly are better in Portable 2.)

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* MemeticMutation: "Segac," a DetractorNickname derisive FanNickname for Sega due to their lackluster management of the game outside of Japan. Originating from The meme was inspired by the [[BlackMarket Kubara weapons]] that are said to be just as good effective as their more-legit counterpart.legitimate counterparts. [[InformedAbility Allegedly.]] (Though they certainly are better in Portable 2.)]]



* StopHavingFunGuys: You don't have to do much to get booted from a party. Especially when you're at the end boxes in certain missions.
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* StopHavingFunGuys: You don't didn't have to do much to get booted from a party. Especially when you're party, especially at the end boxes in certain missions.
%%* * ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna.Maggahna is quite the LightningBruiser. It has plenty of powerful attacks, it moves around a lot (and ''loves'' to spam its teleport,) it can stop damage with a shield, and breaking its bottom part makes it even harder for melee characters to damage it.


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* TierInducedScrappy: Humans received some flak for [[MasterOfNone not being as specialized as the other races]]. For melee and gun-using classes, they were outclassed by Beasts and [=CASTs=] (especially since they lacked SUV Weapons/Nanoblasts.) For [=TECHNIC=]-using classes, Newmans had better stats suited for those classes.
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* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic [=CASTs=], designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma. [[FridgeBrilliance Perhaps]] the ones who greenlighted Project Tenma are the same ones who deemed Vivienne (who was an unknowing ''and'' unwilling Illuminus spy) and the player character (For going after her) traitors.]]

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* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic [=CASTs=], designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma.]]
** [[spoiler:[[FridgeBrilliance Perhaps]] the ones who greenlighted Project Tenma are the same ones who deemed Vivienne (who was an unknowing ''and'' unwilling Illuminus spy)and the player character (For going after her) traitors.]]
*** What's even worse/funnier is that one of the requirements to get the True ending is to indulge and be nice to her. Your actually forced into giving her the CanonSue status.

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* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic [=CASTs=], designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma.]]
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[[FridgeBrilliance Perhaps]] the ones who greenlighted Project Tenma are the same ones who deemed Vivienne (who was an unknowing ''and'' unwilling Illuminus spy)and spy) and the player character (For going after her) traitors.]]
*** What's even worse/funnier is that one of the requirements to get the True ending is to indulge and be nice to her. Your actually forced into giving her the CanonSue status.
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*** What's even worse/funnier is that one of the requirements to get the True ending is to indulge and be nice to her. Your actually forced into giving her the CanonSue status.

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* MemeticMutation: "Segac," a DetractorNickname for Sega due to their lackluster management of the game outside of Japan. Originating from the [[BlackMarket Kubara weapons]] that are said to be just as good as their more-legit counterpart. [[InformedAbility Allegedly.]]
** They certainly are better in Portable 2

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* MemeticMutation: "Segac," a DetractorNickname for Sega due to their lackluster management of the game outside of Japan. Originating from the [[BlackMarket Kubara weapons]] that are said to be just as good as their more-legit counterpart. [[InformedAbility Allegedly.]]
** They
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* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna.

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* %%* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna.Maggahna.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A minor example. Importing a character from ''Phantasy Star Portable'' to its sequel [[spoiler:results in ''no'' significant storyline differences. Even characters whom you've met before in the first game don't seem to recognize you, and the only one that does is Vivienne, who's an ''optional'' partner in ''[=PSP2=]'' (unlike, say, Tonnio and Liina, both of whom are met at the start of Chapter ''2'' and aren't optional), and even then that only amounts to a couple of changes to her dialogue upon meeting you. The fact that there isn't even an attempt at an explanation for it is also bothersome. As such, there are players that feel that SEGA dropped the ball in this regard, but at least importing still nets you a unique title and some neat items.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Light Master Dohgi (See MoralEventHorizon).
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** The Illuminus become this after unleashing a modified SEED-Virus on Moatoob which turns thousands of people (most of them Beasts) into SEED forms--about 300 of which [[ShootTheDog you personally kill]]--then goes on to infect [=CASTs=] across Gurhal, leading to Episode 2's DownerEnding.
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* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna.

