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* ScrappyMechanic: The game railroads you into using the Operator and much more rarely M4 Custom after certain cutscenes. While they are decent weapons with plentiful ammo, it's pretty jarring if you want to experiment with other pistols and assault rifles; you're basically forced to limit yourself from five active inventory slots to three plus the Operator and M4, because otherwise whichever gun you want to use will be forcibly replaced with the Operator during the transition from cutscene to gameplay, thus forcing you to ruin the cool factor of the transition by going back into the inventory and re-equipping what you wanted.
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** In theory, the psyche (stress) gauge should have been a great addition to the franchise, building off how [=MGS3=] handled the stamina gauge. In practice, however, the gauge was criticized for depleting (psyche) and increasing (stress) too quickly. Minor comments ''in a cutscene'', like a side character making a light jab at Snake's age or health, would cause the gauge to lower by one full quarter, making it come across as if Snake was particularly thin-skinned or couldn't handle jokes (not the best perception for a tactical agent with thirty years' experience involved in an operation spanning multiple countries). The rationalization for the gauge (it promotes regeneration of Snake's health) seems particularly incongruous with its stated function in most cutscenes, where unless you mash X immediately after the forced drain or are lucky to have it happen in a cutscene where you later get a secret L1 view of [[MaleGaze a woman's breasts]], Snake will often begin at a disadvantage due to an ill-timed comment.
** The game railroads you into using the Operator and much more rarely M4 Custom after certain cutscenes. While they are decent weapons with plentiful ammo, it's pretty jarring if you want to experiment with other pistols and assault rifles; you're basically forced to limit yourself from five active inventory slots to three plus the Operator and M4, because otherwise whichever gun you want to use will be forcibly replaced with the Operator during the transition from cutscene to gameplay, thus forcing you to ruin the cool factor of the transition by going back into the inventory and re-equipping what you wanted.
** In theory, the psyche (stress) gauge should have been a great addition to the franchise, building off how [=MGS3=] handled the stamina gauge. In practice, however, the gauge was criticized for depleting (psyche) and increasing (stress) too quickly. Minor comments ''in a cutscene'', like a side character making a light jab at Snake's age or health, would cause the gauge to lower by one full quarter, making it come across as if Snake was particularly thin-skinned or couldn't handle jokes (not the best perception for a tactical agent with thirty years' experience involved in an operation spanning multiple countries). The rationalization for the gauge (it promotes regeneration of Snake's health) seems particularly incongruous with its stated function in most cutscenes, where unless you mash X immediately after the forced drain or are lucky to have it happen in a cutscene where you later get a secret L1 view of [[MaleGaze a woman's breasts]], Snake will often begin at a disadvantage due to an ill-timed comment.
** The game railroads you into using the Operator and much more rarely M4 Custom after certain cutscenes. While they are decent weapons with plentiful ammo, it's pretty jarring if you want to experiment with other pistols and assault rifles; you're basically forced to limit yourself from five active inventory slots to three plus the Operator and M4, because otherwise whichever gun you want to use will be forcibly replaced with the Operator during the transition from cutscene to gameplay, thus forcing you to ruin the cool factor of the transition by going back into the inventory and re-equipping what you wanted.
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** [[spoiler:Big Boss: Not dead, but instead induced into an artificial locked-in state so that he can be used as the key to the world's EvilOverlord computer, one can't help but feel sorry for the guy. Until after the surprise ending, when it turns out it was Solidus Snake that suffered the sad fate of being thrown into a fire.]]
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** [[spoiler:Big Boss: Not dead, but instead induced into an artificial locked-in state so that he can be used as the key to the world's EvilOverlord computer, one can't help but feel sorry for the guy. Until after the surprise ending, when it turns out it was Solidus Snake that suffered the sad fate of being thrown into a fire.]]
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* ContinuityLockOut: Anyone jumping right to this game without playing the previous ones will have absolutely no idea what's going on, with the game constantly introducing characters and concepts whose true significance won't be clear at all without prior knowledge of the series, right from the get-go. This is presumably why the ''[[AllThereInTheManual Metal Gear Solid 4 Database]]'' was released, so that series newcomers could consult the ''Database'' to catch up on the previous titles.
