History YMMV / MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots

20th Feb '18 10:24:26 AM smasll_lordvoice
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** If you didn't gasp out loud when [[spoiler: Psycho Mantis]] returned to torment you one last time, you certainly did when [[spoiler: The Sorrow]] dropped in to save you.


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** Two for the price of one: [[spoiler: Psycho Mantis]] returns from the grave to torment you, and the equally dead [[spoiler: The Sorrow]] returns in the same scene to put him down once and for all.
25th Jan '18 5:44:53 AM PF
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* EightPointEight: Combined with CriticalDissonance. The game received spectacular scores; however, a number of reviewers mentioned they ''would'' have given ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' a perfect score if not for those [[StoryToGameplayRatio long cutscenes]]. Of course, for most fans who have grown emotionally attached to the characters and followed the storyline throughout the series, long {{cutscene}}s aren't necessarily a bad thing. In retrospect, the dissonance now works in reverse; the game has received considerable HypeBacklash in the years following its release and now has a sizable hatedom, in contrast with its positive critical impressions.

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* EightPointEight: Combined with CriticalDissonance. The game received spectacular scores; however, a number of reviewers mentioned they ''would'' have given ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' a perfect score if not for those the [[StoryToGameplayRatio long cutscenes]]. Of course, for most fans who have grown emotionally attached to the characters and followed the storyline throughout the series, long {{cutscene}}s aren't necessarily a bad thing. In retrospect, the dissonance now works in reverse; the game has received considerable HypeBacklash in the years following its release and now has a sizable hatedom, in contrast with its positive critical impressions.



** [[spoiler:When ''Outer Haven'' first rises from the ocean, we get a shot of "Mount Snakemore": a reproduction of Mount Rushmore built into Haven's hull, with the likenesses of Big Boss and his clones in place of Washington and company.]] It appears on-screen for all of three seconds, after which it is never seen or mentioned again.

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** [[spoiler:When ''Outer Haven'' first rises from the ocean, we get a shot of "Mount Snakemore": a reproduction of Mount Rushmore built into Haven's ''Haven''[='=]s hull, with the likenesses of Big Boss and his clones in place of Washington and company.]] It appears on-screen for all of three seconds, after which it is never seen or mentioned again.



** Having it turn out that Liquid's spirit was [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong, with Ocelot cutting off his arm and only pretending to still be possessed via nanomachines and hypnotherapy]]. Some fans consider it an AuthorsSavingThrow for one of the franchise's most ludicrous plot twists, while others think it cheapened the conflict between Snake and Liquid by [[spoiler: having him be exorcised offscreen and be forced to fight a cheap imitation throughout the game]].

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** Having it turn out that Liquid's spirit was [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong, [[spoiler:DeadAllAlong, with Ocelot cutting off his arm and only pretending to still be possessed via nanomachines and hypnotherapy]]. Some fans consider it an AuthorsSavingThrow for one of the franchise's most ludicrous plot twists, while others think it cheapened the conflict between Snake and Liquid by [[spoiler: having him be exorcised offscreen and be forced to fight a cheap imitation throughout the game]].
12th Jan '18 6:28:06 PM WaterBlap
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** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]], [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.

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** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]], [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.sad.
17th Nov '17 11:16:18 AM PF
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** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.

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** With Creator/HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]]. death]], [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.
17th Nov '17 11:12:34 AM PF
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** With HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.

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** With HiromiTsuru's Creator/HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.
17th Nov '17 7:32:38 AM HallowHawk
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** With HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death dying]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.

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** With HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death dying]].death]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.
17th Nov '17 7:31:50 AM HallowHawk
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** With HiromiTsuru's (Naomi's Japanese voice actress) [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-16/voice-actress-hiromi-tsuru-passes-away-at-57/.124141 death dying]]. [[spoiler:Naomi]] dying in the game makes it more sadder.
6th Nov '17 2:49:19 PM PF
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** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fanart]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release.''

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** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fanart]] fan art]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release.'' release''.
6th Nov '17 2:47:44 PM PF
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** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'' - namely, that he's attracted to her - become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Corps; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armour, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that Foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:

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** Snake's comments about Samus Aran in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'' - namely, that he's attracted to her - become this upon the introduction of the Beauty and Beast Corps; Unit; an entire group of women who wear "sneaking suits" and big power armour, armor, just like Samus does. Not only could he not tell that they were women at first (unlike with Samus), but he seems mildly repelled by them. Guess they're not "your kind of woman" after all, eh Snake? He also has a line, while discussing Meta Knight with Mei Ling, that Foreshadows foreshadows the infamous "Mt. Snakemore", and the fact that the writers were making fun of it well before any fans did is absolutely amazing:
24th Oct '17 6:05:40 PM CrowTR0bot
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** [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/MGS4-Johnny-Hotty-88096127 This bit of fanart]] not only ''correctly guessed'' what Johnny looked like under his balaclava, but even predicted his romance sub-plot with Meryl ''several months ahead of the game's release.''
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