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* OlderThanTheyThink: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions, so much so that many modern readers have thought that Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she says Catherine has read. As it turns out, they're all real.
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* WeirdAlEffect: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions, so much so that many modern readers have thought that Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she says Catherine has read. As it turns out, they're all real.
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* NightmareFuel: Catherine's daydreams in the ITV version are generally unnerving due to the muted lighting and creepy music, but special mention goes to the last one, where Catherine imagines James LockedInTheDungeon and finds Isabella being tortured on a rack by Captain Tilney, who [[PsychoticSmirk smirks at her]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Henry a good-humoured guy with his feet on the ground or is he a SmugSnake that's constantly condescending to Catherine?
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* ValuesResonance: Isabella would probably be great friends with [[Film/MeanGirls Regina George]].
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* MisaimedFandom: Isabella's comments about her UndyingLoyalty for her friends occasionally show up online as "inspiration quotes". The problem is that these quotes, in context, are just set-ups for HypocriticalHumour punchlines -- they're not meant to be taken seriously. In fact, Catherine actually learns the importance of questioning your friends and sticking to your own morals.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/CareyMulligan plays Isabella Thorpe in the 2007 version.
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** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company. There's a reason it's written as "d--".
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** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder worse to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company. There's a reason it's written as "d--".
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"Incredibly abusive" is quiiiiiiiiiiite an exaggeration.
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** John and Isabella ''physically restrain'' Catherine when she, angered that John dared to speak on her behalf and cancel her plans with Eleanor, wants to go and tell her friend what really happened. While they have her by the arms, her brother James berates her for not wanting to do as they wish. In a modern light, this comes across as incredibly abusive.
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** John and Isabella ''physically restrain'' physically restrain Catherine when she, angered that John dared to speak on her behalf and cancel her plans with Eleanor, wants to go and tell her friend what really happened. While they have her by the arms, her brother James berates her for not wanting to do as they wish. In a modern light, this comes across as incredibly abusive.crosses the line.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The heroine of the definitive Gothic romance parody is named ''[[Literature/WutheringHeights Catherine]]''!
** This is '''not''' the case for anyone familiar with or knowledgable about the Gothic genre: ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' is ''not'' the type of Gothic novel in question (its ilk had yet to be written at the time), while the pure or traditional Gothic novel is what ''Northanger Abbey'' is parodying (e.g. ''Literature/TheMonk'' or ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'')
* LesYay: Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now. Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together... That is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was an indicator of friendship, not necessarily a romantic relationship.
* ValuesDissonance: John Thorpe describes someone as being "rich as a Jew."
** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier in the story]].
** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company. (There's a reason it's written as "d--".)
** The SettingUpdate version from The Austen Project doesn't change this at all, with the result that John comes off much worse much more quickly.
** In a different scene, John and Isabella ''physically restrain'' Catherine when she, angered that John dared to speak on her behalf and cancel her plans with Eleanor, wants to go and tell her friend what really happened. While they have her by the arms, her brother James berates her for not wanting to do as they wish. In a modern light, this comes across as incredibly abusive.
** This is '''not''' the case for anyone familiar with or knowledgable about the Gothic genre: ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' is ''not'' the type of Gothic novel in question (its ilk had yet to be written at the time), while the pure or traditional Gothic novel is what ''Northanger Abbey'' is parodying (e.g. ''Literature/TheMonk'' or ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'')
* LesYay: Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now. Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together... That is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was an indicator of friendship, not necessarily a romantic relationship.
* ValuesDissonance: John Thorpe describes someone as being "rich as a Jew."
** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier in the story]].
** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company. (There's a reason it's written as "d--".)
** The SettingUpdate version from The Austen Project doesn't change this at all, with the result that John comes off much worse much more quickly.
** In a different scene, John and Isabella ''physically restrain'' Catherine when she, angered that John dared to speak on her behalf and cancel her plans with Eleanor, wants to go and tell her friend what really happened. While they have her by the arms, her brother James berates her for not wanting to do as they wish. In a modern light, this comes across as incredibly abusive.