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* ContinuityLockOut: Anyone jumping right to ContinuityLockout: If this game without playing is your first ''Metal Gear'' game, you ''will not'' understand anything that's happening or why. If you've played ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater Metal Gear Solid 3]]'', at least ''seen'' some of the major scenes of ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]'' (at least one with each character), and been sprinkled with bits of info from a bunch of other scattered sources, [[note]]you ''might'' be able to make just enough correct assumptions and ignore ''just'' enough off-hand remarks referencing stuff from the previous ones will have absolutely no idea games that you don't know about that[[/note]] the ''barest possible minimum'' of what's going on, with the game constantly introducing characters and concepts whose true significance won't on may be clear at all without prior in your poor, befuddled grasp. ''[[EmphasizeEverything Maybe]]''. Simply put, your knowledge of needs to be more advanced than "Solid Snake fights giant robots with a cardboard box," and sometimes even more than the series, right from the get-go. essential "[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Nanomachines, son.]]" This is presumably why the ''[[AllThereInTheManual Metal Gear Solid 4 Database]]'' was released, so that series newcomers could consult the ''Database'' to catch up on the previous titles.titles.
** This applies to gameplay as well. The game literally drops you in the deep end and if you aren't intimately familiar with the franchise's stealth-play nature, you'll find it very hard to survive more than a few minutes once the game proper begins. And the fact the game rewards you for not using lethal force is not made evident to newbies until well into the first, perhaps even as far as into the second act (the fact non-lethal weaponry and ammo, beyond the Mk. II tranquilizer pistol you're given early on - which, for the record, Snake glosses over entirely in favor of the traditionally lethal Operator - is not clearly provided doesn't help).
** The start of Act IV ([[spoiler:which begins with a simulation of one of the beginning areas from the first ''Metal Gear Solid'']]) is likewise a treasure trove of confusion, especially since [[DamnYouMuscleMemory the controls are changed to how they were in that game]] - even people who are familiar with that game, but only through its [=GameCube=] remake, are in for a spot of hell on that one.
** This applies to gameplay as well. The game literally drops you in the deep end and if you aren't intimately familiar with the franchise's stealth-play nature, you'll find it very hard to survive more than a few minutes once the game proper begins. And the fact the game rewards you for not using lethal force is not made evident to newbies until well into the first, perhaps even as far as into the second act (the fact non-lethal weaponry and ammo, beyond the Mk. II tranquilizer pistol you're given early on - which, for the record, Snake glosses over entirely in favor of the traditionally lethal Operator - is not clearly provided doesn't help).
** The start of Act IV ([[spoiler:which begins with a simulation of one of the beginning areas from the first ''Metal Gear Solid'']]) is likewise a treasure trove of confusion, especially since [[DamnYouMuscleMemory the controls are changed to how they were in that game]] - even people who are familiar with that game, but only through its [=GameCube=] remake, are in for a spot of hell on that one.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Two. The main one was Creator/HideoKojima's attempt to turn the much-ridiculed "magic hand" plotline into something remotely sensible, but a lesser one was a bone of contention from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'': it was believed by ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]''[='=]s indirect mention of Meryl Silverburgh that Snake had cracked under Ocelot's torture, the "Otacon" ending was canon and Meryl was dead, which fans thought hugely out of character for Snake.[[note]]Although it should be noted that the in-game book ''In the Darkness of Shadow Moses: The Unofficial Truth'' mentioned that Meryl survived the events of Shadow Moses, and the two references to the book in the game itself implies that it was actually the Meryl ending that was canon, as well as the nod to the Infinity Bandana.[[/note]]
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** The Stun Knife, believe it or not, is based a real weapon, [[http://www.shocknife.com/ the Shocknife]]. Though the real shocknife is solely a training weapon - there's no sharp edge.
** Those helicopters that were seen in fixed-wing mode in Act 1's cutscenes and in helicopter mode during gameplay. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-50_Dragonfly Those were actually real helicopters]], though in reality there were only two prototypes, the project being cancelled in 2006 since neither of them could successfully transition to forward flying.
** The Stun Knife, believe it or not, is based a real weapon, [[http://www.shocknife.com/ the Shocknife]]. Though the real shocknife is solely a training weapon - there's no sharp edge.
** Those helicopters that were seen in fixed-wing mode in Act 1's cutscenes and in helicopter mode during gameplay. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-50_Dragonfly Those were actually real helicopters]], though in reality there were only two prototypes, the project being cancelled in 2006 since neither of them could successfully transition to forward flying.
