History YMMV / LilyOrchard

* ShePannedItNowSheSucks:
** ''The Top Ten Worst Songs in MLP" has the highest dislike ratio and dissenting comments of any video Lily has ever made.
** Lily got some flack for not liking [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E9SliceOfLife the 100th episode]] because she felt the fan pandering was too much and that it was in her own words "Hasbro sucking off the fanbase". This was clarified with the phrase "Nobody in their right mind doesn't like being sucked off."
** Lily lambasted ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' in both In A Minute and its own Glass of Water episode, both for its pendulum attitude to Luna's character development as well as its implicit attitude towards self-harm and suicide, going on to criticize how the series has handled its coddling of mental illnesses and perpetuating the idea that professional intervention is unnecessary and that warm words are all somebody needs. She later refused to put it on her worst episodes list for Season 5, stating that it wasn't an episode and rather "failure taken physical form." She instead gave the episode the "[[ShoutOut Lifetime Achievement Award]] for [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Total Disgust]]" stating that "filling the air time with those colored 'off air' bars would have been less of a mistake."
** ''Crusaders of the Lost Mark'' was heavily criticized by Lily for supposedly doing nothing with its story, being a retread of ''Magical Mystery Cure'', and naming it the (official) worst episode of Season Five, while the episode has gained almost universal praise from the rest of the Brony Analysis community.
** Surprisingly averted with her opinions on the songs from ''The Mane Attraction'', finding ''The Spectacle'' to be a hilarious parody poking fun at modern pop music (particularly cracking up at the autotune being lasered into Countess Coloratura's voice), ''Equestria, The Land I Love'' to be "bland but not shit" and ''The Magic Inside'' (a song nominated for an Emmy that is adored by practically the entire fandom) to be another terrible addition to the list of "be true to yourself" songs. Amazingly though, hardly anyone lost their minds over this, the expected reaction being parodied by this comment:
---> "Oh, no, someone disagrees with me. I must rant about it. '''Insert angry narrow-minded rant here which sounds like I'm saying something important but I'm not'''"
*** Lily's response is even better:
--->"'''Insert smug and dismissive rebuttal'''"

** [[http://lily-peet.tumblr.com/post/132972212940/this-is-a-very-easy-no-because-the-button-is This Tumblr post.]]

* AcceptableTargets
** Republicans and conservatives are the most common Acceptable Targets in her work.
** "Anti-Feminsts" and "Anti-[=SJWs=]" are frequently targeted on Glass of Water, especially in politically charged episodes or episodes centering around critical theory.
** Centrists and self-proclaimed "moderates", ever since ''Violence is Golden'' and ''Ends Over Easy.''
** Creator/JoshScorcher and Creator/InkRose. This has become [[BrokenBase quite controversial]].

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: While Lily's line "Fuck you, Cishet scum!" in the ''Over A Barrel'' review was something of a funny jab at Tumblr, the line is put into a very different light once she came out as transgender.

* BrokenBase:
** Is Lily's pompous attitude endearing and silly, or one of the most insufferable personas in the Analysis community?
** Is Lily's comment moderation for her videos born out of a desire to seal herself in a bubble and not allow anyone else to argue against her or an understanding of the atmosphere that Youtube comments typically suffer from?
** Lily has said on multiple occasions that ''Glass of Water'' is meant to be a played up ego, similar to WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}}. However, Glass of Water often lacks the absurdity of its inspiration, and repeatedly falls flat of its goal of being humorous self-aggrandizement. According to many detractors, Glass of Water is often so humorless that any claim of comedic exaggeration is a weak one at best.
** The drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher has the base split between those who believe Lily is a self-righteous [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] abuser who constantly [[NeverMyFault attempts to pass off the blame for her actions on others and claims she's the real victim]], and those who believe that, while her more controversial acts are undeniable, she's taking [[MisBlamed too much heat for what's been going on]].
*** This base was broken even further as a result of both their behavior during the 2016 Presidential election, with Lily becoming even more hostile to conservatism as a whole.

* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-u5fNj1d4 Date Night - Town of Salem]], Lizzy talks about how being bullied made her think that she's always the one ignored or overlooked, until [[http://smartblondessarcasm.deviantart.com/art/Human-Lily-Peet-Puppet-537284243 her fanart]] [[Main/AscendedFanboy got her noticed by Lily and let to them becoming friends.]] [[Main/ManlyTears Lily totally]] [[Main/BlatantLies doesn't cry here.]]
** [[http://lily-peet.tumblr.com/post/132972212940/this-is-a-very-easy-no-because-the-button-is This Tumblr post.]]