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* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna.Maggahna.
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* BlackHoleSue: Laia in ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. Though she's actually a well-rounded character, the fact remains that the Story Mode of ''Ambition'' is all about her. Your character is nothing more than a background extra.
** Subverted in Episode 3. While a good amount of focus is placed on Lumia becoming a full-fledged Guardian, your character is no longer just a background extra. The player character can now make decisions that can impact the story and which ending you receive, leading up to [[spoiler:becoming the new commander of the GUARDIANS Mobile Defense Force. ...Too bad it's implied that you stepped down and gave the position to Orson.]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: No one seems to mind that you can find random traveling cake shops, Pizza Huts and [= KFCs =] in dungeons ranging from VR simulations to military complexes. Or ''Portable 2's'' random BonusBoss subspace dragon at the end of some dungeons. Or when [[GuestStarPartyMember Colonel Sanders]] joins as a party member. Gurhal is a strange place.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: No one seems to mind that you can find random traveling cake shops, Pizza Huts and [= KFCs =] in dungeons ranging from VR simulations to military complexes. Or ''Portable 2's'' random BonusBoss subspace dragon at the end of some dungeons. Or when [[ProductPlacement Colonel Sanders]] [[GuestStarPartyMember Colonel Sanders]] joins as a party member.member]]. Gurhal is a strange place.
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**They certainly are better in Portable 2
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Love It Or Hate It is now In-Universe only.


* EarWorm: The sub-series' theme tune, ''Save This World'', in its multiple incarnations. [[LoveItOrHateIt People either adore it or find it ear-splittingly grating,]] especially the original version from ''Universe.''

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* EarWorm: The sub-series' theme tune, ''Save This World'', in its multiple incarnations. [[LoveItOrHateIt People either adore it or find it ear-splittingly grating,]] grating, especially the original version from ''Universe.''
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* AbridgedArenaArray: Throughout ''PSU's'' run, players have sought out the Free Missions with the most efficient EXP gain. The lobbies for those missions would be accordingly packed full as well. In Vanilla PSU, this first happened to "Plains Overlord," then to "The Mad Beasts," then to "Endrum Remnants." When ''[=AotI=]'' was released, this honor went to "White Beast," and remained so whenever an event wasn't going on--to the point that ''PSU'' itself was derisively nicknamed "White Beast Universe" as no one seemed interested in running any of the other missions in the game.
** This tendency prompted Sega to introduce the "GUARDIANS Boost Road," encouraging players to run chains of other missions for greater gains compared to spamming a single mission over and over.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: No one seems to mind that you can find random traveling cake shops, Pizza Huts and [= KFCs =] in dungeons ranging from VR simulations to military complexes. Or ''Portable 2's'' random BonusBoss subspace dragon at the end of some dungeons. Or when [[GuestStarPartyMember Colonel Sanders]] joins as a party member. Gurhal is a strange place.

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* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna
* UnpleasableFanbase: Comes in several flavors--
** [[ItsEasySoItSucks It's Easy, So It Sucks]]: Heard from [[StopHavingFunGuys certain sections of the player base]]. Argue the point with them, and you'll get branded as a terrible player and/or a Sega fanboy.
** [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: Standard MMORPG protocol demands complaints like these any time a gameplay mechanic is changed. One of the noisier outcries involved an early change to mission ranking mechanics so that merely dying did not penalize the team. Goes hand in hand with the previous "ItSucks."
*** Also heard from people who expected a direct sequel to PSO with the exact same gameplay.
*** ''Also'' heard in reference to PSU's Numans, especially by fans of the Tetralogy, who see them as little more than [[OurElvesAreBetter Space Elves]] despite their obvious {{Wutai}}ness and role as a ShoutOut to the Tetralogy Dezorians.
**** The very inclusion of a [[{{Wutai}} Wutai Planet]] in PSU also sets these same people off--but Sega was subtly changing the roles of Numans and adding {{Wutai}} elements to the franchise well beforehand.
** [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks It's The Same, Now It Sucks]]: Heard from the ''other'' people who expected something new that did ''not'' resemble PSO in story/gameplay/graphics.