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* ThatOneAchievement: "Sounds of the Battlefield" requires you to get every song in the game for your iPod. The "Snake Eater" song requires you to get all 40 Emblems in the game, which range from the difficult ("Big Boss" requires that you beat the game on [[HarderThanHard The Boss Extreme]] difficulty [[NoDamageRun without dying]], getting caught, [[PacifistRun killing anyone]], and without using recovery and special items, [[{{Speedrun}} all in under 5 hours]], making it That One Achievement within That One Achievement), to the [[ViolationOfCommonSense unintuitive]] ("Puma" asks you to get ''more'' than 75 alerts, 250 kills, and 25 continues), to the weird ("Gecko" requires you to press against walls for an hour total, "Tortoise" wants an hour inside the drum and/or cardboard box, and "Giant Panda" requires you to spend 30 or more hours in-game before you complete it).
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* ThatOneAchievement: "Sounds of the Battlefield" requires you to get every song in the game for your iPod. The "Snake Eater" song requires you to get all 40 Emblems in the game, which range from the difficult ("Big Boss" requires that you beat the game on [[HarderThanHard The Boss Extreme]] difficulty [[NoDamageRun without dying]], getting caught, [[PacifistRun killing anyone]], and without using recovery and special items, [[{{Speedrun}} all in under 5 hours]], hours, making it That One Achievement within That One Achievement), to the [[ViolationOfCommonSense unintuitive]] ("Puma" asks you to get ''more'' than 75 alerts, 250 kills, and 25 continues), to the weird ("Gecko" requires you to press against walls for an hour total, "Tortoise" wants an hour inside the drum and/or cardboard box, and "Giant Panda" requires you to spend 30 or more hours in-game before you complete it).
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* MagnificentBastard: Do you even need to ask? Ocelot was already a MagnificentBastard in ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 2|SonsOfLiberty}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}'' but with this game, he became one of the most magnificent bastards in all of fiction.
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Misuse: The first one makes sense in context, the second one is not surreal, and the third one is plot-relevant.
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** [[spoiler:Shortly before you revisit Shadow Moses, Snake has a dream where he's on Shadow Moses in his youth, and you have to play a brief scene from ''Metal Gear Solid''. Besides earning [=FaceCamo=] that makes Snake look like he did in the first game, there's no point to this dream]].
** [[spoiler:When ''Outer Haven'' first rises from the ocean, we get a shot of "Mount Snakemore": a reproduction of Mount Rushmore built into ''Haven''[='=]s hull, with the likenesses of Big Boss and his clones in place of Washington and company.]] It appears on-screen for all of three seconds, after which it is never seen or mentioned again.
** In the final act, [[spoiler:Raiden suddenly appears just in time to save Snake...with the new ability to conduct electricity. He proceeds to take care of the FROGS by electrocuting them. This fit his name well, but how and why it happened are never explained.]]
** [[spoiler:Shortly before you revisit Shadow Moses, Snake has a dream where he's on Shadow Moses in his youth, and you have to play a brief scene from ''Metal Gear Solid''. Besides earning [=FaceCamo=] that makes Snake look like he did in the first game, there's no point to this dream]].
** [[spoiler:When ''Outer Haven'' first rises from the ocean, we get a shot of "Mount Snakemore": a reproduction of Mount Rushmore built into ''Haven''[='=]s hull, with the likenesses of Big Boss and his clones in place of Washington and company.]] It appears on-screen for all of three seconds, after which it is never seen or mentioned again.
** In the final act, [[spoiler:Raiden suddenly appears just in time to save Snake...with the new ability to conduct electricity. He proceeds to take care of the FROGS by electrocuting them. This fit his name well, but how and why it happened are never explained.]]
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Deleting shoehorned examples. The one about the Gekkos is just complaining about the cutscene that is shown at the same time as the battle. The one about Octopus is a ZCE, and frankly I've never seen any significant complaints about this boss fight. Wolf is fought in the middle of a blizzard that greatly aids Snake's camouflage, so it isn't really that hard to find a safe spot to recover (and the entry itself points out that stamina loss is only an issue if the player is aiming for That One Achievement).
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** Vamp. If you go into the battle without knowing how to properly execute a CQC hold then you can be totally screwed, as failing to execute the hold exactly right at a critical moment of the battle will result in Vamp just knocking you flying, regenerating all his health and continuing the battle. Ditto if you don't realize that the syringe is an equippable combat item that can be used on enemies in CQC.