* LoveItOrHateIt: You either love Lily for her blunt attitude and uncompromising nature for how she sticks it to her detractors, or you absolutely hate her for the exact same reason because it seems like [[TautologicalTemplar she's convinced she's right and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong]]. Particularly bad when she's running on the BiasSteamroller or blasting her personal AcceptableTargets, and ''especially'' bad given the drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher.

** ''Silly Filly Studios'', who she frequently targets because she feels they don't try with their animated stories, specifically WebAnimation/FallOfTheCrystalEmpire and by a smaller degree {{WebAnimation/Snowdrop}}.
** People who criticize feminists or use the term "Social Justice Warriors" to describe the more extremist ones. Lily claims she has yet to see anyone acting like this stereotype.
** Creator/JoshScorcher. This has become [[BrokenBase quite controversial]].

** ''Glass of Water - Self Destruction'' is a 10-minute tirade at the way ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' and many communities on the Internet coddle people who are battling with self-harm and doing nothing proactive to help them.

** Lily has said on multiple occasions that ''Glass of Water'' is meant to be a played up ego, similar to WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}}. However, Glass of Water often lacks the absurdity of its inspiration, and repeatedly falls flat of its goal of being humorous self-aggrandizement.

* LoveItOrHateIt: You either love Lily for her blunt attitude and uncompromising nature for how she sticks it to her detractors, or you absolutely hate her for the exact same reason because it seems like [[TautologicalTemplar she's convinced she's right and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong]]. Particularly bad when she's running on the BiasSteamroller or blasting her personal AcceptableTargets, and ''especially'' bad given her recent drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher.

** Lily lambasted ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' in both In A Minute and its own Glass of Water episode, both for its pendulum attitude to Luna's character development as well as its implicit attitude towards self-harm and suicide, going on to criticize how the series has handled its coddling of mental illnesses and perpetuating the idea that professional intervention is unnecessary and that warm words are all somebody needs.
*** Lily later refused to put it on her worst episodes list for Season 5, stating that it wasn't an episode and rather "failure taken physical form." She instead gave the episode the "[[ShoutOut Lifetime Achievement Award]] for [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Total Disgust]]" stating that "filling the air time with those colored 'off air' bars would have been less of a mistake."

*** This base was broken even further as a result of both their behavior during the 2016 Presidential election, with Lily becoming even more hostile to conservatism as a whole and Josh openly laughing at people who were scared of a Drumpf presidency.

** "Anti-Feminsts" and "Anti-SJWs" are frequently targeted on Glass of Water, especially in politically charged episodes or episodes centering around critical theory.

** Lily has said on multiple occasions that ''Glass of Water'' is meant to be a played up ego, similar to WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}}. However, Glass of Water often lacks the absurdity of its inspiration, and repeatedly falls flat of its goal of being humorous self-aggrandizement. According to many detractors, Glass of Water is often so humorless that any claim of comedic overexageration is a weak one at best.

*** This base was broken even further as a result of both their behavior during the 2016 Presidential election, with Lily becoming even more hostile to conservatism as a whole and Josh openly laughing at people who were scared of a Trump presidency.

** ''Silly Filly Studios'', who she frequently targets because she feels they don't try with their animated stories, specifically WebAnimation/FallOfTheCrystalEmpire and by a smaller degree {{WebAnimation/Snowdrop}}.
** People who criticize feminists or use the term "Social Justice Warriors" to describe the more extremist ones. Lily claims she has yet to see anyone acting like this stereotype.
** Creator/JoshScorcher. This has become [[BrokenBase quite controversial]].

** Lily's comic series ''The Release'' drops a very heavy (and silly) anvil about gender identity.
** ''Glass of Water - Self Destruction'' is a 10-minute tirade at the way ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' and many communities on the Internet coddle people who are battling with self-harm and doing nothing proactive to help them.

** Is Lily's pompous attitude endearing and silly, or one of the most insufferable personas in the Analysis community?

** Lily has said on multiple occasions that ''Glass of Water'' is meant to be a played up ego, similar to WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}}. However, Glass of Water often lacks the absurdity of its inspiration, and repeatedly falls flat of its goal of being humorous self-aggrandizement.
** The drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher has the base split between those who believe Lily is a self-righteous [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] abuser who constantly [[NeverMyFault attempts to pass off the blame for her actions on others and claims she's the real victim]], and those who believe that, while her more controversial acts are undeniable, she's taking [[MisBlamed too much heat for what's been going on]].