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* ThatOneBoss: Magas Maggahna
* UnpleasableFanbase: Comes in several flavors--
** [[ItsEasySoItSucks It's Easy, So It Sucks]]: Heard from [[StopHavingFunGuys certain sections of the player base]]. Argue the point with them, and you'll get branded as a terrible player and/or a Sega fanboy.
** [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: Standard MMORPG protocol demands complaints like these any time a gameplay mechanic is changed. One of the noisier outcries involved an early change to mission ranking mechanics so that merely dying did not penalize the team. Goes hand in hand with the previous "ItSucks."
*** Also heard from people who expected a direct sequel to PSO with the exact same gameplay.
*** ''Also'' heard in reference to PSU's Numans, especially by fans of the Tetralogy, who see them as little more than [[OurElvesAreBetter Space Elves]] despite their obvious {{Wutai}}ness and role as a ShoutOut to the Tetralogy Dezorians.
**** The very inclusion of a [[{{Wutai}} Wutai Planet]] in PSU also sets these same people off--but Sega was subtly changing the roles of Numans and adding {{Wutai}} elements to the franchise well beforehand.
** [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks It's The Same, Now It Sucks]]: Heard from the ''other'' people who expected something new that did ''not'' resemble PSO in story/gameplay/graphics.
Maggahna.
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* IKnewIt: Many theorized that [[spoiler:Hyuga has become a Dewman,]] which is confirmed in [=PSP2i=].
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* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic CASTs, designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma.]]

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* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic CASTs, [=CASTs=], designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma.]]
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** [[spoiler:[[FridgeBrilliance Perhaps]] the ones who greenlighted Project Tenma are the same ones who deemed Vivienne (who was an unknowing ''and'' unwilling Illuminus spy)and the player character (For going after her) traitors.]]
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* BlackHoleSue: Laia in ''Ambition of the Illuminus''. Though she's actually a well-rounded character, the fact remains that the Story Mode of ''Ambition'' is all about her. Your character is nothing more than a background extra.
** Subverted in Episode 3. While a good amount of focus is placed on Lumia becoming a full-fledged Guardian, your character is no longer just a background extra. The player character can now make decisions that can impact the story and which ending you receive, leading up to [[spoiler:becoming the new commander of the GUARDIANS Mobile Defense Force. ...Too bad it's implied that you stepped down and gave the position to Orson.]]
* CanonSue: Emilia from Phantasy Star Portable 2. At first she's just a lazy girl with a spirit trapped inside her. As you learn more about her, however, you find out that she's [[spoiler:a genius practically from birth, crucial to a massive supercomputer, can make calculations that strain even the robotic CASTs, designed Lou's parts as scribbled notes while she was bored, and otherwise is pretty unstoppable at anything that requires her mind, all as a teenager]]. She even has [[spoiler:a tragic backstory, that requires other characters acting out of character to even happen. Neither Obel nor Laia seem like the types to greenlight Project Tenma.]]


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* EarWorm: The sub-series' theme tune, ''Save This World'', in its multiple incarnations. [[LoveItOrHateIt People either adore it or find it ear-splittingly grating,]] especially the original version from ''Universe.''
* FanNickname: Anga Jabroken, in reference to Anga Jabroga's gamebreaking status.
** Also Lolitechers, who are Newman females Techers who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin ...yeah.]]


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* MemeticMutation: "Segac," a DetractorNickname for Sega due to their lackluster management of the game outside of Japan. Originating from the [[BlackMarket Kubara weapons]] that are said to be just as good as their more-legit counterpart. [[InformedAbility Allegedly.]]

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