** The Suicide Gekkos immediately afterwards. How can you even pay attention to them when there's a ninja knife fight taking up the right half of the screen?[[note]]The answer: [[LetsPlay/ChipCheezum You record it and watch it while commentating afterwards.]][[/note]]
** The battle against Laughing Octopus is also by far the most difficult fight of the Beauty and the Beast Unit.
** Crying Wolf is a close second due to the fact that there are very few places you can hide in the arena to lower your stress, making you have to waste ration after noodle after Regain™ to keep your stamina up if you don't know about them. Especially troublesome for emblem runs that don't allow you to use healing items or waste time.
** Vamp. If you go into the battle without knowing how to properly execute a CQC hold then you can be totally screwed, as failing to execute the hold exactly right at a critical moment of the battle will result in Vamp just knocking you flying, regenerating all his health and continuing the battle. Ditto if you don't realize that the syringe is an equippable combat item that can be used on enemies in CQC.
** The Suicide Gekkos immediately afterwards. How can you even pay attention to them when there's a ninja knife fight taking up the right half of the screen?[[note]]The answer: [[LetsPlay/ChipCheezum You record it and watch it while commentating afterwards.]][[/note]]
** The battle against Laughing Octopus is also by far the most difficult fight of the Beauty and the Beast Unit.
** Crying Wolf is a close second due to the fact that there are very few places you can hide in the arena to lower your stress, making you have to waste ration after noodle after Regain™ to keep your stamina up if you don't know about them. Especially troublesome for emblem runs that don't allow you to use healing items or waste time.
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**ThatOneBoss: Vamp. If you go into the battle without knowing how to properly execute a CQC hold then you can be totally screwed, as failing to execute the hold exactly right at a critical moment of the battle will result in Vamp just knocking you flying, regenerating all his health and continuing the battle. Ditto if you don't realize that the syringe is an equippable combat item that can be used on enemies in CQC.
** The Suicide Gekkos immediately afterwards. How can you even pay attention to them when there's a ninja knife fight taking up the right half of the screen?[[note]]The answer: [[LetsPlay/ChipCheezum You record it and watch it while commentating afterwards.]][[/note]]
** The battle against Laughing Octopus is also by far the most difficult fight of the Beauty and the Beast Unit.
** Crying Wolf is a close second due to the fact that there are very few places you can hide in the arena to lower your stress, making you have to waste ration after noodle after Regain™ to keep your stamina up if you don't know about them. Especially troublesome for emblem runs that don't allow you to use healing items or waste time.CQC.
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** The Suicide Gekkos immediately afterwards. How can you even pay attention to them when there's a ninja knife fight taking up the right half of the screen?[[note]]The answer: [[LetsPlay/ChipCheezum You record it and watch it while commentating afterwards.]][[/note]]
** The battle against Laughing Octopus is also by far the most difficult fight of the Beauty and the Beast Unit.
** Crying Wolf is a close second due to the fact that there are very few places you can hide in the arena to lower your stress, making you have to waste ration after noodle after Regain™ to keep your stamina up if you don't know about them. Especially troublesome for emblem runs that don't allow you to use healing items or waste time.
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* HoYay: Vamp and Raiden in Act 2. Who ''do'' they think they're kidding? Even Snake is [[ReactionShot distracted from taking aim with a sniper rifle]] once Vamp starts [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything licking Raiden's artificial (white) blood off of his knife]]. Did we also mention that the knife sheath is right on Vamp's crotch?
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** Multiple cutscenes in the first two acts have someone [[WorldBuilding explaining background information to Snake]], to which Snake [[SingleIssueWonk assumes the Patriots are somehow involved]] and the person talking to them shoots that theory down. Then come Act 3, and to a lesser extent Act 5, and [[spoiler:it turns out Snake was right ''every single time this happened''.]]
** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' -- namely, that he's attracted to her -- become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Unit; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armor, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:
--->'''Snake:''' What kind of weirdo puts his face on the bow of a ship, anyway?
** An episode of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' titled "Only Human" featured a character heavily implied to be Cobra Commander, of ''Franchise/GIJoe''. As that episode was set in the future, he went by a different name -- ''Old Snake''.
** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fan art]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release''.
** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
** The real-life Big Dog robots are basically real life Gekkos, something that thought to be absurd and surreal back in the day when the game was released. The only differences are that Big Dogs are the size of normal dogs, lacking organic parts, and are quadruped.