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** This is '''not''' the case for anyone familiar with or knowledgable about the Gothic genre: ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' is ''not'' the type of Gothic novel in question (its ilk had yet to be written at the time), while the pure or traditional Gothic novel is what ''Northanger Abbey'' is parodying (e.g. ''Literature/TheMonk'' or ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'')
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** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company.
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** In a different scene,
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** This is '''not''' the case for anyone familiar with or knowledgable about the Gothic genre: ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' is ''not'' the type of Gothic novel in question (its ilk had yet to be written at the time), while the pure or traditional Gothic novel is what ''Northanger Abbey'' is parodying (e.g. ''Literature/TheMonk'' or ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'')
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** In addition, John would have come off as ''much'' ruder to contemporary readers than to modern ones. He seems annoying and overbearing, but to Regency readers he would have come off as ''quite'' over-familiar and often extremely rude, particularly for repeatedly swearing in mixed-gender company. (There's a reason it's written as "d--".)
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Catherine is described as "almost pretty" and Tilney as "if not quite handsome ... very near it." In the 2007 ITV adaptation they are played by Creator/FelicityJones and J.J. Feild, respectively.
* DoubleEntendre:
--> '''General Tilney''' (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
--> '''Henry''': Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
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--> '''General Tilney''' (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
--> '''Henry''': Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
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* LesYay: Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now. Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together... That is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
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* LesYay: Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now. Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together... That is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture an indicator of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.friendship, not necessarily a romantic relationship.
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*** General Tilney (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
*** Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
*** Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
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** General Tilney (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
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** General Tilney (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
** General Tilney (who has been aggressively pushing Catherine and Henry together throughout the entire novel, as he believes she is an heiress, on the morning of his departure from Northanger): I trust you will be able to entertain our guest ''properly'' while I am gone, Henry?
Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, sir. *smirks at Catherine*
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Catherine is described as "almost pretty" and Tilney as "if not quite handsome ... very near it." In the ITV adaptation they are played by Creator/FelicityJones and J.J. Feild, respectively.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Catherine is described as "almost pretty" and Tilney as "if not quite handsome ... very near it." In the 2007 ITV adaptation they are played by Creator/FelicityJones and J.J. Feild, respectively.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Catherine is described as "almost pretty" and Tilney as "if not quite handsome ... very near it." They are played by Creator/FelicityJones and J.J. Feild, respectively.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Catherine is described as "almost pretty" and Tilney as "if not quite handsome ... very near it." They In the ITV adaptation they are played by Creator/FelicityJones and J.J. Feild, respectively.
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** In a different scene, John and Isabella ''physically restrain'' Catherine when she, angered that John dared to speak on her behalf and cancel her plans with Eleanor, wants to go and tell her friend what really happened. While they have her by the arms, her brother James berates her for not wanting to do as they wish. In a modern light, this comes across as incredibly abusive.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The heroine of the definitive Gothic romance parody is named [[Literature/WutheringHeights CATHERINE]]!
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* HilariousInHindsight: The heroine of the definitive Gothic romance parody is named [[Literature/WutheringHeights CATHERINE]]!''[[Literature/WutheringHeights Catherine]]''!
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** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier on]].
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** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier on]].in the story]].
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* WeirdAlEffect: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions. To the point that most readers thought Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she listed, turns out they're all real.
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* WeirdAlEffect: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions. To the point mentions, so much so that most many modern readers have thought that Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she listed, says Catherine has read. As it turns out out, they're all real.
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* UnfortunateImplications : In the 2007 telefilm, one meets a mild version.
-->'''Jane Austen:''' ''(narrating and making a description about Catherine)'' By the age of ''fifteen'', appearances had mended, and Catherine was in training to be a heroine. ''(the story continues and it is implied, when the girl gets a proposal by 20-something year-old Mr Tilney , to take place the same year).''