** Lily's silent Pony OC slowly became increasingly tired and frustrated with Commander Firebrand in her appearances in Taking Too Seriously. Then comes the news that their real life friendship is over for much the same reason. Heck, pretty much everything involving her and Josh is this now.
* LoveItOrHateIt: You either love Lily for her blunt attitude and uncompromising nature for how she sticks it to her detractors, or you absolutely hate her for the exact same reason because it seems like [[TautologicalTemplar she's convinced she's right and everyone who has a different opinion is wrong]]. Particularly bad when she's running on the BiasSteamroller or blasting her personal AcceptableTargets, and ''especially'' bad given her recent drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher.
* OvershadowedByControversy: While she definitely had her fanbase beforehand, lately most people have primarily heard of her due to the falling out between her and Creator/JoshScorcher, and that's almost all people know her for now if they weren't watching her before it all went down.

** ZigZagged. While her videos became more cohesive and streamlined, they've also arguably [[BrokenBase broken the base even more.]]
** The literal Straw Man puppet's replacement with Billy is this, as using a Straw Man is generally seen on the internet as a good way to make the point you're making look bad.

** ''The Top Ten Worst Songs in MLP" has the highest dislike ratio and dissenting comments of any video Lily has ever made.

** Lily lambasted ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' in both In A Minute and its own Glass of Water episode, both for its pendulum attitude to Luna's character development as well as its implicit attitude towards self-harm and suicide, going on to criticize how the series has handled its coddling of mental illnesses and perpetuating the idea that professional intervention is unnecessary and that warm words are all somebody needs.
*** Lily later refused to put it on her worst episodes list for Season 5, stating that it wasn't an episode and rather "failure taken physical form." She instead gave the episode the "[[ShoutOut Lifetime Achievement Award]] for [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Total Disgust]]" stating that "filling the air time with those colored 'off air' bars would have been less of a mistake."

** Recently, Creator/JoshScorcher. This has become [[BrokenBase quite controversial]].

*** Lily later refused to put it on her worst episodes list for Season 5, stating that it wasn't an episode and rather "failure taken physical form." She instead gave the episode the "[[ShoutOut Lifetime Achievement Award]] for [[WebVideo/ZeroPunctuation Total Disgust]]" stating that "filling the air time with those colored 'off air' bars would have been less of a mistake."

** The drama with her former friend Creator/JoshScorcher has the base split between those who believe Lily is a self-righteous [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]] abuser who constantly [[NeverMyFault attempts to pass off the blame for her actions on others and that she's the real victim]], and those who believe that, while her more controversial acts are undeniable, she's taking [[MisBlamed too much heat for what's been going on]].

** Recently, Creator/JoshScorcher

* JerkassHasAPoint: One can make an argument for a lot of her points, but her recent issues with Josh Scorcher could definately ring of this. In particular, yes, Josh Scorcher is not a Marine, but a member of a Marine Band and thus isn't really military, and unlike a military doctor or engineer not one who actively contributes to warfare activities beyond moral support.
** However, that's easily debunked by how, Josh actually has gone into detail in the past about how military musicians are pretty high up in terms of importance with regards to the military, as they not only keep public morale up of course, but are also in charge of representing the military during public events such as parades. Just because he's never shot anyone doesn't make him any less of a Marine (especially since he's inevitably gotten combat and firearm training to an extent, and probably could do so if the situation called for it). Plus, with the exception of the U.S. Coast Guard Pipe Band, military bands reconfigure into combat units during wartime during which they have non-musical responsibilities, including guarding prisoners of war and defending command centers.

* JerkassHasAPoint: One can make an argument for a lot of her points, but her recent issues with Josh Scorcher could definately ring of this. In particular, yes, Josh Scorcher is not a Marine, but a member of a Marine Band and thus isn't really military.
** However, that's easily countered by the fact that, the likes of doctors and engineers are military, and remain considered as actual military personnel, without being on the front lines. So the question then becomes, why can't a musician be held to the same standards as any other positions in the military? Josh went through an actual boot camp and even rose in rank during his service (he ended his service as a Corporal, if I recall correctly). Just because someone isn't on the front lines doesn't mean they can be written off as "not military".

** However, that's easily countered by the fact that, the likes of doctors and engineers can be in the military, and are considered as actual military personnel, without being on the front lines. So the question then becomes, why can't a musician be held to the same standards as any other positions in the military? Josh went through an actual boot camp and even rose in rank during his service (he ended his service as a Corporal, if I recall correctly). Just because someone isn't on the front lines doesn't mean they can be written off as "not military".

* JerkassHasAPoint: One can make an argument for a lot of her points, but her recent issues with Josh Scorcher can definately ring of this. In particular, yes, Josh Scorcher is not a Marine, but a member of a Marine Band and thus isn't really military.
** However, that's easily countered by the fact that, the likes of doctors and engineers can be in the military without being on the front lines. So the question then becomes, why can't a musician be held to the same standards as other positions in the military? Josh went through an actual boot camp and even rose in rank during his service (he ended his service as a Corporal, if I recall correctly). Just because someone isn't on the front lines doesn't mean they can be written off as "not military".