** Multiple cutscenes in the first two acts have someone [[WorldBuilding explaining background information to Snake]], to which Snake [[SingleIssueWonk assumes the Patriots are somehow involved]] and the person talking to them shoots that theory down. Then come Act 3, and to a lesser extent Act 5, and [[spoiler:it turns out Snake was right ''every single time this happened''.]]
** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' -- namely, that he's attracted to her -- become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Unit; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armor, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:
--->'''Snake:''' What kind of weirdo puts his face on the bow of a ship, anyway?
** An episode of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' titled "Only Human" featured a character heavily implied to be Cobra Commander, of ''Franchise/GIJoe''. As that episode was set in the future, he went by a different name -- ''Old Snake''.
** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fan art]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release''.
** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
** The real-life Big Dog robots are basically real life Gekkos, something that thought to be absurd and surreal back in the day when the game was released. The only differences are that Big Dogs are the size of normal dogs, lacking organic parts, and are quadruped.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** Multiple cutscenes in the first two acts have someone [[WorldBuilding explaining background information to Snake]], to which Snake [[SingleIssueWonk assumes the Patriots are somehow involved]] and the person talking to them shoots that theory down. Then come Act 3, and to a lesser extent Act 5, and [[spoiler:it turns out Snake was right ''every single time this happened''.]]
** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' -- namely, that he's attracted to her -- become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Unit; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armor, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:
--->'''Snake:''' What kind of weirdo puts his face on the bow of a ship, anyway?
** An episode of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' titled "Only Human" featured a character heavily implied to be Cobra Commander, of ''Franchise/GIJoe''. As that episode was set in the future, he went by a different name -- ''Old Snake''.
** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fan art]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release''.
** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
**HilariousInHindsight: The real-life Big Dog robots are basically real life Gekkos, something that thought to be absurd and surreal back in the day when the game was released. The only differences are that Big Dogs are the size of normal dogs, lacking organic parts, and are quadruped.quadruped.
%%ZCE** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
** Multiple cutscenes in the first two acts have someone [[WorldBuilding explaining background information to Snake]], to which Snake [[SingleIssueWonk assumes the Patriots are somehow involved]] and the person talking to them shoots that theory down. Then come Act 3, and to a lesser extent Act 5, and [[spoiler:it turns out Snake was right ''every single time this happened''.]]
** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' -- namely, that he's attracted to her -- become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Unit; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armor, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:
--->'''Snake:''' What kind of weirdo puts his face on the bow of a ship, anyway?
** An episode of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' titled "Only Human" featured a character heavily implied to be Cobra Commander, of ''Franchise/GIJoe''. As that episode was set in the future, he went by a different name -- ''Old Snake''.
** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fan art]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release''.
** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
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%%ZCE** In the ending, Drebin remarks that The Patriots played Snake and Otacon "like a violin." Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes Ground Zeroes]]''...
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** Snake finds out that the FOXDIE virus within him is mutating and would soon infect anyone he comes into contact with, turning him into a TyphoidMary. This strikes eerily similar to the COVID-19 virus where people could spread it even if they felt fine and the virus itself mutated several times.
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* NeverLiveItDown: The game's use of lengthy cutscenes. This is especially the case concerning Naked Sin, which contains the longest sequence of cutscenes.
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* EightPointEight: Combined with CriticalDissonance. The game received spectacular scores; however, a number of reviewers mentioned they ''would'' have given ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' a perfect score if not for the [[StoryToGameplayRatio long cutscenes]]. Of course, for most fans who have grown emotionally attached to the characters and followed the storyline throughout the series, long {{cutscene}}s aren't necessarily a bad thing. In retrospect, the dissonance now works in reverse; the game has received considerable HypeBacklash in the years following its release and now has a sizable hatedom, in contrast with its positive critical impressions.
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** Snake finds out that the FOXDIE virus within him is mutating and would soon infect anyone he comes into contact with, turning him into a TyphoidMary. This strikes eerily similar to the COVID-19 virus where people could spread it even if they felt fine and the virus itself mutated several times.
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** The battle between Metal Gear REX and RAY at the end of Act 4. It's literally two HumongousMecha pounding away at each other, and it's ''awesome''.
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** The battle between Metal Gear REX and RAY at the end of Act 4. It's literally two HumongousMecha pounding away at piloted by vengeful old men beating the absolutely shit out of each other, and it's ''awesome''.