** However it is later precised that they find happiness in their marriage at the respective ages of 18 and 26, which means still that they were probably, at the time of the meeting, 15/16 and 23/24 years old.
** (In the original book, she's beginning to blossom at 15, but is 17 by the time she goes to Bath).
-->'''Jane Austen:''' ''(narrating and making a description about Catherine)'' By the age of ''fifteen'', appearances had mended, and Catherine was in training to be a heroine. ''(the story continues and it is implied, when the girl gets a proposal by 20-something year-old Mr Tilney , to take place the same year).''
** However it is later precised that they find happiness in their marriage at the respective ages of 18 and 26, which means still that they were probably, at the time of the meeting, 15/16 and 23/24 years old.
** (In the original book, she's beginning to blossom at 15, but is 17 by the time she goes to Bath).
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** The SettingUpdate version from The Austen Project doesn't change this at all, with the result that John comes off much worse much more quickly.
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** However it is later precised that they find happiness in their marriage at the respective ages of 18 and 26, which means still that they were probably, at the time of the meeting, 15/16 and 23/24 years old.
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** (In the original book, she's beginning to blossom at 15, but is 17 by the time she goes to Bath).
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** Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now.
** Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together...
** That last is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
** Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now.
** Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together...
** That last is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
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**LesYay: Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now.
**now. Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together...
**together... That last is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
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-->'''Jane Austen''' Austen:''' ''(narrating and making a description about Catherine)'' : By the age of ''fifteen'', appearances had mended, and Catherine was in training to be an heroine a heroine. ''(the story continues and it is implied, when the girl gets a proposal by 20-something year-old Mr Tilney , to take place ''the the same year''). year).''
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* WeirdAlEffect: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions.
** To the point that most readers thought Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she listed, turns out they're all real.
** To the point that most readers thought Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she listed, turns out they're all real.
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* WeirdAlEffect: This is much more studied these days than the literature it mentions.
**mentions. To the point that most readers thought Jane Austen invented most of the Gothic titles she listed, turns out they're all real.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Catherine's encounter with the cabinet.
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* ValuesDissonance: John Thorpe describes someone as being "rich as a Jew."
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* ValuesDissonance: John Thorpe describes someone as being "rich as a Jew.""
** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier on]].
** This is ValuesDissonance from John Thorpe, but not from Jane Austen. [[FairForItsDay She criticizes indirectly his xenophobia earlier on]].
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* UnfortunateImplications : In the 2007 telefilm, one meets a mild version.
-->'''Jane Austen''' ''(narrating and making a description about Catherine)'' : By the age of ''fifteen'', appearances had mended, and Catherine was in training to be an heroine ''(the story continues and it is implied, when the girl gets a proposal by 20-something year-old Mr Tilney , to take place ''the same year''). ''
** However it is later precised that they find happiness in their marriage at the respective ages of 18 and 26, which means still that they were probably, at the time of the meeting, 15/16 and 23/24 years old.
-->'''Jane Austen''' ''(narrating and making a description about Catherine)'' : By the age of ''fifteen'', appearances had mended, and Catherine was in training to be an heroine ''(the story continues and it is implied, when the girl gets a proposal by 20-something year-old Mr Tilney , to take place ''the same year''). ''
** However it is later precised that they find happiness in their marriage at the respective ages of 18 and 26, which means still that they were probably, at the time of the meeting, 15/16 and 23/24 years old.
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* LesYay:
** Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now.
** Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together...
**That last is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
** Isabella's undisguised jealousy of Catherine's budding friendship with Eleanor Tilney can easily be interpreted this way now.
** Isabella's friendship with Catherine from the ''very beginning'' had overtones of this, particularly when Austen mentions how they always "joined arms" when they were together...
**That last is only a modern construction, though. In the context of the culture, women holding hands (or joining arms) was a perfectly natural gesture of friendship which had nothing to do with their sexual orientation.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The heroine of the definitive Gothic romance parody is named [[WutheringHeights [[Literature/WutheringHeights CATHERINE]]!