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* UncannyValley: For non-humanoid machines, the Gekkos are just ''freaky.'' Their bizarrely organic legs are incredibly unsettling, and you'd never think a cow's mooing could sound so ''terrifying.''
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* FanNickname: "''Movie Gear Solid''", for its ''high'' StoryToGameplayRatio.
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* NarmCharm: Snake and Liquid Ocelot's final battle has several moments where both inject themselves with stimulants in order to keep fighting. This eventually culminates in them ''injecting each other at the same time.'' Dramatically overblown and ridiculously counter-productive in a fight? Maybe. Badass? Absolutely.
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** Metal Gear REX defeating Metal Gear RAY. By all logic, REX shouldn't even be functional, having had its sensors destroyed, being blown up, and being left exposed to arctic conditions for years. Yet it goes toe-to-toe with RAY, which was explicitly designed to destroy REX units. Not to mention the fact that Solid Snake had never piloted a Metal Gear before, while Liquid Ocelot had spent time in the VR and had been piloting a RAY for years. [[AwesomeBosses/MetalGear Few fans seem to mind this particular ass pull, though]].
** Depending on one's opinions, there's a lot of story moments, but one stands out due to how it plays out: [[spoiler:Raiden stopping ''Outer Haven'' from crushing Snake at Shadow Moses, only for himself to be crushed and seemingly killed. Despite all the posturing of the cutscenes involved that would signify death for pretty much any other character in the franchise, he's back and only missing his arms and put in extreme care afterwards, and even returns to kick ass with brand new lightning powers for the final act.]] It's almost like [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal Raiden was supposed to die]], only for the writers to revise and save him from the brink]].
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Two. The main one was Creator/HideoKojima's attempt to turn the much-ridiculed "magic hand" plotline into something remotely sensible, but a lesser one was a bone of contention from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'': it was believed by ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]''[='=]s non-direct mention of Meryl Silverburgh that Snake had cracked under Ocelot's torture, the "Otacon" ending was canon and Meryl was dead, which fans thought hugely out of character for Snake.[[note]]Although it should be noted that the in-game book ''In the Darkness of Shadow Moses: The Unofficial Truth'' mentioned that Meryl survived the events of Shadow Moses, and the two references to the book in the game itself implies that it was actually the Meryl ending that was canon, as well as the nod to the Infinity Bandana.[[/note]]
** Depending on one's opinions, there's a lot of story moments, but one stands out due to how it plays out: [[spoiler:Raiden stopping ''Outer Haven'' from crushing Snake at Shadow Moses, only for himself to be crushed and seemingly killed. Despite all the posturing of the cutscenes involved that would signify death for pretty much any other character in the franchise, he's back and only missing his arms and put in extreme care afterwards, and even returns to kick ass with brand new lightning powers for the final act.]] It's almost like [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal Raiden was supposed to die]], only for the writers to revise and save him from the brink]].
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Two. The main one was Creator/HideoKojima's attempt to turn the much-ridiculed "magic hand" plotline into something remotely sensible, but a lesser one was a bone of contention from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'': it was believed by ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]''[='=]s non-direct mention of Meryl Silverburgh that Snake had cracked under Ocelot's torture, the "Otacon" ending was canon and Meryl was dead, which fans thought hugely out of character for Snake.[[note]]Although it should be noted that the in-game book ''In the Darkness of Shadow Moses: The Unofficial Truth'' mentioned that Meryl survived the events of Shadow Moses, and the two references to the book in the game itself implies that it was actually the Meryl ending that was canon, as well as the nod to the Infinity Bandana.[[/note]]
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** Metal Gear REX defeating Metal Gear RAY. By all logic, REX shouldn't even be functional, having had its sensors destroyed, being been blown up, and being left exposed to arctic conditions for years. Yet it goes toe-to-toe with RAY, which was explicitly designed to destroy REX units. Not to mention the fact that Solid Snake had never piloted a Metal Gear before, while Liquid Ocelot had spent time in the VR and had been piloting a RAY for years. [[AwesomeBosses/MetalGear Few fans seem to mind this particular ass pull, though]].
** Depending on one's opinions, there'sa lot many moments of story moments, the story, but one stands out due to how it plays out: [[spoiler:Raiden stopping ''Outer Haven'' from crushing Snake at Shadow Moses, only for himself to be crushed and seemingly killed. Despite all the posturing of the cutscenes involved that would signify death for pretty much any other character in the franchise, he's back and only missing his arms and put in extreme care afterwards, and even returns to kick ass with brand new lightning powers for the final act.]] It's almost like [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal Raiden was supposed to die]], only for the writers to revise and save him from the brink]].
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Two. The main one was Creator/HideoKojima's attempt to turn the much-ridiculed "magic hand" plotline into something remotely sensible, but a lesser one was a bone of contention from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'': it was believed by ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]''[='=]snon-direct indirect mention of Meryl Silverburgh that Snake had cracked under Ocelot's torture, the "Otacon" ending was canon and Meryl was dead, which fans thought hugely out of character for Snake.[[note]]Although it should be noted that the in-game book ''In the Darkness of Shadow Moses: The Unofficial Truth'' mentioned that Meryl survived the events of Shadow Moses, and the two references to the book in the game itself implies that it was actually the Meryl ending that was canon, as well as the nod to the Infinity Bandana.[[/note]]
** Depending on one's opinions, there's
* AuthorsSavingThrow: Two. The main one was Creator/HideoKojima's attempt to turn the much-ridiculed "magic hand" plotline into something remotely sensible, but a lesser one was a bone of contention from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'': it was believed by ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Metal Gear Solid 2]]''[='=]s
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** The final battle with Ocelot. The entire fight is a nostalgic throwback to all three of the previous numbered Metal Gear games on top of Outer Haven. To the music of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 and finally 4, you and the hypnotized-himself-with-the-personality-of-Liquid-Snake lunatic duel with nothing else but good old fashioned martial arts. There's a wide variety of quick time events that are used throughout the fight, getting progressively deeper and deeper as the fight progresses until, finally, the two fighters fight like they're two battered, tired, withered old men slugging each other until one falls down before the other does. It's an amazing send-off and tribute to an intricately detailed series that's looked fondly upon to this day.
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** The final battle with Ocelot. The entire fight is a nostalgic throwback to all three of the previous numbered Metal Gear games entries on top of Outer Haven. To the music of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 and finally 4, you and the hypnotized-himself-with-the-personality-of-Liquid-Snake lunatic duel with nothing else but good old fashioned martial arts. There's a wide variety of quick time events that are used throughout the fight, getting progressively deeper and deeper as the fight progresses until, finally, the two fighters combatants fight like they're they are two battered, tired, withered old men slugging each other it out until one falls down before the other does. It's an amazing send-off and tribute to an intricately detailed series that's looked fondly upon to this day.
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** The story in general. Some fans find that it is a satisfying conclusion that pulled off a large share of TearJerker moments and did as well as it could have to wrap up the [[JigsawPuzzlePlot huge number of dangling plot threads]] from all the previous games into a GrandFinale that made sense, even if it had to strain at times. Others think it contradicts everything previous games told (most notably the ending of ''Metal Gear Solid 2''). The changes that bothered them are Snake's depressive personality even though he's already used to these situations ([[http://www.1up.com/news/anime-expo-david-hayter-critical David Hayter came to complain about some of his actions]]), Meryl's romance is considered an AssPull, Raiden going from a normal man happy with his life to a depressed badass cyborg, Sunny overshadowing Otacon and Naomi despite her young age, and several plot mysteries being [[HandWave explained away]] with [[MemeticMutation nanomachines]].
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** The story in general. Some fans find that it is a satisfying conclusion that pulled off a large share of TearJerker moments and did as well as it could have to wrap up the [[JigsawPuzzlePlot huge number of dangling plot threads]] from all the previous games into a GrandFinale that made sense, even if it had to strain at times. Others think it contradicts everything previous games told (most notably the ending of ''Metal Gear Solid 2''). The changes that bothered them are Snake's depressive personality even though he's already used to these situations ([[http://www.1up.com/news/anime-expo-david-hayter-critical David Hayter came to complain about some of his actions]]), Meryl's romance is considered an AssPull, Raiden going from a normal man happy with his life to a depressed badass cyborg, Sunny overshadowing Otacon and Naomi despite her young age, and several plot mysteries being [[HandWave explained away]] with [[MemeticMutation nanomachines]].nano-machines]].
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* GoddamnedBats: Scarabs. Imagine a tiny, three-armed robot (often holding a gun in one hand) capable of rolling around, hanging onto a wall to act like a security camera, and grabbing onto you to deliver an electric shock. Now imagine [[ZergRush dozens of these little bastards climbing all over you because you triggered an alert]]. For bonus irritation points, they're small enough that it's easy to not notice them the same way you'd notice a tall human, and you could wind up wandering right into their path. Chaff grenades, the one thing that can stun machines in this franchise, are also ''extremely'' rare in this game.
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** The ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' novelization features a lot of reference to religion, the Bible, Christianity, Jesus, and God at various points. Project Itoh certainly at least met them shortly after writing the book.
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** The ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' novelization features a lot of reference to religion, the Bible, Christianity, Jesus, and God at various points. Project Itoh certainly at least met them shortly after writing the book.
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* GoddamnedBats: Scarabs. Imagine a tiny, three-armed robot (often holding a gun in one hand) capable of rolling around, hanging onto a wall to act like a security camera, and grabbing onto you to deliver an electric shock. Now imagine [[ZergRush dozens of these little bastards climbing all over you because you triggered an alert]]. For bonus irritation points, they're small enough that it's easy to not to notice them the same way you'd notice a tall human, and you could wind up wandering right into their path. Chaff grenades, the one thing that can stun machines in this franchise, are also ''extremely'' rare in this game.
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** The ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' novelization features a lot of reference to religion, the Bible, Christianity, Jesus, and God at various points. Project Itoh certainly at least met them shortly after writing the book.
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* {{Squick}}: Johnny's mid-combat bowel movement. Yuck.
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* {{Squick}}: Johnny's mid-combat bowel movement. Yuck.
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** The final battle with Ocelot. The entire fight is a nostalgic throwback to all three of the previous numbered Metal Gear games on top of Outer Haven. To the music of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 and finally 4, you and the
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** The final battle with Ocelot. The entire fight is a nostalgic throwback to all three of the previous numbered Metal Gear games on top of Outer Haven. To the music of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 and finally 4, you and the hypnotized-himself-with-the-personality-of-Liquid-Snake lunatic duel with nothing else but good old fashioned martial arts. There's a wide variety of quick time events that are used throughout the fight, getting progressively deeper and deeper as the fight progresses until, finally, the two fighters fight like they're two battered, tired, withered old men slugging each other until one falls down before the other does. It's an amazing send-off and tribute to an intricately detailed series that's looked fondly upon to this day.
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** The final battle with Ocelot. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome That is all.]]
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** The final battle with Ocelot. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome That The entire fight is all.]]a nostalgic throwback to all three of the previous numbered Metal Gear games on top of Outer Haven. To the music of Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3 and finally 4, you and the
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* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler:Liquid never came back from the dead; Ocelot was using a combination of nanomachines and hypnotherapy to make himself think he was Liquid.]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: In the English version, Sunny's voice is provided by Creator/CristinaPucelli, who would later go on to voice Luan Loud in ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''. (Anyone coming into ''[=MGS4=]'' from the ''VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe'' series, on the other hand, might have already recognized her as the voice of the eponymous hero's main squeeze Silvia, making Pucelli's turn as Sunny also count as an example of RetroactiveRecognition for said players.)
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* RetroactiveRecognition: In the English version, Sunny's voice is provided by Creator/CristinaPucelli, who would later go on to voice Luan Loud in ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''. (Anyone coming into ''[=MGS4=]'' from the for fans of ''VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe'' series, on the other hand, might have were already recognized her familiar with as the voice of the eponymous hero's main squeeze Silvia, making Pucelli's turn as Sunny also count as an example of RetroactiveRecognition for said players.)and who would later go on to voice Luan Loud in ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''.
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** Thanks to the passing of Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka, who passed away in early 2015, [[spoiler:Big Boss]]'s final line is hit hard with this.
** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death,]] [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sad.
** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death,]] [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sad.
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** In 2014, the same year this game is set, [[http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527561/military-funds-brain-computer-interfaces-to-control-feelings/ DARPA began working on brain implants that can regulate emotions]].
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** In 2014, the same year this game is set, [[http://www.[[https://www.technologyreview.com/news/527561/military-funds-brain-computer-interfaces-to-control-feelings/ com/2014/05/29/172719/military-funds-brain-computer-interfaces-to-control-feelings/ DARPA began working on brain implants that can regulate emotions]].
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* {{Adorkable}}: In ''Metal Gear Solid 4'', Johnny is a pretty sweet and awkward guy off the battlefield. As a soldier, he emulates Meryl's lack of expertise from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid''. [[spoiler:At least, until the mask comes off...]]
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** The final battle with Ocelot. [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome That is all.]]
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